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Stop crying about double standards
I'm sure almost everyone here knows about the wake up bug that's live right now.
I'm also sure a lot of people here know about the Mending bug that used to exist.
I've heard a lot of people cry "double standard" when people say that people using wake up shouldn't be banned.
However to those people. I would like to remind you that there were a LOT of people who were arguing against the Legion bug being banable too. You would expect those people to say the same thing again with this new bug too, meaning people like those are exactly what we would predict would happen in a world with no double standards.
Additionally, people that weren't there for the Mending Bug are likely to come to the same conclusion a lot of people did back then on their own now. Specifically that using an addon (or perk in this case) for it's intended purpose shouldn't be banable even if it is stronger than it's supposed to be.
The only way that it would be double standard is if it is the same specific person that said the Mending Bug should be banable that is now saying Wake up shouldn't be.
And let me point something else out. Even if no one actually realized the bugs existed, you would still expect the usage of a bugged perk like Wake up to go up. For example imagine you just got the perk for the first time (or at least the first time since the EGC). Here is what might happen:
1: You already have an idea of how hard the game usually is
2: You run wake up for a few games. Those games go much better than normal because of the bug
3: Since you don't actually know about the bug you assume that the perk's effect was just better than it seemed at first.
4: Because you are getting such good results with the perk. You keep running it.
And thus someone who know's nothing about the bug ends up looking a lot like an exploiter for completely innocent reasons.
Heck, you would even be more likely to try it now compared to before since if you see that a lot of other survivors are running it you might wonder why and decide to run it yourself in order to find out.
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I agree some are taking it overboard but you have to admit though the legion bug was near immediately taken action on, this has been on the forums for about a week (if not more) now and the devs still haven't made in game changes/news etc or even just locking the perk until the hotfix.
I argued against the legion ban saying they should put up warnings in game and they actually did do that within days. This is just too slow of a response and people are just showing how they are angry in a different way this time. It's beyond not knowing about it at this point, partially because word has already spread and the devs have not come forward formally.
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Sure but that's on the devs. There are people crying double standard at fellow forum users.
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I agree, that the double standards debait is annoying, but it should be said since it seems the devs are actually considering not punishing people for abusing the perk. Even people new too the game who don't have quentin can at least play a few games, realise that the perk, on paper, is pointless since exit gates take 15-20 seconds max too complete, and know its pointless and don't run it. And even if they did, their is no excuse for purple and red ranked survivors too be using it other then too exploit. They know what they are doing and should be punished.
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Trash perk suddenly is meta and everyone using it, claims his innocence.
Yeah, no one would touch this perk with a stick, if it wasn't for the bug.
Exploiters should be banned.
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@GrootDude ist shouldn't be a problem to sort people out, that used the perk the 2 weeks before the patch came out.
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And also remember that when the Legion bug happened the Legion in general was already right in the middle of a spicy controversy over their own existance and design, it makes sense it was acted on quickly from a pure PR perspective.
People shouldn't use Wake Up! while bugged, I wish they could just disable the perk until it's fixed, but I guess it's not that easy.
A lot of the people crying about double standards have massive unwarranted victim complexes in general anyway.
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Bad players wouldn't start by Quentin and wouldn't have unlocked Wake Up. Everyone using that perk who didn't in the past should be banned. That's it.
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I expressed my position in both the Legion's add-ons and the Quentin's perk cases. Each player, who has legitimately unlocked a game resource (character, perk, item, add-on or offering), is free to use it at will, even if it is an unusual or irrational choice, because everyone plays as they wish. Furthermore, there is no obligation for players to attend the forum or to consult the trend topics, or to inquire about the problems of the game: such as patch notes and new cosmetics are announced in-game, on a screen impossible to not see, so bugs, and related prohibitions, should also be blatantly announced. Once this is done, offenders can be punished under the Terms of Service as exploiters. It is a criterion of justice and reasonableness that I apply to killers and survivors, indeed to this and every other videogame.
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It's your choice to use them.
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Imho nobody should be banned for exploiting or abusing bugs, killer or surv side.
If that is so damaging, just fix the bug quickly.
If they don't do it, mut not be important enough to deserve a ban.
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The vast majority of dbd players are casuals who don't even know the term "exploit". Some of them may have bought Quentin and play him with his own perks.
According to some forum users these people should get banned after spending their money buying game content simply because they abused something unknowingly.
Not everyone spends his life checking bugs and exploits in a game. Normal people spend the vast majority of their day working and you expect these people to come home and inform themselves about any bug in any game before playing said game?
No, that's not how it works. The developer of a game is responsible for game content and has to make sure it can't be abused by either hotfixing bugs/exploits or by locking content that may be bugged.
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