ADEPT KILLER AND ADEPT SURVI

BaroneMaximus
BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 474
edited June 2019 in Feedback and Suggestions

Hi, i'm new to this forum and this is my first discussion, but i'm not new to dead by daylight nor to videogames (I'm 26 and i play ANY kind of videogame since i was 5)

My discussion will now talk about a little part of the game in which i'm involved, and as me i think many others, as the title says the adept achievements.

In general, i think that the game wants more from killer players then how much it wants from survi players, This is noted from many things. An example could be the pip system, where you can see how easy it is to pip as survi, instead as a killer, there is way way more difficulty to even black pip. Another example, as this case wants, is the adept achievements.

The adept achievement for any survivor says "Escape with (Survivor in question)" that doesnt require any pip to be done either any skill in general to be done. Instead the adept for killers is way more difficult to be done. You need to double pip to get the adept using just the 3 basic perks, that always means saying no to anti-loop perks or anti-gen rush perks or anything that at the moment is needed to be a viable double pip killer. And since A LOT of killers are just Mouse one perk/addon depending killers, this is NEVER possible, but when you find a 4 non premade players who have no idea on what they are doing. (And this is for my case is impossible since i'm purple/red rank)

My point in this discussion is: Show some more love for killers in general, because killers in good mood are not killers who are forced to play the same perks, same 2/3 viable in meta killers just to have 5/10 minutes games, 2/3 chases max to black pip AT MAX cause of gen rushed anyway. Killers in bad mood are killers who tunnel the first survivor they see, they hook him and they camp him and i know that because i've been there too. And this is the majority of cases.

Said that, i wanted to give advices on how to balance both adepts survivor and killer:

Killer: use the 3 basic character perks and 1 pip OR use the 3 basic character perks AND ONE OF YOUR CHOICE and 2 pip (Even if i pref the first one, way less stressful, way funnier and possible)

Survi: use the 3 basic character perks and 1 pip OR use the 3 basic character perks AND ONE OF YOUR CHOICE and 2 pip (Same as before)

With this, in my opinion, you will open the very minds of dbd players on another reality: It's not important to kill ppl or to survive, the important is to have fun and do your part.


Thanks to whoever will read this and will reply, i'll be happy to have comparisons of any kind!

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Comments

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    That was a thing. It was to kill/dc 4 survivors. I still have no idea why they changed that to 2 pips only.

  • BaroneMaximus
    BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 474

    Because they were afraid of games where killers were camping only, so they made that you actually have to "deserve it", but with this pippin system and with this meta this makes COMPLETELY no sense

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    @BaroneMaximus wouldn't making it a 1 pip then reasonable enough? You cannot camp with the new system (unless you give them the unhooks) and gethigh enough emblem points

  • BaroneMaximus
    BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 474

    But sadly, this change was pre pip fix...

  • Huntar
    Huntar Member Posts: 848

    And even if they're camping for the achievement, that's just a single game where that's an issue. Right now, they're forcing people to go hard 24/7, and I don't know about anyone else, but someone going full sweat when you're just trying to do a normal game, survivor or killer, kinda ruins the experience.

  • BaroneMaximus
    BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 474

    I'm still struggling in this stupid adept killer... I Always 3 hook everyone and the last one goes for the hatch! Plus i JUST make iridescent gatekeeper cause i have no defensive gen perks and it all depends on me to be regressed... This is so stupid, and i wonder why they didnt yet figure this out! Pip killer system is incredibly bad atm and queues too!

  • BaroneMaximus
    BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 474

    I finally got it! But it was sooooo freaking long and difficult :\

  • rha
    rha Member Posts: 418

    For as long as I remember, the adept achievements/trophies always said "achieve a merciless victory", not "kill all four survivors". They kind of fixed it to match what the achievement actually says you're supposed to do. Before the change it was probably still judged by the old "victory cube" conditions of a "merciless victory".

  • BaroneMaximus
    BaroneMaximus Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2019

    the problem now is the pip system :( once it was easy to 2 pip, but now it doesnt anymore.. Plus i'm red rank, and 2 pipping is generally difficult with normal perks! :D