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Why would people play survivor in this game ?

jeyers
jeyers Member Posts: 275

When as killer:

You get more fun perks.

You dont have to rely on 3 others.

You have devs attention when it comes to balance.

You get more blood points as killer, so your time spent in this game is more efficient.

You get more good perks.

I see little to no reason to play survivor unless its in a SWF in the state of the game right now.

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  • malloymk
    malloymk Member Posts: 1,555

    I play as survivor with my friends because it's easier to chit char and play survivor than to have them in my party talking while I'm trying to kill.

    Solo survivor is pretty boring most times.

    Killer is not fun to me really either, but those bloodpoints are hard to pass up on. And at least there is variety.

  • Blue_Diamond
    Blue_Diamond Member Posts: 122

    Oof that was a pretty subtle jab at killer queue times

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Because it's more relaxing than playing killer and I can do it with my friends. I also get BP more consistently, and even if I have a ######### trial, it's still fun to spectate my friends while chatting with them.

  • jeyers
    jeyers Member Posts: 275

    You're the only on here not contributing to the discussion so take your own advice.

    I would like to hear what the community thinks about playing survivor and im sure others do too.

  • HazeHound
    HazeHound Member Posts: 814

    Playing as survivor is chill and relaxing while its the killer side constantly under pressure and game is still balanced in favour of survivors (which is not that bad, we need more survivors than killers).

    I play killer when i can afford focusing on game.

    I play survivor while watching/eating/drinking something. Which is most of the time due to my work schedule and constantly beeing tired kek.

  • twistedmonkey
    twistedmonkey Member Posts: 4,296

    I have a feeling you are going for the record on most downvotes in a set time period or more than anyone has ever managed to achieve as yet with posts like this.

  • LCGaster
    LCGaster Member Posts: 3,154

    I like playing survivor, and I am almost a killer main, I like killer for the challenge and survivor because it's much more chill to play

    I went from toxic survivor main (Not proud of those times) to killer main and now I play both sides but mostly killers

    I played long enough to not care about BP too much and usually I don't care if the other survivors are bad, I get pissed off only when they make mistakes that get me killed

    There are still a ton of good and fun perks on the survivor side for any playstyle

    "You have devs attention when it comes to balance" About ######### time

  • ArecBalrin
    ArecBalrin Member Posts: 636

    The only feature which killers have expressly and notably requested, which has made it into the game, is the hatch-closing mechanic.

    It was however only implemented alongside the introduction of EGC, which completely defeats the purpose killers wanted hatch-closing for. Brilliant.

    But sure, say that killers are listened to by the devs.

  • jeyers
    jeyers Member Posts: 275

    Mettle of Man - from a dlc costing money = destroyed perk now.

    But from what i read ppl say only play surv if u can SWF wich makes sens ofc.

    And i havent seen those pics showing the bp gain is about the same so please contribute and link them.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Save The Best For Last, the Nightmare, the Legion, the Plague, Unrelenting, Brutal Strength, Iron Grasp, Deep Wound, the Pig, Insidious, Shadowborn, Remember Me, Spies From The Shadows.

    Sorry, I was just listing some stuff that was nerfed to #########.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    Survivor is more fun.

  • JESUS_CHRIST
    JESUS_CHRIST Member Posts: 313

    if killer was completely devoid of that feeling the game would be in a lot of trouble considering how many times you have to down everybody to win

  • weirdkid5
    weirdkid5 Member Posts: 2,144

    Solo survivor is the only way I play this game lol

  • Boosted_Dwight
    Boosted_Dwight Member Posts: 3,059

    I have fun with survivor because of their perks. Quick and Quiet and Head on are really fun. Sabo builds are fun as well :P

  • Tzeentchling9
    Tzeentchling9 Member Posts: 1,796

    Don't you ever get tired of bait posting?

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    2 out of 5 are facts, with 1 of them being debatable.

  • Talmeer
    Talmeer Member Posts: 1,520

    Sadly we become the wrong kind of attention :|.

    But with the mom nerf you survivors got finaly a idea what it means to get "attention"^^.

    That's at least somehow fair.

    But btt. I have play survivor when I needed a chill round after playing killer. But thanks to the attention we killers got with the Legion patch, I have stopped playing since then.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    On one i survived, on the other one i got caught by Myers insta mori.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    Obvious bait is obvious, please stop.

    Just looking at patch history proves that you couldn't be more wrong with almost all your points.

  • jeyers
    jeyers Member Posts: 275

    I sort of understand what u trying to say but no.

    You made 20k that one game and 2 others made less then 7k combined. Kinda shows how survivor points are not the same rate gained as killers get.

    Same as pic nr.2, 3 other survivors got way less then killer for the match they played.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    Well, if people fail to interact with the killer, and do nothing but gens.

    You missed the point of the Myers game. He has a addon that lets him mori a survivor. No hook required.

    You'll find this in one of 100+ matches

  • jeyers
    jeyers Member Posts: 275

    Not everyone can get time with the killer as there is a limited amount of pallets on each map so at least 2 survivor per game will not gain the points you had there.

  • DoubleTap
    DoubleTap Member Posts: 218

    @altruistic Well yeah, this entire forum is just one giant Killer echo chamber.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    Some from both sides demand and others discuss. Don’t act like one side is the only one with people demanding things.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Statistics are not invalidated by single data points.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @Orion you’ve been on this forum long enough to see both sides demand things, in fact you yourself have demanded things like bringing DS back down to three seconds.

  • jeyers
    jeyers Member Posts: 275

    Well that is the mentality in wich we in the dbd community has to do and deal with.

    You can look at the killer mains in this thread alone calling me names when i point out the obvious flaws and unbalanced meta that favor 1 side. Ofc that side will "downvote" who talks about brining some balance and fun for everyone to enjoy the meta.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Yes, I have demanded that once a reason for a change is gone, the change itself should also be gone, because if something is buffed due to a counter being too strong, and then the counter is removed while the thing remains the same, then that thing is too strong now.

    Killer demands usually have some reasoning behind them, balance being chief among them. Survivor demands usually just involve whatever the survivor lost to in the last 30 seconds.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110
  • jeyers
    jeyers Member Posts: 275

    Then why do killers still have NOED ? hmmmm ;)

    Devs can destroy MoM so survivor cant have "easy" escape.

    But not NOED so killers can keep easy down. Well that is just one of many reasons for devs to favor one side more.

    The longer queue times i think is because ppl dont wana play surv anymore. why is that?

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Break the totems. NOED has a clear and easy counter.

    As for the queue times, you know why they're long. It's been explained to you a million times. So I'm left to wonder why you're pretending not to know.

  • Knuckles
    Knuckles Member Posts: 218
    edited July 2019

    I play solo survivor almost every time. Yeah, you can get stuck with potatoes and have a bad match but when you get a good crew it can be very fun. I try to play killer too but usually during a 2x BP event, as yes killers do tend to rack up more points than survivors sometimes.

  • ArecBalrin
    ArecBalrin Member Posts: 636

    I criticise other killer-mains. I tell them "don't become like survivor-mains". The two sides are not the same; the Patrician is not like the Pleb just because they're both Romans.

    Kilers always request a PTB for any new feature. Survivors know they don't need to; the toys they get never come with a sting-in-the-tail.

    As your exchange with Orion shows; killers don't just demand stuff because they want things to go their own way, but because there should be some consistency and underlying principle to how decisions are made. Survivors are repulsed by discussion along those lines though, hence why both here and the Steam forum are 'killer echo-chambers'. Survivors exclude themselves because they can't be reasonable.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    Slugging is a counter. You’ve said before that you’re a survivor main so by your logic your demands have no reasoning.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @jeyers Cleanse totems

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Let me make this as simple as I can.

    Devs: Decisive Strike's stun was perfect without Enduring, but too short with Enduring, so we've increased it to 5 seconds.

    Devs: Enduring no longer affects Decisive Strike.

    Devs: Decisive Strike's stun at 5 seconds is perfect.

    Me: If it was perfect at 3 seconds, it can't be perfect at 5 seconds. Now that Enduring no longer affects it, it should go back to 3 seconds.

    As for what you pretended my logic is, you'll note I used the word "usually". Twice, in fact. And I already told you that statistics are not invalidated by single data points. The fact that someone inevitably wins the lottery doesn't mean it's a sure thing.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    Me and plenty of other survivor mains on this forum are willing to discuss.

  • ArecBalrin
    ArecBalrin Member Posts: 636

    With a vast gulf in what standards are regarded as adequate. Survivor-memes exist for a reason, they are all derived from direct-quotes of things survivors have unironically said and there are no killer-equivalents, though survivors really try with nonsense like 'why do killers just want 4k?'.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    A lot of people say that DS is say is balanced. Just because you think someone is an X main doesn’t make it true, kinda like when people call you a nurse main .

  • jeyers
    jeyers Member Posts: 275

    We don't know for sure. Are u a dev with information on their queue numbers ?

    I read suggestions from users here sure, but we dont know the true numbers game.

    Later this week if queue are still bad we can say i was right tho as no more double bp.