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impossible to play swf on ps4 because the killer dodge

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  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    my region includes a large part of Europe and beyond, sometimes I also found Arab Killers. But what does vocal tricks mean, then if one plays with a friend in multiplayer he cannot use the party or discord because this is immoral? but where is it written? but do you read yourself when you write this crap? obviously I refer not to DBD but to all games. (sorry for the term I used)


    And I repeat, little man, I play also as a killer and even if the game is unbalanced I don't go out of the lobby every time, also because 90% are all premade by 3 or by 4

  • Jesya
    Jesya Member Posts: 1,101
    edited July 2019

    You're saying the game will loose players because you can't be forced to not play with your friends. On the same line of thought.. you can't force killers to play with you when the odds are already stacked against them. They want to have fun too. And more likely than not (from my own experience) these SWF groups are cheesing so the lowest ranked player is squad lead to F over the killer even more. Because they don't have it easy enough.

    So it's up to BHVR to do something so killers don't have soul crushing games versus these groups and would be more willing to play them.

  • DrDeepwound
    DrDeepwound Member Posts: 2,557

    Little man?

    Personal insults are uncalled for. I didnt say anything about Discord you are rambling on complaining about things I didnt even mention. Enjoy your long lobbies.

  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    Not being able to play with friends is a problem. For me, simply the killers want to find people who don't have the hands to win easy. If they make the game more balanced, I will be the first to be happy, but as long as that day arrives, if you can't play swf, part of the game dies for me. Then you talk about toxic survivors, but do you know that toxic people are present in any other game, and especially in real life? So I don't think that only dbd Survival are toxic, so this excuse for not playing against swf for isn't right. I talked the other day with a Swede or Norwegian I don't remember, who had the same problem as me, I don't think it's just a problem in my region. However it is obvious that I cannot force killer swf players to play, so if you can't play with friends you are limited, because you can't find games to play, if you play alone you will be twice as long to find a game and play with people who cannot play regardless of rank. (you must also be lucky to find mixed people like you, if you find a swf of 3 the killer leaves the game). tell me how to do it, wait 4 minutes in the lobby to play alone and play with people who can't play, wait 4 minutes in swf to get ######### during the lobby.

  • Jdsgames
    Jdsgames Member Posts: 1,109

    Maybe if the game was balanced around swf and not scattered rank 20's we wouldn't see as much lobby dodging. Idk seems like the easy wins and coms that swf gives you is unfun for the killer to play against game after game. Idk what are your thoughts?

  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    But in fact I wasn't responding to you but that other subject with a picture of the spirit. It is however for me it was not even an insult, trust me I do not insult for a game.

  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    For me it's not fair regardless of whether a game with 2 or 3 friends (swf) has to wait 3 or more minutes in the lobby to then be dodged. the problem is not that he cannot find the matches, 3 minutes of waiting are also accepted, but if every game he finds cannot be played because the killer leaves the lobby is not right, because in this particular region the killer finds it immediately. So I would like to limit this by putting a cooldown for the killers when they are looking for the game of 2 maximum 3 minutes, because strangely in the afternoon that the killer does not immediately find the game does not come out, even if it is swf.


    This reasoning has nothing to do with the question of unbalanced gambling etc ... It is unacceptable for those who play with friends, then you know how many times I have played with people without speaking? without the party? as if we were mixed people, and many times we win the same.

  • Condorloco_26
    Condorloco_26 Member Posts: 1,714


    I don't know why are you talking about "mixed games" or anything.

    I'm just saying, play killer in order to be able to play matches at all.


    If you want to have instant games with your friends, have you tried the option

    KILL YOUR FRIENDS???

    Insta-game guaranteed, no waiting

  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    Sure, but does this seem like a solution? So can't swf play until they balance the game? But are we really sure that the killers, if one day the developers will fix the game, the killers would no longer dodge the lobbies? or do it regardless why they want a free win? (in my opinion these do not win even with people who are not swf)

  • Jdsgames
    Jdsgames Member Posts: 1,109
    edited July 2019

    Playing Killer against a swf feels like being a clown in your underwear on public display. @Angelino244 it isn't fun. Why play something you know has the potential to be completely unbalanced towards you? Even without communication swf is really strong. You know the playstyles of everyone you are with. Joe takes saves Jane likes chases, Bob and Tim do gens mostly. Your team then knows how to play quite well. It comes down to Reliable teammates vs Randos.

  • GrootDude
    GrootDude Member Posts: 14,110

    @ClogWench most PS4 players have quick killer lobbies

  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582

    Can't relate at all. Literally stopped playing for close to a month cause I only ever had a half hour here or there and didn't have time to wait for a lobby for 20 odd minutes each time

  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    I have expressed my idea several times, so what do you think about it? Shouldn't we play more swf until (hopefully) the developers balance the game? I have been hearing about this for months, but the game still seems unbalanced to me. That said, with the current situation swf you can't play, because beyond the long enough times, the killers dodged (right or not that is not the case).

  • Liruliniel
    Liruliniel Member Posts: 3,047


    You can tell who's joining your lobby prior to anyone spawning in on ps4.

  • GodDamn_Angela
    GodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,213

    "the killer does not care if he does damage to the survivor,"

    Hecking LOL. Dodging a game = Damaging the survivors now.

    Sorry but some Killers don't like going up against SWF who are most likely using voice chat to share information.

  • fcc2014
    fcc2014 Member Posts: 4,388

    @Angelino244 go play killer on ps4. The killer side is broke and it is currently easier than ever. See survivors silhouette on generators through walls and such. When killer lobbies go back to long wait times maybe they will stop dodging.

  • Avilgus
    Avilgus Member Posts: 1,261

    Oh ! it's so complicated to understand that using the vocal on an asymmetrical game imbalances the game?

    Personally I do not dodge lobbys when it's a SWF unless I play characters like Trapper, Hag, Gf, I hope I do not have to explain why ... I think ... or I play Billy or Spirit, it's fun for everyone.

  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    at this point they would remove the swf mode and play only alone. Perhaps so he finds the lobbies earlier.since you can't play swf ...

  • JordanMalicious
    JordanMalicious Member Posts: 383

    90% of the time, if I'm killer and I load up a lobby and see it's a swf, I'll play it. Makes me better at the game (if they Aren't being toxic). That said, a lot of the time swf are cocky or try to save off the hook almost immediately after I hook, so, I actually have not had the worst experience facing swf. Mind you, I have DEFINITELY gone against a few toxic swf groups before and it made my blood boil.

  • Rex_Honeycut
    Rex_Honeycut Member Posts: 102

    I think that the biggest problem with SWF on PS4 is the party chat. ( I am a killer main but I do squad up with some buddies on SWF from time to time.) They can communicate with each other clear across the map and after they die. If there was a way to limit the chat to a proximity and disable dead survivors from communicating with live ones, that would be better. Chat settings similar to the inferior ripoff that is Friday the 13th. I hate to reference that game on this forum but they did get some things right.

  • Alfred
    Alfred Member Posts: 272

    Do not play SWF then?

  • Tawnieeee
    Tawnieeee Member Posts: 32

    SWF doesn't mean an automatic loss for the killer. Majority of the time it's an easy 4k because they're way too altruistic, to the point of being stupid. Sure, you get those random ninja groups who are quick and perfectly coordinated...but that's not the rule, but an exception. And let's not forget that survivors having flashlights mean they're actual good with them. I don't mind hard games with A SWF squad because I like the challenge and improving my game play. Killers shouldn't dodge because they're scared, that's crazy. They shouldn't be able to see survivor's game tags until after the match, either.

  • Angelino244
    Angelino244 Member Posts: 27

    One thing is certain, I have no game with poor random players. Some start the game from afk, who throws a random pallet, who doesn't save you from the hook, who makes a random totem when a last gen is missing and gets killed, and I could still talk about crap from them. Playing random is unbalanced for us survival and in favor of the killer.

  • LostxPanda
    LostxPanda Member Posts: 7

    Thinking about the current balance situation couldn't the devs use the emblem system to help match people. So here's what I am thinking make it so when the game counts down to start it forces all 4 survivors into a chat and add in quick text chat for the non mic people. Problems with play style could possibly be solved by looking at emblem acquisition rate how often does x player get x emblem could say what kind of player they are. For the leet pro people that max all emblems they could base it off of which came first I guess. How do we help killers in this scenario? Buff them to be closer to the stronger killers. There's still flaws in this system but I am just throwing stuff out there

  • Rivyn
    Rivyn Member Posts: 3,022

    Your bait post made me chuckle. Joke of the day. Thank you for that.

  • PickCollins
    PickCollins Member Posts: 495

    Really killers? Ur gonna complain that SWF is unwinnable and unbalanced yet we have Nurse?????? Srsly? Not all SWF are good first of all. Second of all, I'm sure all SWF groups will tell you that they are scared shitless of a good enough Nurse.

    Also here's the other thing. Don't ######### about lobby times taking forever if ur gonna dodge lobbies

  • Markness
    Markness Member Posts: 242

    Ive been frequently running into teams that have at least one person running OoO, and are trying to spam the lockers in a building so I’ll go and chase them for an eternity... but yeah, obviously I ignore that person.. point im trying to make is that to may have good intentions with your SWF group, but there are so many 2-3 man groups that play just to mess with the killer and try to ruin their day. I’ve seen it even at the grey ranks after coming back to an account that my wife used... people play in a way to mess with killers and as someone else mentioned, every time you do that you’re going to play against some angry sluggy nurse, or a huntress running iri heads and a pink mori.


    devs really need to address this issue.. give killers a BP bonus for facing SWF, otherwise enjoy the dodge.

  • Fog_King
    Fog_King Member Posts: 688

    Sometimes, I play SWF with other people I met online. Our group has 4 people and we are all from different countries, so we don't use mics to communicate. Between matches, we use the app to text each other in English.


    The point is, I understand some SWF use mics, are toxic, are in contact all the time, but it's not always the case, like with my group. We just want to have fun. But a lot of times, after waiting for minutes for a lobby, we get one and the killer dodges, which sucks for us, because we just want to play.


    When I play killer, I get a lobby, hit ready and don't even pay attention to what items people have, if they came together or not, I want to play, that is it. Do all my matches go well? Of course not, but it's not just because of SWF and I think it would be much less fun for me to just stand there waiting for people to show, see people joining together, dodge, search again and repeat.