Do yall really think the game is fair?

The perks we have only do so much where though the killers perks are OP af. For an example, Dead Hard gets you like a second or half a second worth of boost but the killer ends up being right behind you anyway. Survivors need better and more buffed perks.

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  • dontealeous
    dontealeous Member Posts: 6

    What do yall think?

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    It is 99% fair, (except certain toxic builds with moris ;D) you have to learn how to loop and juke. What I don't find fair is no consequence for toxicity in the community besides bans, whether post game chat or in game play.

  • ElusivePukka
    ElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    edited July 2019

    Adrenaline, Decisive Strike, Borrowed Time, InstaHeals, Skeleton Keys, near constant SWF giving twelve information perks in one - I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

    Yes, I think the game is balanced. I even think NOED is balanced, though that may change with the totem changes coming. I agree with @Ember_Hunter though, the unpunished, unrepentant, and even praised toxicity in the community is what sucks. I'd be completely fine with banning everyone who's made a video titled some expy of "Lookit How Toxic I Is" - only half joking, people would really learn quick

    It sounds like you're new. Learn the jukes, learn the loops, and understand that once you're in a chase the game is designed to have you get hit once at least, but survivors have many little tricks to capitalize on even small mistakes killers make. You're not going to get that Iridescent Unbroken consistently until you've learned the game and have a little luck on your side.

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    Sadly, I never get luck in games as survivor, I always get found first or get spawned nearby the killer (Spine chill activates immediately or I see the red stain already in the distance)

  • dontealeous
    dontealeous Member Posts: 6

    Ive been playing the game since it came out @ElusivePukka I am well informed with how to juke and loop but the killers such as legion and scream are Op af and you dont have to agree honestly but maybe if you looked at it from a survivor point of view you wouldn't waste your time typing emancipation like essays.

  • ElusivePukka
    ElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599
    edited July 2019

    If you're thinking Legion and Ghostface are OP, no, it's hard to believe you're 'well informed with how to juke and loop'. Both don't hit top tier for a reason: Legion has mobility and information but little followthrough, while Derpface is an M1 killer against competent survivors - loops invalidate his power's effect, while map awareness invalidates his power's proc. Even if you have been playing since the beginning like me, it seems you have some stuff to un/relearn.

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    From a survivor's point of view, I find it fair, it is just how fast and efficiently you can think in chases. Killers don't need nerfs, Survivors don't need buffs.

  • dontealeous
    dontealeous Member Posts: 6

    Sounds to me like your one of those arrogant killers that cant see both sides of the scale beacuse as long as the game is going well for you then everything is fair lol. The funniest part about this conversation is... if the game was actually 99% fair like @Ember_Hunter says it is then you both would not be in the feedback section speaking to me. Lol let me say that one more time, the feedback section, where you either talk about what needs to be buffed, nerfed, bugs, ect. So if it is 99% fair and nothing is wrong with the game why are you here again? @ElusivePukka

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693
  • ElusivePukka
    ElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599

    Sounds to me like you'd rather try to denigrate people than have real support for your side.

    There's definitely things that need fixing, things that can be reworked, and even the fun bits of the game can be worked on to try to make a balanced and fun game for both sides. Left Behind needs a buff/rework, NOED could use a rework even though it's fairer in higher ranks where people know what's going on, there's tweaks and QoL changes that could be made on plenty of maps and addons.

    Just because something's balanced doesn't mean it can't be improved - this isn't the Buff/Nerf Feedback section, it's the Balance Feedback section. The idea is broader in scope.

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693
  • dontealeous
    dontealeous Member Posts: 6

    Yes it was a question, but it was meant for people that are are informed with the manifested aspects of the game that could be better for survivors and killers but I was saying that the whole 99% fairness statement wasnt very accurate due to all the how busy the feedback section is. People obviously find that there are several things that could be touched up on and balance is definitely one. In a perfect world, sure balance sounds nice but if it were actually present here then as I said before people such as myself and the developers would continue to make changes and statements directed to in game flaws. @Ember_Hunter

  • dontealeous
    dontealeous Member Posts: 6

    True @Dr_Trauts

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    99% was an overestimate, I was just saying it excluding bugs, lags, etc. Chases are completely fair (except sandbaggers) and of course bugs are not fair. Nothing can be perfect, but at the base and root sense, it is completely fair until moris and instaheals come to play.

  • KillermainBTWm8
    KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 4,212

    Dude are you lying? One does not simply play the game since it's came out and thinks killer perks are OP af and Dead Hard is useless. Sorry but unless I get proof of your playtime I am just going to assume you are lying.


    As for the thread both sides have "unfair" stuff in regards to add-ons and offerings but it's currently fairer then it's ever been.

  • Ember_Hunter
    Ember_Hunter Member Posts: 1,693

    Also, Dead Hard is used to either accurate dodge a hit or get to a safe window or pallet on time. It was never used just for a distance thing.

  • KillermainBTWm8
    KillermainBTWm8 Member Posts: 4,212

    Yea but most people don't understand this apparently.

  • starpilotsix
    starpilotsix Member Posts: 203



    Ignoring that you think Dead Hard is a weak perk... killer perks SHOULD be OP, compared to survivor's. Killers get 4 perks, survivors, collectively, get 16. So killer perks should be on average 4 times as powerful as a survivor's.

  • Erasox
    Erasox Member Posts: 231

    legion and ghost face are in my opinion really weak.

    the strongest killer is nurse. But for me is spirit. every one has his own strong killer

    to play and vice versa.

  • CoffengMin
    CoffengMin Member Posts: 862

    not at all, its absolutely unfair for survivors if killers camps or tunnels, and its very unfair when the killer gets genrushed without camping or tunneling

  • Gay Myers (Luzi)
    Gay Myers (Luzi) Member Posts: 4,427

    Locked due to the way you have been speaking and responding to people. Try to be more civil in the future.

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