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Am I part of a rare species ?
Playing for a while now, I feel like I'm embracing the almighty and famous survivor's bible.
Never Camp / tunnel / Noed / Mori.
Using ruin sometimes on slow killers.
Not relying on add ons to do OP things.
And guess what, I'm taking pleasure more than ever playing this game. Yes, gens go fast as hell, but who cares, I'm focused on what Im doing, good chases, mindgame and my ability to apply pressure, sometimes it works, sometimes not...and I don't pay too much attention on who dies / escapes, or the "Ranking" system... Only having fun.
Since I do this I always got love messages from survivors, even if they die on the trial, cause I guess everyone got a chance to play and have fun in that short entity show we're in.
I think that's how this game should be played on the long therm, but thats just my opinion.
How much are we ?
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The game should be played the way you want while staying within the devs rules, not imaginary rules.
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You can play however you want mate.
As a killer i personally avoid many of the things you listed, not because i want to be fair, but because other reasons.
I only run noed for giggles, other than that i got better builds to run.
I don't tunnel or use moris (except for the dailies) because that usually means less bps. Same with broken op addons.
I don't camp because i always assume i'm playing against good survivors and that means less bps as well.
Anyway, glad that you are having fun and don't take this game too seriously since it's just that, a game.
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And what, you want a pat on the back?
Different strokes for different folks man.
I don't use Ruin either, but I don't go around bragging about it. I just generally dislike perks I can't get use out of 100% of the game, that's it.
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Of course one can play the way he wants... I think the knowledge and playing on both sides of the balance help to understand that there are plenty of possibilities to enjoy playing this game, growing up, growing up.
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No. Just want to know if there are other players enjoying the game this way or similar, thats the only point of this thread.
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A+. Wholesome post.
Like this is literally it. And actually, most survivor mains don't care about add ons, Ruin, or NOED depending on how the killer plays the match.
But like..... we're just here for a good time. I don't give a crap about dying. Kill me. But give me a chance to play the freaking game first. If I get into a good chase or two with a killer who isn't camping and tunneling anyone and our whole team dies, I give props to the killer for outplaying us. We play games to have fun.
This attitude people seem to carry that "I'm not here for your fun, I'm here to win." Go play an e-sport then. Take that somewhere else.
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So let’s think about 2 questions
- if the first chasing takes you more than 2mins, will you tunnelling later ?
- you just hooked a person beside a gen which was almost finished, will you camp around ?
if your answers are “no”
then the “good killer”perhaps just is not a praise. your playstyle couldnt give intensions to all 4 survivors， in another words，you havent give the fun you supposed to those one havent been chasing by you.
true good killer will judge the situation， if his knock down speed is kinder fast，he will play just like what you do.But in reverse,they will do tunelling ，camping，slugging to detain survivors repairing speed untill depletion.
I do those things also，and I rarely got negtive judgements.Im also a good killer in their mouth，with respect.
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Unfortunately this mindset you describe is not common in this community (or at least not outside of PC). I feel like most of the people who did have this mindset left already due to the game's repetitiveness and we just have toxic people. On console everyone has the "I want to win" mindset instead of the "It's just a game, let's try to have fun and escape" mindset.
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I'm trying to figure out why "playing to win" is somehow bad or toxic
This mindset is completely alien to me.
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Ive figured out that no matter WHAT you do, ppl will always find reason to complain. I tried playing Clown the other day with some pretty tame addons that I had an abundance of. After a 4 man escape, I still caught ######### for using a yellow addon that caused exhaustion.
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It's not that playing to win is "bad" or "toxic".
Playing scummy and at the expense of everyone else is what people consider bad or toxic. By all means, play your best. Run iri hatchets. Play your infinite tier 3 myers.
But if the only way you can win is "I'm going to hook you, hit the first person who shows up, pretend to chase them and then run back to hook so that no one else comes to save you"
then 1. you're boring.
and 2. you just need to simply get better at the game, because there's no skill involved in that.
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I tried it for the first six months.
Six months of survivors edging every advantage gave me a clarity about humanity that will never leave me. I didn't need the post-game chat(introduced later) to understand.
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Being a "good killer" is subjective. I guess its a matter of goal you got with yourself in the game.
@ArecBalrin I feel you, there are a lot of kids on this game, but that doesnt mean everyone is like that.
@LordGlint Yeah... Some people are just salty by nature and can't stand a "loss"... Thanks to those influencers with inferiority complex.
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Ps4 ftw ;0
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@Jago I get too many ppl who expect me to play stupid in order for them to have fun. Had a game the other day when I managed to hook 2 ppl in the basement at the same time. While carrying the 2nd person in, I very clearly saw a Bill run away from the basement entrance as he realized he didnt have time to unhook the first person. This same person then blew up the endgame chat about how I couldnt have POSSIBLY known there was someone around who was looking at making the save, and how I was camping for not immediately leaving the area (I managed to get to the basement stairs before they could leave).
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I don’t tunnel but I might camp at endgame.
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be ware that killers are the one who controls the game intense
if i were a survivor，your playstyle only expressed to me one signal：“feel free to do anything”
You just performed like an AI and that will makes me feel this is not a competative round but a bit how boring.
I’m not here to persuade you, just to tell you that your play style is not that heath
and be promoted as you supposed to be a good killer
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Play how you want to, it's a game.
Ignore the made up rule books, ignore people telling you how you SHOULD be playing whether that is nice or nasty, because its your choice at the end of the day and as long as you are having fun....well the opposite would be fairly bloody pointless.
I don't care what perks you use, or addons, as long as you aren't a toxic tit who can' win or loose like a grownup then its all cool with me.
Personally i don't camp because I get more BP from multiple hooks. I don't tunnel but i'm not going to let you go if you run straight into me again. Does this make me better than you? No, it just means i prefer to play my own way.
I've had killers and survivors be toxic towards me, but I sure as hell won't let that change my nature. I do things my own way, i have my 'own' rules when it comes to what i consider fair when facing an opponent on either side. I don't expect people to follow my way, but neither will I be forced into playing by someone else's code.
I'd rather have fun and possibly loose, than feel like king d**k on Big E Peen mountain for playing sweaty.
As for anyone with an opposite philosophy....you do you, it's a game at the end of the day.
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Yes you are a part of rare species and playing how you described is exactly how to get good at the game.
Soft camping or tunneling are strategies that might help you win and rank up. But eventually you will go against a group of very good survivors and will hit a skill wall and start blaming the game/devs because you couldn't win.
Even in red ranks, I can't count the times I played against killers that don't know how to run T/L walls, killer shack, jungle gyms correctly. I rarely see a killer trying to zone me out to dead zones.
I have full respect for killers that are trying to improve rather than win at any cost. I get disappointed when I play against a killer with 3000 hours and still need to drop a chase and go back to tunnel an unhooked survivor in order to win.
As a survivor, there is no shame when you die when playing against a skilled killer. This is probably why you don't see a lot of salty massages.
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Dropping chase on someone youve spent too much time on to interupt a heal isnt a bad idea. Im not even saying to chase down the person who was just unhooked. Keeping ppl injured is a good way of keeping up pressure.
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I had the same experience, every time I tried to be nice or turn a blind eye to someone who was on last hook in mere minutes of the match I just got slapped in the face for it. I still try not to tunnel or run Moris but honestly the killer is there for fun too, and sometimes playing by all the “rules” just gets you a 4 man adrenaline T bag.
I’m just kinda feeling a little done, I’m not going to go out of my way to be terrible and camp/tunnel etc (unless it’s endgame, then all is fair if I have something to defend), but I am going to start playing for my fun as well. No more feeling guilty for using things like moris or strong addons, it’s nice to change things up occasionally, especially considering most of my killer experiences lately.
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For those walking killers, especially M1 relying killers, they could rarely got one hook one down situations.
In another words. Drop a chase back to tunelling is the only thing to do to restain the survivor's repairing.
keep chasing you means the hooked person got freely saved and soon 3 survivors start to repair gens. Go back means another two person have to stop their repairing to save the hooked one. The round time extented means you all 4 got more chance to compete with the killer.
you should know there still be a upper limit for those walking killers, it is not a case about play time.
I'm also a 3000 hours player, what I would do is to give the survivors the best experience as I could within my control. But if the game intense is under control of the survivors. I could only say sorry for I was going to take any cost to ensure that there will soon be a deplation between survivor teams. Then if the game intense back to my side, I will ensure your game experiences later.
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They don't want you telling them how incredibly easy this game is for killers (and only getting easier with more survivor nerfs, map "balance" etc) They just want to continue camping, making survivors upset and salty, then coming here to stroke their ego.
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Yeah I agree. Dropping a chase if the survivor is a very good looper who is in a strong position is a good and smart move if you are playing to win. However, a killer with thousands of hours playing a top tier killer, dropping a chase randomly to go back and tunnel an unhooked survivor make me disappointed.
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Came to mind after your reading your post for some reason.
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One thing from my perspective should I propose to fix your words.
I dont care bout if the survivor I was chasing is skillful or not.
What I do care as a killer is that if your running direction is towards where there had already been consumed some pallets. if it is, and it is not possible to knock you down, then I give up.
On the contrary, I will as far as possible force the survivors to be chasing around where I hooked the person, for it is easy to ensure my knock down speed cause Im clear about the landform and resources there.
I've also proved that if I totally didnt take those stratergy at all, then even green rank survivors could easily finished the gen repairing.
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A reminder that survivors deleted their own thread listing their 'nerfs' out of embarassment when it was dwarfed by the killers own list.
Go ahead and start it again here if you're that confident. I'll make another killer one to compare it with, using whatever rules you choose when determining what counts as a 'nerf'.
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Cry me a river, killer nerfs were NOTHING in comparison to what's been happening for over a year now to survivors. Daily reminder NURSE STILL EXISTS!
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It seems that we have different opinions on how to create map pressure. I think that, one person on the hook, one person is healing, one going for the save and the forth one being chased is the ideal situation for a killer or,
One on the hook, one slugged on the ground, one is being chased and the last one going for the save. In this scenario, no one is doing any thing to progress the game forward.
Tunneling is a strategy that may or may not work. If the survivor being tunneled know how to loop, was unhooked with BT or had DS, then you have lost all your map pressure by going back to him. This is why if you tunnel, don't complain about gen rush because you did nothing to keep the survivors away from the gens.
A killer with thousands of hours, dropping a chase to tunnel one person is disappointing because he don't have confidence to end the chase quickly and maintain his momentum.
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One on the hook, one slugged on the ground, it is not easy or even impossible in red ranks with classical walking M1 killers.
And your another ideal situation, from my own experience, it always come from my drop chasing and back to tunelling.
We are talking about the same thing bro.
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no it doesn't make anyone "rare" or anything, it just makes you sympathetic and empathetic towards the opposing player, which is a good thing to develop. You aren't limiting the experience, or making anyone throw their keyboard across the room.
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I'm like you mostly.
I'll use Ruin on all my killers just so I can have a chill game. I'll play without Ruin if I feel like playing especially try-hard with Spirit, maybe Freddy or Billy, but that's about it. Rarely ever use NOED. Rarely use mori's. Rarely use anything above rare add-ons. I often actively avoid tunnelling/camping, but I will do it if necessary.
It's very much the same as survivor too. I rarely bring items, usually only when I've had a streak of bad games or lame killers. Only offerings I use are BP offerings. Only "second chance" perk I use is BT because sometimes you just kind of need it. Rest of my build is Spine Chill, Balanced, and Iron Will. I don't rush gens unless I have to, usually I'll just do stuff for BP like totems or chests. Death is whatever most of the time, I will kamikaze hooks or gens if I think it might help others get out. But I will play hard to avoid letting the killer get a 4k, that's really the only thing.
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Well, I think you should play the way you want to. If you like playing by the survivors 3 billion rules for killers, then great for you.
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I'm similar.
I mostly play M1 killers as I find it the most fun personally, and my focus is more on individual chases and trying to outplay the people I chase than the end result of the match. Sure I do what I can to apply pressure and extend the game like slugging the person that gets unhooked and then chasing the unhooker and slugging in general when it's beneficial, but I don't tunnel or camp pretty much ever. At the same time I won't ignore a recently unhooked person if I see them and their savior disappeared into the 5th dimension either.
I don't want a pat on the back for it, it's simply how I have the most fun.
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Thats a secreeeet shhhhh :'D
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To me that makes being red ranks even more of a challenge and an acomplishment, as totally sub "objective".
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Hmm, the only thing on that list I sometimes do is Mori people, cause they don't cleanse my Devour Hope.
I don't EVER defend that Totem though, so it's their fault if they die anyway.
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I'm seeing the same claim being repeated and having given you an invitation to post evidence, you just ignore that and keep repeating it. So it's just empty words.
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It depends. I can be nice or play dirty. It depends mostly on survivors. If they want to tbag and bm I will try to stomp them without caring about their fun because they don't deserve fun games.
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Nah you're not. I think those that play that way tend to not be vocal because they're just having fun.
Personally I found myself to play mostly according to The Good Killer's Rulebook™ because I just play like I'd like a killer to play vs me and I find it more fun and engaging. This way I almost never feel I lose, because even if people escape I had fun. Usually there are still survivors who trashtalk me so I don't consider much survivors' opinions, some are just entitled twats.
On a side note, I don't agree much with the part about OP addons. I personally consider very few addons OP or simply unfun, but in general they are just part of the game. They can be changed, but until then just accept them.
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