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Anti Noed?
Isn't this game meant to be balanced? where is the Anti Noed? we used to have MOM but they nerfed it, so now what? every sweaty killer cheats the game out of the survivors hands by a stupid perk and that should be okay?
I mean killers gets more points anyway even if they suck, while stealing my 5k escape points effect survivors more, why there is no anti perk for noed?
some may argue that you can cleanse all totems, but is that really easy or doable every game unless you are on SWF? no its not easy, I cant waste time cleansing all 5 totems unless am on SWF, so what about solo players? I think this perk should be nerfed to maybe 1 or 2 kills max, and the 3% extra speed should be for a period of time like Hope and not just there!
opinions?
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If only 1 or 2 gens don't cleanse totems! Remember where they are. You have very very high probabilities that one of these totems will be the hex one.
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But we have an anti-noed... it is called ADRENALINE.
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Not really. NOED is the Anti-Adrenaline, but not vice-versa.
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I hate the combo Ruin + Noed. But if there is no Ruin, I will always expect Noed. When there is 1-2 gen left. I will find totems.
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I personally do agree the speed increase of NOED should be removed.
The easiest way to deal with NOED is memorise totem spawns and as you progress through each tile check the spawn points.
I even check spawns while being chased if possible.
When a new map comes out go into KYF and memorise spawns.
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Do bones
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Just because something doesn't have a direct counter doesn't mean it's automatically unbalanced. 95% of the time, it's not very difficult to find and cleanse all the totems if you know where they are likely to spawn. The other 5% of the time, one might spawn in a very well-hidden spot and you never find it, but only having to deal with NOED 5% of the time when you can't find the last totem is not a big deal imo.
I can't confirm this for certain, but I've heard that they always spawn near generators, and you will never find two in the same area - so if you find one next to a generator, you don't need to search around nearby rocks for more. As Might_Oakk mentioned, keep an eye out when you're being chased or carried. Make a mental note of any lit totems that get cleansed by teammates - lit totems are also easier to see, and can be often located by watching the killer's movements and making note of areas they tend to return to often. There are several things you can bring in your loadout to help with totem finding, such as bringing Small Game (which is the closest thing you're going to get to a NOED counter perk) or a map with the ability to track the killer's belongings.
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Yesterday I played a game as surv. When I was doing the last gen a claudette started cleansing a totem in front of the gen. If I could I would snap her. I finished the gen before she cleansed the totem and yes, the totem transformed in the hex one. Please, don't cleanse totems when finishing the last gen!!!
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You can't waste your time doing totems coz u need to genrush right? And don't come at me with the"i am being chased" thing. Noed adds another objective to the game and since gens are getting done ridiculously fast nowadays we can rely better on Endgame builds. So how about you do bones next time instead of complaining :)
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am not complaining dear, am looking for balance, Ebony Mori, Rare addon? not really.. what does survivor have in their blood web that would be considered Anti for that? or as Strong? which Perk would also be Anti for Noed or as Strong? every killer looks at my DS and ask me why am complaining? DS would be a useless perk if you arent a tunneling jerk
I play Killer too, never noed, and I dont mori, survivors escaped? so what? end of the world? I had my fun chasing and my points hooking each of them
Dont be too salty over the end game killers get more points than survivors regardless
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Perhaps I misunderstood, but it seems like you're saying that this person cleansed NOED basically a few seconds after you popped the last gen? That sounds like an ideal scenario to me, I'm not sure what the problem is.
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How is that possibly an Anti for Noed? you even get exhausted from it, I'd rather be injured maybe ill have a chance to Deadheart
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Anti NOED perks :
Small Game
Detective's Hunch
Inner Strength ( incoming ).
Enjoy.
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Again gens are done too fast. And for killers like clown that have no map presure NOED is the go to perk. It's really easy to counter: take a bit of your time and eliminate totems. Or ffs just memorize where you saw them and after the last Gen pops go there and look for the lit one. But nooooo. In the words of a wise person: "ain't nobody got time for that" they sit on gens with their toolboxes and rush, so that they can have a 2 minute game. If you didn't have time for bones the get hit by noed
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Small Game is your anti-Noed
Or the map with the addon to show killer's belongings if you don't want to use a perk for that
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Rainbow maps are the ultimate anti-noed and overall anti-hex item. Not a perk but still if you want to make sure all the totems get cleansed a rainbow map with a crystal bead add-on (so all the other survivors can see the totems as well) will certainly do the trick.
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Ur right here when people want to genrush killer they deserve to get hit by NOED and some killers really need NOED because lacking of map pressure but there are also scenarios when totems are in such well hidden spots and with zero coms when u play solo u sometimes have no way to prevent that + NOED is frustrating when u get from all escape to 4k when u play against killer that is REALLY bad to put it lightly or he just let survivors do gens because he ONLY relies on NOED instead of his skill and somehow get to kill u do to things like lag , hitbox out of space etc. That's just my opinion
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I feel You. I also play survivor. My most effective start is to leave all the totems and at the end check the obvious ones, hoping I get lucky.
This is Dbd. You win some you lose some.
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Small Game
Survivors have Adrenalin without ingame counter for killers.
Killer only have the counter perk NOED.
And Adrenalin is a meta perk.
So some killer use NOED as counter.
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What you want, is not an Anti-NOED, there plenty of those in the game.
You want a free escape.
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Ingame counter to Adrenaline: Prevent all gens being done.
Why do people forget about this? Its the same as "Cleanse all Totems".
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Its not the same, but I understand your opinion.
As killer its just frustrating, if you chase someone and he healed up.
Or you hooked someone and he is full health after the unhook.
Its just not a good feeling as killer,
but its a great feeling as survivor.
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Inner Strength is going to further push the idea of getting totems cleansed throughout the game, that's likely going to be a big anti-noed perk
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You gonna have the "do bones" ultra shield... Sorry boss.
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How on earth was MoM an anti-noed? That perk was just broken.
I'm not a big fan of NOED myself, but it's not op in my opinion. A totem counter would be nice though, to close the gap between solo and swf survivors ever so slightly.
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Hope counters the speed buff of NoEd
The anti noed however is called "cleanse totems" or "Inner strength"
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She wanted to cleanse the totem before I ended the gen, not after.
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We have inner strength coming out. NOED is in the end times now.
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'We can't always cleanse NoED, therefor NoED is OP'. 🙄
There are anti-NoED things in the game:
Small Game
Rainbow Map
Cleaning Bones.
Yes, you can't ALWAYS clean all the totems, but that's not OP; that's the Killer pressuring you. Claiming killers 'cheat' or a perk is 'unbalanced' because you can't ALWAYS clear is is stupid. Why not just say 'NoED should deactivate when the gates are powered, because actually USING it is cheating!' 🙄
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