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THIS IS NOT TUNNELING! Tunneling concept discussion
Share your experiences or ideas to add to the concept.
Ok... I've been called a tunneler lots of times because of what people THINK tunneling is and actually it is a strategy I hate using so... Here's a "tunneler" description I believe most of us killer mains share:
Tunneling: "The action of focusing on one survivor who has just been unhooked by CHOOSING to target him/her" mostly caused in high ranks cause the survivor decided it would be a good idea to t-bag the killer or use the flashlight to annoy him or caused cause the killer has an END GAME BUILD.
Tunneling is not:
- When a DUMB survivor runs straight to you after being unhooked and you proceed to land a hit.
- When a survivor is found after being unhooked without meaning to do it, even more so if you found him doing a hex or a gen and he didn't think he should run away.
- When you accidentally land a hit on the recently unhooked survivor when you were focusing on getting the rescuer cause he was dumb enough to share paths with him.
- When more than 1-3 (depends on the killer) minutes have passed since the unhook and the killer WASN'T CHASING YOU but then he ran into you and proceeds to chase or down you. This also depends on the gen rush, cause sometimes we use the hooks to slow down the game and make other survivors focus on the rescue regardless of how much time it has passed since the unhook.
- When the killer is chasing another survivor who runs straight to you and he switches targets cause you didn't think you should move away from the chase cause "if the killer hits you then he must be tunneling right?"
- When you were the first one to die regardless of if the others had been hooked and YOU made bad decisions that led you to your doom cause you were found again and again without the killer MEANING AND CHOOSING to target you.
MY SIGNALS OF "I'M NOT TUNNELING YOU":
- I down you after you got unhooked cause you made bad desicions and ran into me, then I don't hook you again and proceed to leave or to chase the saviour
- I down you after you got unhooked cause you made bad desicions and ran into me, then I move my head saying "no" and go away
- I find you cause of your scratch marks and I think not enough time has passed since the unhook, then I fully stop and say "no" moving my head
Comments
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I had a similar thought...
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I already knew about this vid, and I do undestand the justification of actually tunneling but I actually try to give others a chance at enjoying the game too, still, what I don't like is when people missunderstand the concept and still feel "trashed"
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Although i don't like to tunnel as killer, it's a quite effective strategy for most weaker killers and even needed for the effect of "Dying Light". It's sometimes very annoying for survivors tho.
Tunneling: Ignoring every other survivor while going against one survivor till he's dead.
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There's opportunistic tunneling (many of the situations in the "not tunneling" list up there), and there's "hardcore tunneling".
One is being presented a choice and choosing to go for the softer target (even though with Borrowed Time + Decisive Strike they might actually be the more resilient target at times if it happens around unhooks!), and if the killer isn't tunneling as a primary strategy from the start of the match this can be mitigated by not healing under the hook, making sure the killer gets busy with someone else before you risk revealing yourself, that sort of thing.
The other is getting legitimate tunnelvision and proxy camping, immediately abandoning chases the moment an unhook happens, that sort of thing. This shares weaknesses with camping as the killer makes it blatantly clear the other survivors are at lowered risk whenever the target isn't on the hook (and while they are, if proxy camping is involved), so they can either just fully focus gens or rush the hook right before stage transitions to buy extra time more or less for free. This simply seems like a pretty bad idea to do considering how common Borrowed Time and Decisive Strike is, unless combined with a Mori, in which case it can be pretty lethal.
I guess there's also emotion-fueled "rage tunneling" against people that do something percieved as annoying/toxic, but considering my "all that is working as intended is fair play" attitude I simply don't understand the point at all. Not sure how many people agree with me when I say I think it's a petty scrub move to make, just as confusing to me as survivors starting to tbag a killer for some percieved rules-of-conduct violation.
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@FriendlyGuy Ok, but I would add "CHOOSING to ignore every other survivor while going against one survivor till he's dead" cause if he gets in your way or teases you to go against him, he decided to get the attention right?
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I'd like to point out that it is possible to Tunnel a Survivor without hooking them. It doesn't come up often but your definition shouldn't exclude situations where you aren't hooking people for whatever reason.
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Yeah you're right.
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I'll throw a game on purpose to tunnel Ace.
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I tunnel just to get rid of one survivor early, so the rest become easier to manage. It is nothing personal against that particular survivor (they are all equaly despicable to me)
I try to quickly determine which one of them is the least proficient at handling the chase and go for him/her.
If I fail to chose correctly, I will have lost a lot of time chasing a good survivor.
I never necessarily go for the one who t-bags, as a matter of fact I try to ignore him/her (That cockiness usualy comes with being good at the chase).
An important fact: I don't care about how that tactic makes them feel, just don't be the easier survivor to find and catch and you will be fine.
Finally, there are some games where I don't get to tunnel. If in those games one of the sacrificed acuse me of tunneling, I just let them think that. I like it when they get angry :-)
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I don't like it when the one that's easier to catch has to be Ace. I don't like to kill him, he is my compatriot after all ;-)
But tunneling is not personal in my case, my objective is to make sure no survivor escapes my hunting ground.
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Tunneling: "The action of focusing on one survivor who has just been unhooked by CHOOSING to target him/her"
I'd call what you describe "hook tunneling", which can be a strategic tactic in certain scenarios. I don't like it and don't do it, but it's kinda the equivalent of gen rushing (kill rushing?): an unfun tactic with the only aim to "win" faster.
To me true tunneling is more about focusing on a particular survivor (for whatever reason) ignoring other possible targets which might be be easier and/or have more priority.
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Can I add one more to your list of definitions? It’s not tunneling when you and your fellow survivors are all identical, in the same health state, and swarming around the same spot on the map. I should not be expected to withhold my attacks just because I can’t tell which one of you was the last one on the hook.
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Dying Light is a bad perk especially with the recent obsession changes. I don't get why they just don't rework it.
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Preach! I get so many different definitions of tunneling it makes my head spin. Nice of you to try and set a standard.
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Ive seen some survivors just getting randomly chased and shouting "hes tunneling me".
If you get unhooked and killer starts chasing you again thats tunneling to me.
Getting randomly chased isnt, the killers seen you and is chasing you. Not tunneling.
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OMG! so true! That actually happens a lot!
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tunneling is choosing to do a generator with progress instead of searching for a fresh one.
If anyone thinks this sounds dumb, welcome to how killers think about being accused of tunneling.
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I like how this is a perfect way to describe how survivors think tunneling is
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Tunneling is also defined as chasing a survivor for an arbitrary amount of time.
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Nope, tunneling is mostly described as chasing the same survivor to make him die first, the "chasing the same survivor the whole match without being able to hook him cause he's a good looper" is called being a "dumb and stubborn killer".
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I've had streamers say I'm tunneling after a 30s chase. Tunneling is whatever a survivor feels is too long.
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In my experience, people will call anything "tunneling," or "camping," even when those things are not happening. They seem to both mean "anything I don't like" to a lot of players.
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Yep, they also created "proximity camping" as for when you see someone running straight to the hooked survivor and you OBVIOUSLY decide to go back
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I was playing the Hag and was called a tunneler bc after being unhooked the "savior" crouched and walked away but the other survivor ran into ALL of my traps near AND far from the hook.
Look I wasn't going to tunnel you but after the fifth triggered trap I have to do something about it.
Post edited by TheUnendingNightmare on1 -
You are tunneling whenever you hit a survivor :3
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@TheUnendingNightmare I would've gone after him as soon as the first trap triggered, that's his fault, not yours
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Ik but I was trying to be nice...after the 4 others tho I was like "you can't be serious rn ?"
XD
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My definition of tunneling: Going after the same one survivor and no one else for the entire game.
Post edited by NMCKE on4 -
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I am killer main and for my opinion I only tunnel when:
-The survivor forces me to hit him by bodyblocking me with borrowed time
-When he is on the last hook and I really need now 1 survivor out of game because the last 1-2 gens are left
-To slugg him for more pressure overall
-Or to burn out D strike to not deal with it later
-And the last reason and I think that everyone knows, a toxic survivor or streamer who wants your attention
But this dont really happens alot so i actually never tunnel or it doesnt happen alot and I am pretty succesfull with this and get mostly even more pressure out and even more kills. Dont forgot that there are now so many perks that punishes tunneling (borrow, d strike and unbreakable) and I am actually fine with that, I am sooo happy that D strike is now a tunnel punishment because I feel very good when i stun a naughty tunneler with that :).
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