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Cleanse against the Plague? Strawpoll
Let's see what the majority actually thinks.
Feel free to elaborate here
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i like how everyone wants to, but nobody wants to be the first to do it..
why straw poll? why not discuss pros/cons?
personally i ALWAYS cleanse. i want plague to have red vomit and here's why:
with green vomit, she runs around infecting everything and everybody. the things become stinky and gross and will infect anything that comes in contact with whatever is infected.
if it's a person, they become broken and lose the ability to take a hit from the killer, making them completely useless. when they are downed and hung, they hang there infected, and i have to go rescue them, getting myself infected (stinky, noisy, visually easier to see, soon to be 1-hit down), and they are broken so i can't even get any altruism from them.. altruism (healing others) is 25% of my score.. without that i have to max all 3 other categories just to get a 75% score..
when people cleanse and give the plague red vomit, sure she has ranged attacks but you have to get hit twice. i'm not sure why people try to constantly run away from a killer with ranged attacks, but they do.. if they would invest a little time instead in learning the size of the object you need to loop around for her to not be able to hit them with the vomit when she tries, she would run out of red vomit before being able to down them..
when they do get downed by red vomit and they get hooked, after unhooking them i get to get altruism, and so do other teammates that are smart enough to come "get it while the getting is good..". i also don't automatically get infected, so after healing, the newly formed "group" of people who can all take 2 hits if needed can then work together on getting things done instead of having to focus so hard on hiding because they're broken.
remember if survivors are as good as they think they are, 8 hooks can take place in a match before anyone ever dies.. who cares if you get downed and put on a hook? the game is not a 1v1 game, even tho a lot of people like to pretend it is, which is why people are usually dead by the time a killer has 1-3 hooks in a game instead of closer to 8..
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I did say to people to elaborate if they felt like it.
The strawpoll is so no one can go "i think most agree that X". We can get the numbers, so why not? :)
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It is kinda gross
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...Wow...
I'm sure your teammates thank you for always cleansing. Give a good plague the red vomit and watch your team get snowballed on hard. A plague with red vomit has the potential to down survivors as fast as nurse and huntress.
You're not dodging that vomit if the plague is half-way decent. And when the red timer runs out? Plague can just green vomit on the hooked person or while they are on the ground, so either way you are going to be infected.
Don't cleanse against plague unless the game is already over, or you're in a location (near the end of the game) that would be super inconvenient for the plague to get to, or you want to screw over your team. Cleansing all the time is about the same as dropping every pallet immediately. You might be saving yourself in the short term, but you have doomed your team against a good plague.
Of course, none of the above matters if the plague isn't very good.
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Why cleanse when you will be sick in a minute anyway...
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Never
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Never cleanse against the plag, unless playing as a full 4 man who can coordinate and use all the fountains to reset them back to normal and not corrupt.
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lmao.. i'm not really concerned with what teammates that don't cleanse want to thank me for.. i'm trying to have a good time and a good game, and i can do neither with a bunch of broken people trying to gen rush & run out of the door.. you could say that if i could i would thank them for never cleansing and making me skip a good chunk of the game..
again, if my teammates are of the variety that are powerless against a plague or any other killer i'm in the game with, how is that my fault, problem, or issue? i didn't put them in my game. i didn't award them the rank needed to be put into my game.. i honestly never would have if it was up to me because they aren't skilled enough to deserve it.
while you are correct that i will ultimately go down at some point in a lot of cases, i need to then depend on my team to keep me in the game. if my team is not skilled enough to keep me in the game then i'm the loser in the scenario anyway because again my team is not skilled enough to keep me in the game..
sorry but there's not many other ways of looking at it..
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I cleanse unless it's clear nobody else is. I don't really care if it makes her stronger, it's more fun.
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The salt is real...XD
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I tend to not cleanse but if someone else does (ESPECIALLY if they do it before they're even fully broken...) then it's a free for all. I'll at least stop puking all the time so I might be able to hide from her while she has her chunky vomit so someone else can get destroyed instead 😉
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I tend not to cleanse; it gives The Plague a lot of power, and generally you end up being infected too soon afterwards again
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I've played quite a few matches as plague, and I gotta say I LOVE it when the survivors don't cleanse. Keep in mind the plague has an offering that shows her your aura whenever you puke.
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Or do what you want.
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And that offering is probably her best add on...XD
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Yes survivors, Please don't cleanse against Plague, I've come to rely on the idea that queuing up as Plague means I get a match long OP version of NOED. Why is it OP? True NOED gives a movement speed boost and insta-downs, but it only lasts for 2 minutes at most during the endgame, even shorter than that if it gets found and cleansed, or is countered by survivors doing bones all game till no totems are left.
Plague's sickness on the other hand lasts all game long if survivors don't cleanse, makes them all 1 shot down-able, and instead of getting a movement speed boost she gains insane tracking ability since survivors become easier to hear (despite packing IW), and easier to see with the bright green fart cloud emanating from them at all times. On top of all this, they can't counter it by cleansing totems, and if they cleanse at fountains its not long before they're sick again. The best part about all of this however is that Survivors WILLINGLY choose to be in this state all game! 🤣
I love it when survivors choose not to cleanse, and take full advantage of it every time! Survivors have this belief that staying 1 shot down-able all game is preferable to giving her ranged damage that can be evaded with walls and objects, which is ridiculously amusing IMO. Keep Staying sick survivors, you make my job as Plague so much easier that way! 😜
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I support the strawpoll idea partly because, as OP said, it gives us the actual data on what people think, but also mostly because it's not just rehashing old topics from a few days or weeks ago, which happens far too much on these forums.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/83574/the-plague-to-cleanse-or-not-to-cleanse/p1
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As soon as one person cleanses, all bets are off. You won’t see me going up against a corrupt purge plague while broken. That’s just asking for death.
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91 votes and counting, this is going great.
Obviously the sample size is too small for anything definitive, but I think it's safe to say most people active in the forums agree that there is indeed a right time and place to cleanse. Either because someone did it, or gens are done.
If behaviour twitted this strawpoll, I wonder what the results would be...🤔
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props! not sure why that's so hard to see for so many people :)
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if everyone who played the game took the poll, i imagine looking at the results would be about the same feeling as that first time you get to use bond and you realize nobody else in the game is doing anything ever.. :)
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Imo it's really silly to cleanse against Plague midgame.. You will get infected and broken within 1 minute anyway. Only cleanse at the end of needed.
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Players like you give me super free 4k's as Plague, so thanks!
Putting your team at an extreme disadvantage and claiming your way is the best way...yikes. What rank do you play at that this strategy works for you?
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all ranks.. and you're welcome.. even tho i've never seen you personally in the fog, if the killer doesn't get any scoring events or fun, neither do i, and that's a very boring game.
i suspect you're just someone who doesn't like to cleanse, trying to say "thanks for the free 4ks" or whatever, but even if you're not legit, you're welcome.
i'm not trying to play boring uneventful games at any ranks, and i think that if you are, that's cool for you too :) if however you're trying to actually enjoy the game and have a good time, that's done thru scoring events. a game without sweet scoring events is just a waste of time imo.
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Yikes, console. They'd be as angry if you did totems, calling it a waste of time that compromises the team's escape, I bet
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So you're tanking your team's chances of escape so you can get safer unhook farming points, all under the guise of having fun. You may be having fun in those games, giving the killer free downs and kills, but again, your teammates aren't.
And if you are worried about the killer not getting scoring points, well, that's a rank issue. Good plagues don't need pity cleanses...1 cleanse can mean survivors simply lose.
If I saw you in my game and I was a killer I would only go for you first because you ruined your team's game, and if I was on your team as survivor I wouldn't be having fun.
Sorry for being a little harsh, but like I said before, cleansing immediately against plague is on par with dropping every pallet immediately in the first chase of the game. Your teammates will hate you and not have fun. Killers probably love you though!
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"You may be having fun in those games, giving the killer free downs and kills, but again, your teammates aren't."
--understand me when i say this. you are reversing what i am saying for some silly reason. yes, we have agreed that when you are having fun hiding and not cleansing, trying to rush objectives and leave me dying, i am not having fun. when you see me cleanse, you aren't. the difference is, you care, i don't. :)
"Good plagues don't need pity cleanses...1 cleanse can mean survivors simply lose."
--maybe that survivor is in a game that they don't possess the skills to be in.. perhaps if they learned to play against the plague instead of hiding from her, everything would be okay for them too :).
"If I saw you in my game and I was a killer I would only go for you first because you ruined your team's game, and if I was on your team as survivor I wouldn't be having fun."
--good news! i don't hide, and i'm bright red and white, or some other super bright color. a lot of killers do come for me non stop, and i enjoy it because that is what you are supposed to do when you are playing a game where a killer chases a survivor. :)
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Cleansing against plague and then claiming other survivors aren't good enough to be in the game if they go down after...hahahhaha. That's rich.
The only strategy that works against good plagues is to do gens (who said anything about hiding...? Even if you wanted to hide, you can't effectively while you are broken) and prolong any chase you get into.
Cleansing allows plague to punish survivors hard...period. It's not even debatable.
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It's not that everyone wants to but doesn't want to be the first, it's that the benefit of not cleansing is lost as soon as she's able to get corrupt.
Now, you go down in one hit AND she can hit from range.
Once that first person cleanses it's in your best interest to cleanse too, or you just become a very easy mark.
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Also, having played a lot of Plague in the last few weeks, you are the person I love having in my games.
I just keep getting you sick, keep letting you run off, and you keep making my game easier and easier by cleansing.
The people that don't understand how fun and easy plague is when someone cleanses and forces the rest of the team to are the ones that single-handedly win the game for her.
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if you keep getting me sick and i keep running off it sounds like i'm having a pretty good time in your game as well :) not sure what your point is, friend. :)
again, if you think it's fun to mow down everyone else in the game while i loop you around stuff and run away, i don't see how that's a negative for me in any way. "dip" :)
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Pretty simple really, just cos you think you're a looping god doesn't mean you win chases.
Worst comes to worst your team gets mown down by poor decision making, then I just have to find the hatch before survivor #3 dies.
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i'm sorry something about that offends you. GET GOOD <#3 :)
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He's just a selfish survivor who thinks he is much better than he is. Being a good survivor is not only about looping well, it's also about good decision making. I can get chased with the best of them, but if I cleansed every time like this guy does, I would be considered a terrible survivor.
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