Ebony Moris should go too
My opinion, Ebony Moris are unhealthy for this game. I also, find them greatly unfun to go against and a waste of time because everything you do in the match means nothing because they'll just kill you on the spot.
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As long as SWF exists, so should moris.
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I think they're a welcome edition for disposing of toxiods who deserve their game ending eg baggers of the tea, clickers of the flashlight.
Also the killer gets less blood points for Mori against hooking.
And finally, you take away Mori...they're have to rename the 'killers' as 'sacrificers' as only a few select perks and Michael Myers would have the ability to have the killer actually kill.
On the subject, should we also remove Michael Myers' tier 3 Tombstone add-on? He doesn't even have to hook a survivor once in order to end them.
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I said EBONY moris not ivory or Cypress, ebony Moris are the problem.
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Well Ebony comes in handy when you have two or more mischief makers. A real special gift for a swf clickybag squad.
It's always comforting to keep it in your back pocket.
I rarely see a killer Ebony a whole team however.
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I suggest something better. Why do we need killers? Let survivors spawn without a killer. No challenge and no stress
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That's quite flawed, but... I honestly think Ebony's should go and SWF should be balanced around rankings. Gray-Green - 3 and 4 stack's allowed, Purple-Red 2 stacks and below. I think a complete rework or removal of SWF would be unhealthy.
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I somewhat agree with this actually. I know you meant it sarcastically, but a mode where we can walk around maps alone as survivor or killer could let us have chances at trying to learn how to optimize looping or, with certain killers, find niche little areas where a trap might be useful, or a good place to stay undetected.
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Haha, implying survivor is challenging, or stressful.
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Yeah like a practice mode
I mean against viable killers and moris
Of course for the other killers it's like a walk in the park
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I'd be fine with Ebony's being reworked / removed if Instaheals, BNPs, and keys receive a similar treatment.
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BNP’s already got a rework. They aren’t as powerful as they once were. They are fine as it is.
Keys I somewhat agree with.
Styptic Agents are fine. The syringe is the main issue I feel like.
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Don't take away my Ebony Mori's! I've come to rely on them as the fastest and funnest way to de-rank back down to the less frustrating ranks! Mori's and Instant down add-on's/perks/abilities are a guaranteed way to earn decent enough BP while totally screwing over your rank progress on purpose.
The reason for this is because the Chaser emblem is Scored by chases won, and it counts each strike on a survivor as a won chase, so by using instant downs, you end chases too quickly and only get half of the points towards ranking up. Same goes for Mori's when it comes to the Malicious and Devout scoring events that require you to not only kill survivors but also hook each one 3 times for maximum scoring potential before you kill them. With Mori's and instant downs though, you can play a shorter match, earn around 20k in BP, but achieve "Entity Displeased" and lose a pip.
They're a great tool for those times when you've reached high ranks but just about every match you endure feels less like fun, and more like a testament to your masochism. At those times you may find yourself less inclined to play because its just become too frustrating, and of course you're tempted to de-rank, but you may also want to save face doing it. You're not gonna be a toxic turd who waits for 1 min into the match and DC's, and you don't want to be a pathetic killer that just sits in a corner invisible all match until its over either. That's not fun for anyone, so Mori's and instant downs become the best answer. They allow you to have fun and De-rank at the same time! You take that away from us, and what choices will us more casual players really have?
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Killers just need to understand when bringing an ebony mori is sensible and when it is a mistake. They are relatively rare and should be saved for 3 or 4 man SWFs not wasted on solos.
Using ebony moris on solos will give you fewer bloodpoints and emblem points.
Using ebony moris on SWFs will give you a chance for MORE bloodpoints and emblem points because if you don't bring them, you are getting genrushed.
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literally neither side is stressful. why do people say this. do they forget dbd is a game?
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If moris go so should keys
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@Gardenia every time you are active on the forum you start these posts about removing everything your don't like from the game.
You made your opinion clear enough
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You can survive a mori.......because keys exist
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Agreed with OP. Moris are what Spare parts used to be. They either need to be nerfed or removed tbh. Same goes for insta heals.
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Well, doing the purpose of the game counters moris, stealth
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I agree, they are OP.
They shouldn't make you de-pip in my opinion, and they should provide a Bloody Party Streamers bonus so the killer plays with their food longer. :)
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You know they said Ebony Mori right? Not Ivory, or Cypress. Plus a lot of perks that give the option to kill survivors by working for it. We even have a killer who's add-ons are based around killing survivors with their bare hands, and even though they can't Mori them we still have killers who can destroy survivors solo que or SWF in a matter of seconds. How much do you damn need?
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Thats so wrong. Yikes.
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Not really no, keys allow a free escape while Mori's allow free kills
An eye for an eye really
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No. You said the mori is counterable by keys. Thats just wrong.
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I never said counterable, I just said survivable
You want to counter moris?
Do the purpose of this game and hide!
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Make Ebony Mori so you can only do it if they are on their last hook. >:)
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Then why run a mori, it will be safer to hook the survivor than mori
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Ever play against a good Nurse or an AB Spirit? That ######### makes you cry.
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Yes bc it's totally feasible that you won't get hooked at all that game.
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One of 3 different things should happen..
1. You can only Mori a survivor on death hook.
2. You need to hook every Survivior at least once before you can Mori anyone.
3. If an Ebony Mori is burned, Decisive strike is reverted to its pre-rework state but the skill check comes at the same time it does now, in order to prevent the killer from juggling. And every Survivior should benefit from the obsession version of Decisive 1.0.
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Sorry but there's a long as it's still possible to run until 4 insta heals I'm not down for getting rid of ebony mori
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Uh no, takes four gens to spawn the hatch, mori's don't take no where near as much time. Ebony mori needs to go its busted, or atleast make it like devour hope and make the killer do something to earn that.
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Incorrect, depending on the total amount of survivors alive is when hatch will spawn
3 survivors, 1 gen remains
2 survivors, 2 gens remain
4 survivors, 0 gens remain
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I'm down for nerfing Moris. Not just Ebony, but Ivory too. One is usually all it takes to flip a game on its head.
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Nah.
I like my moris. Great way to let off steam. I don't mind facing them either.
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Whats BNP
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Brand New Part
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BNP isn't op, im fine with that add on.
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You think they aren't fun so they should go? Well what if killers find them to be fun? When I play as killer I don't think flashlights are very fun so why don't we take those away? I play both killer and survivor but I have to say that the overwhelming sense of entitlement by survivor mains is the worst part of this game. Unfortunately that's the one thing the devs can't fix. People need to realize that all the elements of the game are well thought out. Some work better than others. But if you started cherry picking out ever tiny thing that people complain about you would end up with a broken and boring mess. Maybe try to think beyond yourself and look at the big picture. This game is overall fun and entertaining otherwise you wouldn't be playing it.
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I know, thats just what BNP stands for
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Maybe try not to get so worked up over my opinion, my reasoning of why they should be removed isn't because it's "unfun". Its because killing multiple people in succession with only 1 hook makes for a very short game where both the killer and Survivors don't have much of a match.
I'm not the only one who shares these sentiments. And also, moris are fine it's the ebony Mori that is problematic.
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Isn't the objective of the killer to kill the survivors as fast as possible?
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Sacrificing them, yes. To serve the Entity. Not hooking them once then murdering them starving the Entity.
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*Looks at category for getting Kill*
Thats the sacrifice category
It may only give out 1000 points but still
You have reduced the amount of survivors completing the objective quickly
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I don't see what the problem is with having a shorter match every now and then. I'm assuming you start another one as soon as it's over. This whole game is about variety of gameplay. Having moris and some shorter matches keeps players on their toes and ads to variety.
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I did make a Topic about this long time ago .
I don't think the problem in Mori itself .. but The percentage of it showing on the bloodweb . I had nea on P1 lvl 50 and ACE P3 LVL 50 and Progressed many bloodwebs yet I've not yet come across a Rainbow Map while on killers I've got Ebony mori show up relatively every few bloodwebs and I got Stacks of it . 😑 I don't think Devs are even gonna touch that like the percentage or odds of it showing up . Eventhough it says Ultra rare .
I wouldn't remove it from the Game but make it so that players won't be able to stack 20 or 50 of those n bring them everytime they hit Red Ranks .
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Many survivors items need balanced like insta heals and keys and super gen tool box's before or at the same time ebony's get nerfed
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Moris should go?
The Keys can no longe open hatch and insta heals need to go too.
End of story
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You could offer a suggestion to nerf/rework them. Also I’d be pretty mad if my 67 ebony moris disappeared one day.
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@Gardenia sounds like you should take a break from the game cause all of your nerf posts are getting ridiculous.
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