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Am i only one who think Demogorgon still meh even with 2 Ultra rare(Pink) addon?

DingDongs
DingDongs Member Posts: 684
edited September 2019 in General Discussions

Huntress and Clown got 1 hit projectile and Shape got slow NOED with no totem

Demogorgon got.... Can see aura of all survivors but only injured survivors and only while you're teleporting and another one is lunge can break pallets like legion

Can't tell if Demo pink addon are just weak or other killer pink addon are way too strong


Just saying

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  • FishFry247
    FishFry247 Member Posts: 696

    I'm gonna say it, he isn't a terrible killer. I've already got to rank 1 with him plus the hotpatch coming soon is good, But I would like to be able to recyclable portals even if it takes time to get rid of them

  • FriendlyGuy
    FriendlyGuy Member Posts: 2,768

    He needs some QoL changes like @FishFry247 mentioned, but i feel like he's okay.

  • purplerain
    purplerain Member Posts: 92
  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627

    If they put the pallet break into base kit, I would give him another ultra rare like "inactive portals trigger killer instinct as well". That would be pretty strong. And I think the other ultra rare is pretty strong too. Auras are the most useful information you can get. If you run it with sloppy or thana to keep them injured for some time, this is pretty strong. I mean, getting info whenever you feel lost?

    I think the portals are much stronger than other reusable traps. And it is pretty good map control. So far Im quite ok with this killer, the only thing that should be harder would be closing the portals. It happens quite often that portals are closed right after you used them. And noticing that there are survivors is almost always too late to get there in time to protect them. If you try to, you mostly have to "waste" one of your portals.

    Like the hag, if a flashlight is in play, she is pretty much done with the game. Just on the Demogorgon all survivors can seal it by basekit. And you can't really hide your protals well, they are pretty obvious. So for the sealing there should be some timing adjustment. Like make it last way longer, but save the progress or something, recovering by time.

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,020

    The aura reading is not great, and the other one you are stunned too long with

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627

    @TheHoodedOne kinda agree on the second one. Regarding that the chainsaws recover more quickly and have an insta down power... the Demo should also not be stunned that long.

    But maybe also pallets are just free hit then, cuz you have a lunge attack, which might make it free hits. Sure, no insta down, but chases in total might not last very long if your only hope is windows behind corners.

    Compared to chainsaws, you at least have to reduce some distance to make use of your power

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited September 2019

    It's because his ultra rares are just meh like most the recent killers. They don't generally make powerful ultra rares anymore. They also have this obsession with putting heavy negative effects on them that just doesn't make any sense like the new ultra rare they are giving him. This is why most killers best addons aren't their ultra rares which shouldn't be the case. They are ultra rares, they are supposed to be very strong. Most their downsides are so extreme that it makes them not worth using.

    If they made it so you could move your camera around during portals then seeing injured would be decent but that just isn't the case for some reason. Not sure how having his lunge break a pallet be an ultra rare ever even made it past the white board, that just sounds bad at concept.

  • Blueberry
    Blueberry Member Posts: 13,671
    edited September 2019

    This is why he feels like just a worse Billy to me. Both do very similar things.

    Demi lunge is slightly faster, but Billy's you have much more control over it and can flick the direction while also being a one shot. With how easy demi lunge is to dodge I wouldn't even think that was broken if it had a one shot as well. Maybe that shoulda been the ultra rare instead.

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703

    I get pleasing results with him. For me, he's a good'un.

  • BlueFang
    BlueFang Member Posts: 1,379

    I think the only really good thing about Demo is that he's a point machine


    Even if all four survivors escape you can finish with 32,000 leaderboard points


    Better farmer than the Doctor

  • PolarBear
    PolarBear Member Posts: 1,899

    A lot of ultra-rare add-ons are just gimmicks. Both of Hag's or Pig's ultra-rare add-ons don't make them op.

    I just see ultra-rare add-ons as add-ons that do more than just change a few numbers here and there like most other add-ons.

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627


    Actually cant be. You cant get 8000 sacrifice points if you dont kill all 4 survivors

  • TWiXT
    TWiXT Member Posts: 2,063

    I think its funny when you use Nurses calling, and traverse the upside down passing healing survivors, you can also see their auras. It's kinda a lesser version of the Ultra rare that lets you see them if they're injured, but it's been very useful regardless. The Ultra Rares would've been more interesting if they changed his power mechanics a bit, Like silencing his travel through the upside down for more jumpscares, letting you eliminate portals to place them elsewhere, decreasing shreds range but considerably reduce its successful attack cooldown for chain shredding, or Make portals slower to traverse, but activated as soon as you place them and increase their survivor detection range to 24m.

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627

    Increase to 24m?? Place 3 of them and you pretty much cover the whole map!

  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    Both Ultras should have been base, the Pallet one we got which is powerful and now we're stuck with other one that isn't strong and hard to use as you need to be facing who is injured while you teleport. The information is nice but not game breaking or even good as you aren't even traveling to where that person is.

  • BBQnDemogorgon
    BBQnDemogorgon Member Posts: 3,615

    Demogorgon is a great killer if you're good with him.

    His add-ons won't carry mastering his base kit is important.

    Shred recovery is probably his best add-on set

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    In my opinion they're scared of ultra rares (or even strong add ons) these days. BNP had to be nerfed, Moonlight offerings got deleted. There's always calls for Iridescent heads, Prayer Beads, Redhead's Pinky Finger etc to be nerfed, and each side basically unanimously wants the others' Instas, keys and moris nerfed into the ground.

    Basically since Legion, we haven't seen them willing to be daring at all with add ons in general. There are FAR more basic stat increases in the new killers compared to older ones, and far less that change how their power works for the match, and anything considered strong has immense drawbacks.

    Personally I understand the position, as it's a lot of work already to get a killer into a decent position balance-wise without considering a bunch of radically different add ons, but sadly it makes them very boring over long periods of time. Like Plague, unless you run the Iridescent Seal she'll always play in the exact same way with minor differences.