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How long you should just learn...

I mean...damn, survivor how long someone must learn basic things, like how to juke easy nurse blink lul, players have more than +6k hrs and they still don't know how to do it. Ridiculous...

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  • Angelicus23
    Angelicus23 Member Posts: 2,547

    Nurse has counterplay, the problem is that it's the most difficult killer to survive against. I still need more skill against her and I have almost 1,000 hours

  • Gamzello
    Gamzello Member Posts: 828

    PS4 players (or console players overall) don't have this problem because Nurse barely exists lmao...even in the high ranks.

    I would hate to play against the Nurse though.

  • noneofyourbusiness
    noneofyourbusiness Member Posts: 532
    edited September 2019

    Ironic is tru saying "nurse have counterplay" when he play against her on lerys( hardest map for nurses) or when shes just bad, bc most nurses even on r1 pc they are really bad

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,223

    As a Nurse main, I've gone against survivors more than capable of wasting my time. Playing against a Nurse requires skills greater than running left or right around objects. Map knowledge, movement, blink distance to time, and reading your opponent's moves. Skills that reflect true skill. Not this merry go round with other killers.

    You survivor need to realize the power role is not on the killer side.

  • Kasaki
    Kasaki Member Posts: 155

    This is false there are some godly nurse mains on PS4 just not near as many as PC , I've ran into a few on PS4 that would make you believe they're on a PC

  • Kasaki
    Kasaki Member Posts: 155

    It's not even that she's difficult or that any killer is for that matter , most people who play survivor are terrible at the game I hate to say it but it's true, if you play solo at rank 1 for a whole day straight you will see some of the dumbest people, I've come to the conclusion that survivor is the power role but the fact that 90 percent of the player base don't do it right makes it seem far worse than it is , one person can cause the whole team to end up dying over a stupid mistake , I swear if I had 3 other clones of myself I would survive every match and I don't consider myself the best survivor at all but randoms are just that stupid it seems , or at least the ones I always get are

  • ElusivePukka
    ElusivePukka Member Posts: 1,599

    Juking a skilled Nurse isn't a basic skill, and saying otherwise just says you're out of touch. Juking a newbie? That's something that can be learned in a day or less.

    Nurse has counterplay, but it requires lateral thinking skills similar to juking a Spirit without the right build. Someone distracted or off their game isn't actually going to be consistent with it, even knowing what to do, because an optimal survivor against a suboptimal killer has a tendency to mindgame themselves if they're overconfident.

  • justarandy
    justarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    Tru3 always was referring to base kit Nurse and NOT Nurse with additional blinks or range addons like in the video.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,517

    The devs already announced their going to be changing the addons, and the OP said nothing about addons. It would be silly for me to ASSUME OP is upset about addons instead of what they actually typed.

  • justarandy
    justarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    I have to agree. When I play survivor I play mostly solo and it's one of the most annoying and tilting experience I have with DbD. Not because of the killer being op, hell no. But solely because of my team mates being absolutely stupid and don't deserve to be rank 1 at all. Survivors are the power role only when you have decent team mates. Even you have 3 very good survivors and only 1 potatoe, it's gonna be a poop show trying to carry him with against a strong kilker. And usually you will find only 1 good random mate in your lobby at best.

    I wish ranking up would be more skillbased and not just a participation trophy to keep the noobs happy.

  • justarandy
    justarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    I think I don't understand you lol. What was the point you were trying to make? I'm confused.

  • Androuruguayo99
    Androuruguayo99 Member Posts: 55

    Nurse has counterplay, just don`t get hit...easy

  • Groxiverde
    Groxiverde Member Posts: 767

    You are wrong. Tru3 says that nurse without addons has counterplay. But nurses with good addons have almost 0 counterplay.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886
    edited September 2019

    Nurse has counterplay, but a lot of it depends on the skill level of the nurse. I can juke and evade low level nurses all game long depending on the terrain.

    Green to purple doable, depends on the player. I have also juked red nurses before.

    It really depends. There's a certain point where you can't evade or juke nurse because they won't fall for your feints and mindgames.

    The best maps to screw around with nurse are the ones with lots of obstacles. Wooded areas with lots of trees in Autohaven Wreckers for instance is the ideal spot. If the nurse isn't at my skill level I can evade her forever. If she's smart she'll stop using her power and M1 me, and I down quick because I suck at looping.

    For juking to evasion the best spots are jungle gyms.

    Strangely enough, I find it easy to run Nurse around, but I suck at looping.

    Naturally, the really good nurses can beat me, but a lot of nurses aren't that good and can be at least juked and evaded once or twice before they catch on to what I'm doing.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,223
    edited September 2019
  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    You posted a video of a 3 blink nurse - most of the community is in agreement that the 3 blink nurse is broken

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,223

    You can play around three blinks. Four and five blinks is just stupid.

  • justarandy
    justarandy Member Posts: 1,711

    Keep in mind that addons Play a big role in juking a nurse. Even a mediocre Nurse will catch with multiple blink addons and even a nurse who misjudged hee 1St blink will catch up again with the 2nd blink when range addons are used.

    Rarely Nurse players will play without addons, so it might "mud" the reality of Nurse having no counterplay.

    Don't get me wrong, sometimes you just can't do anything in certain situations. But the same applies with Trapper who places a trap at the only pallet/window you can reach in that area whole being injured: the chase is over, no matter what.

    But I can see where people are coming from. Sometimes you can read a nurse like a book and other times you can't even react with dead hard because she blinks and attacks so fast that you haven't see that coming and it feels weird. So I can understand why people see Nurse as unbalanced.

    However, I personally can deal with most BASEKIT Nurse players as long as my team mates aren't rank 20s.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886


    Three blinks is doable. Harder, but doable.

    Four or Five blinks cannot be evaded unless the nurse is an idiot.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,223
  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    Yeah if it's basekit it's relatively easy. Only the really good nurses give me fits if she doesn't have addons.

  • michaelrandom27
    michaelrandom27 Member Posts: 100

    To the people saying Nurse is easy to juke, can you send me a link to your Twitch page and show me how it's done? I want to learn from people who are better than someone who has 6,000 hours of play time.

  • Mr_K
    Mr_K Member Posts: 9,223

    Sounds like a lot of lobby time. 😑

    Not every good play is on a streaming service.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886
    edited September 2019

    I don't twitch or stream.

    I'd like to show how it's done, but I am clueless at streaming hahah. I don't have NVidia Shadow and my PC is a little clunky so I don't enable stuff like that to get better framerates.

    I can explain it a bit, but there are two different kinds of maneuvers you do against Nurse: the juke and the dodge.

    Juking means throwing the opponent off your trail so you can lose him. This is way to disengage from the chase. This is easiest to do in jungle gyms and similar places with lots of high obstacles and multiple paths. You can also do in in the tall corn and Yamaoka estate but it's harder. Same basic concept as juking any killer -- you run around the obstacles over and over, going to the sides or the middle, guessing where the killer will follow. Then when you've put some distance you either slink away or run fast in a blind side area.

    Perks that help a lot in juking are: Iron Will, No Mither, Fixated and Urban Evasion

    It's easier to do against Nurse because Nurse's power disorients here and makes her fly around. So if she guesses what way you went wrong, she puts a lot of distance between you and her and basically does your job for you. She is by far the easiest killer to juke and many jukes that don't work on other killers work on her. Most other killers are harder to juke because they are focused on walking right after you.

    The best time to go for the juke is right after she finishes her blinks, when she cries out after stunning herself. When you hear that sound that's when you make your move and go for the disengage.

    Usually though before you can juke you need to dodge her around and frustrate her a bit. Especially if you are in an open and "unsafe" area.

    Dodging basically means doing feints to mess with her prediction when she tries to blink attack you. This is something unique to nurse as no other killer lets you dodge in this manner. The idea is to run in one direction, then as you hear her charging her power you change direction, preferably behind an obstacle.

    For dodging generally you want thin obstacles around you. You don't need palettes and you don't need perks. Trees like the one on the Autohaven Garage map are ideal. These are great because even if she can see you, you can quickly dodge behind a tree after she does her blink, and then when she lands to deliver her strike you are right behind the obstacle, and her attack hits the tree or obstacle and not you. Nurses get easily frustrated when this happens, lesser skill ones get rattled and then you can just easily do it over and over until you get to terrain that lets you juke.

    Skilled nurses keep their calm and will eventually pick up on your movements, so it won't last long and you need to find a juke area quick.


    I'm sorry I wish I had a video to show you how it's done, but I don't have streaming and recording set up on my laptop. But that should explain the general idea to you.

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    LOL I wrote my response in good faith, now re-reading it I realize it was sarcasm.

    Now I feel dumb, someone just kill me. Preferably nurse.

    And this just underlines how gamers today have become such sheep, they think the only way to play a game is how their favorite streamer does it. Their word is law, if they say it isn't possible it isn't. If they say black is white, the sheep believe.

  • LordGlint
    LordGlint Member Posts: 8,517

    Which part am I wrong on? That tru3 says nurse has counterplay or that it's ironic to use this video?