The plague's red vomit is one of the most unfair things in this game.
Is ridiculous, is imposible to juke, it can hit you from a massive distance, it lasts long enough to actually be able to hit everybody.
If it was good for 1 hit it would be fair. Ridiculously bad design.
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If no one actually cleanses then she never even gets to use it, hence why she's a weak killer that doesn't even get to use her power.
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When she drinks the red puke just play extra careful and hide for a bit.
If you're all getting downed by one red puke fountain you guys are playing too aggressively. It's the same as when Myers hits Level 3. You play a little more carefully than you usually would.
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Ridiculously argument. No cleansing? Sure I'll just star broken and sick the whole game.
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In which case her power now reads: "All Survivors are Broken for the Entire Game and cannot stealth because of green misty aura you can see from a mile away and incessant coughing that 100% counters Iron Will. You also counter Inner Strength, Fixated, Self Care, We'll Make It, Auto-Didact, Second Wind and Botany Knowledge, rendering these perks absolutely useless."
That is actually a really powerful ability.
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Yes. Glad you understand.
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what would you rather have, a one hit melee down, or a long ranged one hit down? cause chances are you're gonna get sick again after cleansing, become broken, then she has her red puke. i'd rather deal with the one hit melee that the ranged.
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You haven't learned how powerful pallet loops and windows are. Being 1 hit from going down is meaningless with how numerous those loops are. You can easily loop her all game and have 5 gens done before you run out of pallets. This is exacerbated by her very tall size which makes her even easier to loop. Your team is also gen rushing even faster because no one is wasting time on healing.
Being injured the entire game is much less dangerous than you think it is. This is illustrated in high rank games where none of the survivors heal because of the reasons I've already mentioned.
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Being injured all game is not as dangerous as you think it is when you know how to properly loop.
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Corrupt Purge is not a one-hit down.
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I'm saying a lot of survivors don't know how to loop.
And you're making silly assumptions about me. I play with No Mither regularly.
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it is when you're broken, which you likely will be because you'll end up getting infected again pretty quick unless you're just not doing anything.
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Everything is one hit if you're broken. So I don't know what you're going on about. Corrupt Purge is not a one-hit down. Period.
Now, if you actually washed your face, maybe you wouldn't be broken? Gettign broken takes a while after getting infected. There's a good chance you're not broken when she uses the red puke.
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"That is actually a really powerful ability."
I made zero assumptions. I went literally by what you posted.
If you were good at looping you would realize that isn't strong like all the other rank 1 survivors and killers have realized. You think it is strong. The only way someone thinks this is strong is if they can't loop well.
This is just using the information you give and doing very basic critical thinking.
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I'm honestly surprised by this thread. I don't believe I've ever seen a "Plague is OP" post in my time here. I really thought it was going to be something like "Plague's red vomit is really gross" when I first glanced at the title and I was gonna be like "yeah, I love it!"
Maybe I'll have to take her for another spin sometime soon.
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Woah woah woah. Hold up. Do my eyes deceive me? Is somebody actually complaining about Vommy Mommy?!
Don't cleanse. If you cleanse, you turn Plague from a M1 killer to a T3 Meyers with Huntress range. Just loop the poor lady. Really, that's all you need to do. She can't do much if nobody cleanses, and has to rely on mistakes by survivors.
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if you play on ormond it's ez to Dodge cause of so many blockers
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How long have you been playing?
Some of us might have been playing longer than you and do just fine with a handicap like that. If you want to ignore the advice of people who've been playing longer than you that's fine, but don't get snarky when we're genuinely trying to help.
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well, i dont play high ranks but this has been my experience any time someone cleanses. but like i said, i dont play high ranks so...
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Plague and unfair in the same sentence, never tough I would live long enough to read this...
My dude, there's a lot of obstacles to avoid corrupt purge. Try to loop her and also, try not to cleanse. That's all. That's simple. If you're doing wrong then the problem is all on you. Plague is by far the most balanced killer in this game and she actually suffer as a killer because her power doesn't help her during chases and corrupt purge is only situational, it depends of survivors. Being broken can be dangerous but the game offers so many tools do deal with it.
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I'm referring to this part:
Being injured all game is not as dangerous asyou think it is when you know how to properly loop.I apologize if that wasn't supposed to refer to me specifically and was just a normal part of the sentence construction.
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I don't play in high ranks either.
I try to stay low if possible, but I usually end up around purple automatically.
Actually in high ranks that's where people prefer to stay broken the entire match. That's where you have survivors who are good enough to loop that they can play the entire match broken with little problem, and they're all running no-heal builds.
But if you're not playing in high ranks maybe you should start cleansing. It is definitely better to cleanse against Plague if you do not know how to loop at a very high level.
If you can't loop but you're using streamers advice and following their teaching not to cleanse against plague, stop it. You're doing yourself a disservice. Cleanse and get better at looping first before trying to go broken the entire match.
I have seen way too many matches in purple and green ranks where survivors don't cleanse against plague and go down in seconds when Plague finds them (which is easy to do because of all their coughing and that green sludge aura).
If you can't loop her, for goodness sake wash your face.
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Object of Obsession on Trapper is unfair, deciding not to give Plague her vomit is fair.
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It wasn't referring to you specifically, it was just a general statement.
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Then I apologize in that case.
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It's okay, no worries
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You are not helping by telling a newbie not to cleanse against Plague.
A lot of veterans seem to lose sight of the bigger picture and forget that not everybody can play at their level. Only good loopers can afford not to cleanse against plague.
New players who are not good at looping should cleanse, because otherwise they are making the game a lot easier for Plague.
As you yourself have pointed out, it's pretty obvious that the OP is a new player who isn't very good at looping.
The correct advice is to tell them to be careful and hide when they hear Plague's vomit purge sound, play less aggressively and wait out the vile purge duration. Then learn looping when they can, and when they're good enough don't cleanse.
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@DudeDelicious Have you read this thread yet?
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If you use no mither then it should be okay with being sick.
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Don't you even....dare. Not my baby...
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First off, it's not one of the most unfair things in the game as you put it, this already tells me you haven't played the game long enough to know about nurse add-ons, iri heads, and experienced very good billies and hags.
Also, her corrupt Purge barely lasts 70 secs with addons, so just hide or stop being donkeys and running amuk. For just that short time.
You need to rethink this post, the nerve of you. I'm so glad @DudeDelicious and I main Plague to shut this stuff down when we see it. Don't complain about her she doesn't need a nerf, you just need to buff your gameplay.
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People complaining about plague....lol
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Well instead of posting a thread saying how it's so unfair, they should ask for tips or maybe not be snarky when people try to offer advice.
They'll learn soon she's not as unfair as they think...
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if only there was a way you could DENY her EVER GETTING IT (unless she uses certain addons) O WAIT YOU CAN BY NOT CLEANSING. stop your crying you survivor rank 20 main
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One thing I see a lot of lower ranks survivors do is cleanse right before unhooking another sick survivor, wich immediatly infect them again. Thats a bad move. You just gave ammunition to the Plague and gained nothing in return.
If you really want to cleanse think carefully about when and how you do it. A single survivor cleansing put all his sick teammates in danger. Multiples survivors cleansing at once is the way to go. If enough coordinated cleanse happen you can potentially reset the fountains wich will give Plague her Corrupt Purge yes, but she will have 4 healthy survivors to deal with.
Also you should prioritize remote Pools of Devotion in map corners or near completed generators that will be less convenient for Plague to use.
But all that being said the optimal play is still not to cleanse at all.
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A. Be stealthy (Holy S*** a groundbreaking concept)
B. Learn to loop and (here's the kicker): Just don't cleanse. Simple.
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Not really. There are two kinds of people who use No Mither. Those who want a challenge, and those who use it for Stealth. (and for resilience)
The green goo around you and the coughing makes it impossible to stealth, so being infected is a death sentence because now you are broken AND can't stealth for squat.
I had to learn to loop as well to counteract this weakness, but losing that extra hit is a big deal and makes me a lot easier to kill when looping. I'm not exactly a god looper.
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Ahhh. Now get it. You’re new here. Practice looping her, once you can do that you will just feel bad for her. In fact, once you understand how to drag out chases you won’t find more than a few killers OP.
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Just don't cleanse. However, if you are playing solo, there will always be that one person who will cleanse
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"you're new here" says the guy with 32 posts?
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Lol yes, this is EXACTLY what good survivors do against plague. You say it like its some kind of big deal but this happens literally every match in higher ranks, go watch any red rank streamer game with plague in it. Even purples know you're not supposed to cleanse.
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Yes but what is good about it?
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Given all the obstacles on a map, Plague's red vomit can be rendered pretty useless, especially on indoor maps. I become an almost strictly M1 killer on indoor maps with Plague.
But yeah, when she gets the red vomit, best thing to do is go into super-stealth mode until it passes, because that renders it completely useless.
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I have quite a few hours in and only have like 70 posts on this forums, he is over 2x that. unless he spends more time on the forums then playing the game he has similar hours and is not a new player
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Define "quite a few hours"
And actually if you're like me you can rack up a lot of posts on the forum. I just alt-tab whenever I'm on hook or waiting for lobby to load. You know I'm busy playing when I'm busy posting here.
Also, just because a player isn't "new new" doesn't mean he's a skilled player or knows how to play properly. 100 hours in this game is just a baby.
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You can still use stealth or counter her Corrupt Purge in a similar way you do with Huntresses hatchets ( break line of sight, crouch behind loops ) or you can try to stun her with a pallet, which also removes her Corrupt Purge.
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Plauge is gives survivor a doomed if you do/doomed if you dont situation, where you're broken and 1 hit the whole game, or you are vulnerable to her corrupt purge. As others have said above, either play more immersed/careful when she has the corrupt, or coordinate your cleanses so nobody is broken when she has it.
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The survivors have the authority over the Plague. They can make the game difficult and irritating for themselves, or they can make the Plague's life impossible, hence why she's considered weak because many people know not to cleanse.
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I prefer reading posts, not complaining about silly things. Also not a guy but thank you for your reply. It’s been very impactful.
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Don't cleanse
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The biggest issue I feel new players have against Plague, is looping. They don't have that aspect down to an art form, yet, so it makes Plague seem to be a bigger threat than she is, the poor dear. She's strong against new players because her power has two aspects, and forces them to think differently than most other killers.
Once you get comfortable looping, you hold more power over her than she over you. Yes, her Vile breaks everybody, but then she still has to chase you down and hit you. If you're good at looping, you can elongate the chase to ungodly levels, at least by a killers standpoint. Remember, an objective survivors all follow it to waste a killers time to get gens done. Because she's an M1 killer (until somebody cleanses), she is forced into long chases. If a gen or two pops during your chase and you haven't been downed yet, consider yourself doing your job.
Now, I hope you disregard everything here and cleanse. Please. As a Vommy Mommy main, I cry on the inside when I play her and they all cleanse at the end of the match. Poor girl needs some love.
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