Let's all press F for nurse
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By pure numbers, survivors MUST outrank killer players by 4:1.
If this were not the case, we would not have games.
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Yes. Because frustrated survivor players will not spend money on items in this game.
And who frustrated survivors the most?
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Haven’t you ever considered the large amount of players playing both sides?
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But nerf all the viable Killers and they'll stop playing, making there be less lobbies
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ZOINKS!
giggles
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Nerf haddonfield , nerf balanced landing so only the first fall only affect the stagger reduction , nerf hawkings with unbalanced landing then we are good.
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That’ll trash BL, the speed boost would activate while you’re staggered.
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There are a lot of folks that play "both sides" but that is irrelevant. At any given moment when this game is active, 80% of the players are playing survivor.
there are more survivor characters, and the monetization scheme MUST be geared toward them, because, at any given moment, 80% of the player base HAS to be playing survivor.
all players will fall into 1 of 3 camps:
-killer "main"
-survivor "main"
-plays both killer and survivor
by marketing to survivor players, you are marketing to you majority player base at any given time (80%, which includes survivor mains and those that play both...so at MINIMUM 66%...this assumes a full third are killer players only)
people that play this game only as killer MUST be in the minority (or there would be no matches).
This is why logically, bhvr must cater to survivors for marketing. I am not blaming them in the least (they have to pay the bills) but would rather people understand that this is the case. Understanding this can allow folks to better understand the choices this company makes
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See my post above. It explains why serving survivor players or those that play both is in BHVRs best interest.
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Nope the speed boost would activate while reducing the stagger but if you are exhausted the stagger reduction is also disabled until you are recovered.
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If 80% of players played survivor then people wouldn’t complain about killer que times
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No killers, no lobbies. You have to keep killers happy too or you don't have a game
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I got you now, wouldn’t be too bad, I guess.
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He will solve the haddonfield issue for example. Vigil may be more used for exemple.
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Oh well, guess we’ll see how it turns out. 2 viable killers at red ranks isn’t so bad I guess.
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I actually like vigil with sprint burst but you’re right, vigil would be more useful.
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You are correct but no match can take place of there is not a 4:1 ratio. Every match that is played (whether there are 10 people online or 100,000) there MUST be 80% survivors.
That means 80% of people playing right now, or ever, have chosen to play survivor.
The fact that this game persists, ensures that there are 4 survivors playing for every killer.
Yes there are wait times but that reinforces the point. Some folks would rather play survivor than wait as killer (they fall into the middle category), thus by marketing to survivors you are not excluding them (but rather including roughly another third of your player base, at least)
This discussion is good, because I almost ALWAYS play killer and would like to believe I am in the majority, but the fact is that there will always be 4 survivors for every 1 killer.
Think of it like this: if 25% of survivors quit, we would not have a single match (only 3 survivors for every killer would play) and killers would wait to fill their q.
If 25% of killers quit, there would be increased queues for survivors, not killers.
Long killer qs means there isn't an abundance of survivors. How can we get more people to play survivor?....
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If survivor que times became long (which they are on PS4 in my experience) giving survivors more bp would fix that but then more people would play survivor on other platforms, fixing que times would be too tricky to work. The 80% thing is still not necessarily true, if the 80% thing was true then killer que times would never be long.
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It is still too early to conclude anything, wait until the changes go live.
My guess is that Nurse would still be (by far) the strongest killer but let us wait and see.
In addition, the mentality of US vs THEM need to stop in this forum. It is not even funny anymore.
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Q times are simole...not enough killers and survivors wait. Not enough survivors and killers wait.
The 4:1 ratio is quite simple too. At any given time in any given match 80% of the people playing MUST be survivors. If this weren't the case, we would never get in game. Now this isn't considering ppl waiting in q (see my first paragraph) but considering you can only q as killer OR survivor, this ratio MUST exist.
It does not take into account dcs (obviously), but for any match to start, 80% of the people playing HAD to pick survivor role (since there is no "random" option).
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Oh ffs I dont wanna hear it. I don't want your guys' #########. Sympathy after the years of being blamed for all the reasons why survivors are OP.
Now that my main is getting nerfed suddenly I get your sympathy after years of being treated like I should have been burned at the stake from both sides? Screw all of you.
The add-on changes are fine, some of them are stupid and useless but whatever. The base kit change needs either scaled back or removed entirely.
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F for Jenner's Last Breath and Anxious Gasp combo. I am anxious to see what playing her on the PTB feels like.
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Oh it’s another one of these Survivors vs Killers thread.
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That's why you buff solo queue to SWF levels. That way everyone will objectively agree on most things without anecdotal experiences, the devs will clearly see what killers need what buffs, etc.
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Nerf her addons OK
Nerf her base kit #########?
F
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A cool down on her blinks?
Why she already has a stun at the end of her Blinks.
She's not even -THAT- hard to beat, once you learn how to play against nurse.
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Good. But that won't happen unless we get pissed about it.
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6 seconds start before the fatigue it's like a 3 seconds recharge
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Stop with this mentality that all survivors want to bully the killers.
This game will never be balanced. If you balance the game around the 5% then the other players will suffer. This isn't a competitive game. It's not going to happen
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You do realize how baised this thread looks like especially since your username and avatar is Spirit? Just a bit ironic
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Yeah, that's probably the best thing they could do. Buff solos to around swf levels and buff the killers
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I'll live, I can still get to Rank 1 just fine without her... In fact, I've never used Nurse to get to Red Rank period in my entire time playing DBD lmao.
But who cares about ranks, the point is that you don't need Nurse to play the game, and this nerf doesn't really change much but makes Nurse a little less ridiculous to face as a Survivor.
And hey, we still have Hill Billy, you know... that other top-tier Killer.
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Yup, that would put a lot of things in order, set bad killers up for an appropiate buff and of course fix solo queue. Survivors would also be able to understand why the tier list is the way it is, there's a fair bit that still don't get it because they don't play with strong SWFs. But they'd have to make pip'ing harder for survivors to compensate.
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I personally think the Nurse was two powerful and the Sprit also
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No, Il Buon Sosis sono io!
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To quote Spongebob- *clears throat*
Here lies the basekit of Spirit- R.I.P
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OP was right
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I’d quote Mr.Krabs but that’d be rude.
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