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Is it bannable to hide Trapper's traps?
So when you place your traps in the ground and survivors cannot see them (e.g. in Autoheaven map, in the Asylumn, in Torment Creek and in Lery's, and in MacMillian and in Yamaoka), they argued with me it is bannable as it is not intended and when you do it over and over again and they fall for the invisible traps multiple times in one match, you can be banned.
Is it true? I am in fear of my Trapper account :( I, for my part can see the trap a "little bit" :)
There are also places where you can see them clearly as killer, but survivors don't (dedicated servers).
Because the survivors still can disarm them... I would argue it is fine?
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No, that's not your fault.
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Using anything to your advantage or as intended is exploitation and is punishable by deletion of pallets.
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Lol xD
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Which is interesting because the creed of the people, who follow the developers words to the letter in some cases for very odd, stupid reasons, will say, "Exploits are bannable." Given all traps should be noticeable, and not an intent of the developers to do so otherwise, it behooves me to believe that this is an exploit, and abusing exploits are bannable.
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Not that I'm aware of, but I'm no mod so take it with a grain of salt.
I know when they were hidable back in the dark times in places like the ironworks or exit gates, it wasn't bannable. They typically don't ban for most exploits - they just fix them.
Frankly, as much as people fall for ones that are in plain sight, it seems pointless to have to exploit and hide them though.
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Not gonna lie, that scares me a little :((
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No, that is rediculous. I main Trapper and the whole idea is to put the traps where they don't expect and then herd them towards them.
Keep doing it. Expand your trapping skill by paying attention to how survivors move in and out of chases. Don't try to trap the whole field. Pick an area with 4 to 5 gens and turn it into a trapped nightmare.
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Seriously though 100000000% not bannable. You're fine doing it. It's just strategic placement.
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Funny thing is, with new PTB update now, there are at least 3+ more spots in the game now, where there weren't before xD I just discovered today^^
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Survivor rule book page 6:
You must place Trappers traps on a open spot where survivors can see and avoid them easily.
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No, you won't be banned; that's ridiculous. My point was just the dissociation between the exegesis of BHVR's position and the comments you're gonna get for your thread.
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Oh snap! Didn't read that beforehand...
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Snap.
I see what you did there.
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Guys, i dont think you understand what he actually means.
He is talking about traps with bugy visibility, so surivor can not see them at all due to glitch/bug.
If this is bannable or not.. i can not tell, but in many games, abusing bugs is in fact a bannable reason.
Maybe a Dev or Mod knows more about this?
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I mean it's the game's fault, if it lets you place a trap there, isn't it??
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It is not bannable because it is not your fault that they are invisible and what do you want to do against that? Trapper is anyway not that great and this bugg is not gamebreaking such as Legions filfthy blade bug or infinit mending. You cant denie players to play how they want to play, in that case, you cant FORBID trappers to put traps at some specific points.
Same issue with myers for an example, there is a bug where the T3 sound and status effect for myers triggers for ALL survivors but he isnt even in T3, he just 99% the stalk, you could say hey it is really powerfull to SIKE the survivors with your T3, and it is a normal bug and noone got punished for that, that bug still exists btw.
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it's fine. They are just salty because they fell into the same trap over and over. You can't get banned for doing anything that's within the game, once you step out of the game (hacking, lag switching, etc.) then you will probably get banned.
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Idk if this is the case here with THIS game, but there are games where you even sign in the tos that you are not allowed to abuse bugs. I think this might be possible the case in DBD.
Remember the Legion bug with the infinite mending? They even posted, that we should report anybody who is abusing it.
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I know what you mean, and in the past also thought that way ("its the games fault") but that is not how things are going.
Remember the Legion bug with the infinite mending? They even posted, that we should report anybody who is abusing it.
I can not say for a fact, but from that case alone, it looks like you can get banned for abusing bugs. While i doubt it, that they will do anything like that after just one violation, i would not test my chances ;-)
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No it's not bannable, and some of these trap spots have been known by BHVR for years but haven't been changed.
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No further confirmation on this has been found (That I can find at the moment) so take my claim with a grain of salt.
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A confirmation has been said below, the one I was referencing couldn't be found by me because it's quite old... But for anyone who's reading this it's been confirmed below to not be bannable.
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Agree but there is a small difference, when you had the infinit mending bug, all survivors are effected by that and your game was unplayable and you could ALWAYS do a 4k as Legion with that.
Some "not even all" traps CAN be invisible at some specific spots where you might get a free kill if you are lucky.
I know exactly what you mean, you shouldnt abuse something like that, but this trapper bug isnt such a big deal to get banned for, I did a invisible trap accidently too for my daily last week, should I get banned for that now? xD
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I would like to see an official source confirming that it is not bannable.
To me it seems like this is clearly not intended, and using it intentionally means you are using an exploit.
While you may be right that currently there are no bans being issued for this, that does not mean that it is allowed, but rather that it is in a grey area and that you use it at your own risk.
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That is simply a question about their tolerance. If BHVR thinks, this bug is fine, and that other one is not then it is. But the truth is, we dont know.
Answers like "its fine, go for it", are not helping, in fact they might actually harm him. Also those who are saying, these bugs are knows for a long time.. that does not mean automatically that it is fine to abuse them.
The only thing we know for sure is, that some bugs are/were bannable, so lets stick with this, as long as we dont have any other infos from BHVR. Or do we have something official?
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Would an @MandyTalk @Peanits or @Rizzo90 help put that suspicion to rest?
If it is ok or not, they'll let us know. But I'm sure it is since its been there for years...
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If they started banning people for playing their buggy game and things "bug" out playing said buggy game.... there wouldn't be a playerbase....
Occasionally they will make an announcement saying, ' hey this is an exploit and if you are caught doing that then you will be banned'. I see nothing about trapper currently. You are fine.
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To eliminate ambiguity:
I am talking about specifically and deliberately using spots where the traps sink into the ground. Not about players who put down traps and just happen to be putting them in one of the spots but players who intentionally put them there because it gives them an advantage.
As you do not have a source backing up your original claim I politely request that you edit your post to include that there is no current confirmation whether or not it is allowed. People may see you have "Trusted" status and think it is official policy when it is not. This is dangerous because they might get banned if you turn out to be wrong.
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Many things are due to bugs but they can be bannable as using exploits due to a bug to gain an advantage is against the game rules.
It does technically fall under the exploit category as you are doing it willingly and in very specific spots on the map. If a lot of reports come in with video evidence it wouldn't surprise me but no one can say for certain apart from a dev. I'd say it's a case of do it at your own risk much like any bug as the stance can change at anytime.
Exploits: Abusing bugs or errors in design to gain a competitive advantage
- Advertising exploits
- Exploit bugs, errors in design, or undocumented features to gain access to what otherwise would not be available or to obtain a competitive advantage
- In-game report REQUIRED / Customer Support ticket OPTIONAL
I will say never abuse any bugs and report them so they can be looked into and it's quite a bad practice to employ in a game.
@Peanits should be able to shed more light on it.
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Yes, I know of these trap spots like Blood Lodges window for example. I know exactly what you're talking about, and i'll edit the post if it puts your worries to rest.
Those trap spots have not been fixed in years, and BHVR is very aware of their existence. Also, I've never heard from anyone being banned for those trap spots in the first place.
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Please do not downplay you spreading potential misinformation that could get people banned as just "[my] worries". You should not feel the need to clarify your original post because of one person but rather because of the aforementioned possibility of it getting people banned.
Thank you for editing the original post in question.
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Again, I remember this subject being talked about a long time ago with how it was fine I just don't know where I can find that official statement for you.
That's why I edited the post, it was because you're right in regards to me not having an official statement on hand to go and give as proof. I wouldn't spread misinformation intentionally or accidentally because I'm confident that I know what I saw and read from an older official statement.
Let's move on shall we?
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Otzdarva promotes such spots on his streams , so I don't think it's bannable , as someone pointed out usually bannable ingame exploits are posted on forums with disclaimer that you will get banned for abusing them . It doesn't give you too much of advantage anyway .
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Okay, just to be clear. Hiding traps around corners or high high grass is fine.
But there were and may still be spots where the traps clip through the ground - that's what we're talking about, right? Again - in the past they didn't ban for it. I cannot comment for now.
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Yes, that's what we're talking about in reference to "invisible traps" it's traps that're not seen due to being sunk into the ground but still give you the prompt to disarm them... so it's kind of a moot point to count it as an exploit since you can still get the prompt to notify you that they're there.
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ILLEGAL TRAP PLACEMENT
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No, it’s isn’t bannable. There is always a slight point of the trap sticking out, even if it’s the tip of a tooth. Additionally, small game exists, so even if traps could be 100% completely hidden they have a counter that is commonly used for ruin anyway.
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Also the issue could be a bug with dedicated servers. Perhaps some survivors aren't "seeing" them, but the trapper does who knows. If that is the case, I'd let the survivors know to report the bug on the forums and such.
I expect any and all bugs possible when it comes to dedicated servers.
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Trapper needs every advantage he can get.
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Still not bannable.
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Traps have been this way forever. A normal person would come to the reasonable conclusion that if it were an exploit, it would have been fixed by now.
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Tbh it's not game breaking enough to warrant a ban. The areas you can "hide" the traps seem rather specific and if theg keep retraversing the area it's their fault. Bannable offenses should be things that absolute destroy the point of the game, like working with the killer, or refusing to complete objectives to take the game hostage till other players have to dc. Or at least my interpretation of the rules.
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That's something called smart play. If they fell for a trap, it's their fault. Good on you for making them salty. : )
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it's not bannable.
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Thanks everyone!
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