A solution to our lovely little swf problem
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No. just easier
x2 swf players = x2 perks disable (random)
x3 swf players = x3 perks disable (random)
x4 swf players = x4 perks disable3 -
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@TheXenoborg said:
@switch said:
No. just easier
x2 swf players = x2 perks disable (random)
x3 swf players = x3 perks disable (random)
x4 swf players = x4 perks disableSWF players can still dominate without perks.
agree they would stii be poweful but not as stupid as swf is right now, give them a drawback something.
Trust me no metter how much anyone whines they will never remove swf.1 -
@switch said:
No. just easier
x2 swf players = x2 perks disable (random)
x3 swf players = x3 perks disable (random)
x4 swf players = x4 perks disableI'm not sure if this will completely fix the issue. Because of voice comms, SWF groups still have access to perks like Bond, Empathy, and Kindred. They just don't need perks spots to use them.
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@ShrimpTwiggs said:
@switch said:
No. just easier
x2 swf players = x2 perks disable (random)
x3 swf players = x3 perks disable (random)
x4 swf players = x4 perks disableI'm not sure if this will completely fix the issue. Because of voice comms, SWF groups still have access to perks like Bond, Empathy, and Kindred. They just don't need perks spots to use them.
yes but no self care = time waste on getting to others to heal you or being exposed.
dstrike wouldn't be such a broken perk (this is where dstrike is broken, i dont mind it outside swf)
sprint burst = no more easy dodge for 1st hit.
It will help alot trust me.0 -
Maybe they could introduce a new mode called kill with friends0
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Remove killers and survivors from the game... problems all solved9
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Replace Survivors with AI.
No more whine threads E.Z.
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If the killer doesn't DC he gets 4 kills no matter what. This will make all of the bad killers feel better about themselves....Well at least at DBD.
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@KING_DEDE off topic but did you ever buy Chia Pet Hag?
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No still saving up for doctor in a suitfcc2014 said:@KING_DEDE off topic but did you ever buy Chia Pet Hag?
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I haven't seen many Killer cosmetics and have seen just low tier outfits on survivors seen the store opened. How about you?
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@TheXenoborg said:
Force SWF survivors to play with an AI killer. All problems fixed.
Are you a killer main? If swf is removed better start playing as survivor if you want a lobby. Competition for Killer lobbies will be fierce. Of course you could always wait and play Identity V on your mobile device while you wait.
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@KING_DEDE said:
I’ve seen one plant hag
I've seen the Huntress with the head piece, and two black dress nurses and that has been it so far.
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@TheXenoborg said:
Technically a survivor main since 99% of my games are survivor. I rarely play killer. I also don't want SWF to be removed since I'm one of the people who actually wanted a mode like this back in 2016.
So why remove them from the lobby pool to play against AI. I think the trolls might like that but it would hurt the game long term.
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@TheXenoborg said:
@Visionmaker said:
Replace Survivors with AI.No more whine threads E.Z.
Force SWF survivors to play with an AI killer. All problems fixed.
I'd be down with that lmao
Take out every player that plays with friends in the game and put them in an AI queue. I don't want ever to play with whiny, toxic players, and I don't really care if there is a player chasing us or an AI.
And whiny killer mains lobby dodge for every reason under the sun anyway, so who the hell cares? At least then would get to play with items and wear prestige without triggering somebody.
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Giving an extra perk slot for the Killer is more balanced than handicapping the survivors
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2 swf - no terror radius
3 swf - no terror radius and no red stain
4 swf - survivors have a terror radius and red stain.... FIXED....0 -
@KING_DEDE said:
how about with a 4 man swf squad you can call in a extra killer or you can inflict the dying state on a survivor from the beginning of the trailExtra killer, you say?
I made a thread about it, check it out - https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/292/fair-and-fun-solution-to-swf-problem/p1
2 killers mode would be nice.
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@TheXenoborg said:
I was being sarcastic. Seeing how most SWF players are trolls, maybe it's not such a bad idea?
You got me. I've seen so many crazy ideas on here in the past 48 hrs.
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@deadwolfwalking said:
2 swf - no terror radius
3 swf - no terror radius and no red stain
4 swf - survivors have a terror radius and red stain.... FIXED....That is game breaking. That is way to overpowered. 2 swf and no terror radius? That is broken. Besides, I usually stay in 4 man swf so i can become better as killer.
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@MumboJumbo said:
@deadwolfwalking said:
2 swf - no terror radius
3 swf - no terror radius and no red stain
4 swf - survivors have a terror radius and red stain.... FIXED....That is game breaking. That is way to overpowered. 2 swf and no terror radius? That is broken. Besides, I usually stay in 4 man swf so i can become better as killer.
its supposed to be 'game breaking'.... the purpose is to discourage SWF....
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@deadwolfwalking
How about this:
1 survivor- Permanent Ruin, 50% regression for a great skill check.
2 Survivors - 300% survivor action penalty.
3 Survivors - 100 Gens.
4 Suvivors - Insta down, 300% move speed bonus, teleportation, insta-mori, no terror radius, no red stain, see all survivors auras and if survivors move and they get the mangled status effect. Also 1000% more blood points for killer, 1000% less blood points for survivors, and they get set back to rank 20, killers get to rank 1.2 -
@MumboJumbo said:
@deadwolfwalking
How about this:
1 survivor- Permanent Ruin, 50% regression for a great skill check.
2 Survivors - 300% survivor action penalty.
3 Survivors - 100 Gens.
4 Suvivors - Insta down, 300% speed, teleportation, insta-mori, no terror radius, see all survivors auras, if survivors move and they get the mangled status effect. Also 1000% more blood points for killer, 1000% less blood points for survivors, and they get set back to rank 20, killers get to rank 1.HAHAHA, YOU GOT IT? HE WROTE IT LIKE THAT, BECAUSE KILLERS ARE SO OP PLZ NERF, BUT THEY WANT BUFFS, HAHA!!1! IT WAS SARCASM HAHAH!11!1 GOT IT? got it?/?
Not even funny. SWF needs to be fixed and we both know that.
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This seems pretty balanced what if there are ANY swf the killer gets an epic 360 noscope gun that goes PEW PEW and instantly removes the survivor from the game.And any epic gamer that gets shot instantly TRIPLE de pips.PLUS the killer gets 100000% more bloodpoints and a QUADRUPLE PIP.Now remember this is to discourage people from having friends.If you play with friends you are a stinky doo doo head and you should be banned,facecamped,tunneled.
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@RSB said:
@MumboJumbo said:
@deadwolfwalking
How about this:
1 survivor- Permanent Ruin, 50% regression for a great skill check.
2 Survivors - 300% survivor action penalty.
3 Survivors - 100 Gens.
4 Suvivors - Insta down, 300% speed, teleportation, insta-mori, no terror radius, see all survivors auras, if survivors move and they get the mangled status effect. Also 1000% more blood points for killer, 1000% less blood points for survivors, and they get set back to rank 20, killers get to rank 1.HAHAHA, YOU GOT IT? HE WROTE IT LIKE THAT, BECAUSE KILLERS ARE SO OP PLZ NERF, BUT THEY WANT BUFFS, HAHA!!1! IT WAS SARCASM HAHAH!11!1 GOT IT? got it?/?
Not even funny. SWF needs to be fixed and we both know that.
Don't know why you're lashing out at him of all people, considering salty killers in the thread... in every thread... are the ones unironically giving out brain dead suggestions that kill the game.
Hurhur guys, 0 perks for SWF, 40% repair speed reduction, default moris for 4 stacks, SWF indicators so SWF can be dodged, etc. etc. Literally all suggestions posted within the last week.
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@SharpHandJoe said:
This seems pretty balanced what if there are ANY swf the killer gets an epic 360 noscope gun that goes PEW PEW and instantly removes the survivor from the game.And any epic gamer that gets shot instantly TRIPLE de pips.PLUS the killer gets 100000% more bloodpoints and a QUADRUPLE PIP.Now remember this is to discourage people from having friends.If you play with friends you are a stinky doo doo head and you should be banned,facecamped,tunneled.The voice of reason.
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@Visionmaker said:
@RSB said:
@MumboJumbo said:
@deadwolfwalking
How about this:
1 survivor- Permanent Ruin, 50% regression for a great skill check.
2 Survivors - 300% survivor action penalty.
3 Survivors - 100 Gens.
4 Suvivors - Insta down, 300% speed, teleportation, insta-mori, no terror radius, see all survivors auras, if survivors move and they get the mangled status effect. Also 1000% more blood points for killer, 1000% less blood points for survivors, and they get set back to rank 20, killers get to rank 1.HAHAHA, YOU GOT IT? HE WROTE IT LIKE THAT, BECAUSE KILLERS ARE SO OP PLZ NERF, BUT THEY WANT BUFFS, HAHA!!1! IT WAS SARCASM HAHAH!11!1 GOT IT? got it?/?
Not even funny. SWF needs to be fixed and we both know that.
Don't know why you're lashing out at him of all people, considering salty killers in the thread... in every thread... are the ones unironically giving out brain dead suggestions that kill the game.
Hurhur guys, 0 perks for SWF, 40% repair speed reduction, default moris for 4 stacks, SWF indicators so SWF can be dodged, etc. etc. Literally all suggestions posted within the last week.
Thanks for being sane.
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nothing wrong with having friends.... nothing wrong with playing with friends.... but if you go in to a lobby to rob a man of points or pips, its you that need to be robbed.... SWF is awesome. go laugh it up. but you should leave on a hook.... not through a gate....
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@deadwolfwalking
Yeah my bro will carry me out on a hook so I don't have to walk!1 -
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@TheXenoborg
I feel that the add-ons would be a little bit crazy and the 2x bloodpoint bonus, but opting out and removing the cap or opting out and having the 2x bloodpoint bonus would be pretty helpful.0 -
@MumboJumbo said:
@TheXenoborg
I feel that the add-ons would be a little bit crazy and the 2x bloodpoint bonus, but opting out and removing the cap or opting out and having the 2x bloodpoint bonus would be pretty helpful.i agree with that too....
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@KING_DEDE said:
how about with a 4 man swf squad you can call in a extra killer or you can inflict the dying state on a survivor from the beginning of the trailHere is a SWF solution for you. Stop playing the game!! Move on! Play another game.
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@TheXenoborg said:
@fcc2014 said:
@TheXenoborg said:
Technically a survivor main since 99% of my games are survivor. I rarely play killer. I also don't want SWF to be removed since I'm one of the people who actually wanted a mode like this back in 2016.
So why remove them from the lobby pool to play against AI. I think the trolls might like that but it would hurt the game long term.
I was being sarcastic. Seeing how most SWF players are trolls, maybe it's not such a bad idea?
This right here is why the people using swf as an excuse can't be believed. They use made up claims and then expect everyone to believe them. I play solo and swf as well as killer and my discord is always hilarious when playing.
We joke about the killer making bad plays as well as when we do like turning into a dead end. We'll joke about begging the killer to spare us and if we get dropped we think yay. Then they go ahead and hook us and we joke about how rude they were.
If the killer outplayed us we say good game, if we outplayed them it's the same thing. If the killer is camping us and just nodding at us non stop and smacking us hoping we give up we laugh. We then get serious and do gens more quickly and when they say ez I'l say.
Did you forget to bring the tent and campfire to go with your camp. IF they weren't too much of a jerk about it as in they only did it when gates were powered I'll say how rude it was not to have made a campfire so I could roast marshmallows while there.
Most of the killers get a laugh out of the good banter and some even apologize for the camp to which I respond it was all good and legitimate ocne the gates were powered. There's been time I'll let myself be caught if the killers played a good match and hasn't gotten anyone down. Because I want them to get some bonus points out of the match.
Lastly the made up bs about most swf are trolls is about as true as there's oxygen on Mars. There's probably some but not a lot and it's probably really hard to find. Just as in most games there's always going to be a toxic minority. This game is no different and that extend to the killer side as well.
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I know this is a little out of place, but people are still going to want to play with their friends and want to bully the killer and then if a change to SWF would be made a big part of the community will backlash. Why not just back out if you think the survivors you're going up against are SWF? If they all load in at the same time just avoid the lobby/group. This is probably annoying and might not work 100% of the time, but it definitely will help instead of hurting those who play with one another, which makes up a lot of the player base.
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I feel like killers can at least get a couple of extra perks. Removing survivors' perks is a stupid idea because this game is very boring without perks. Action speed debuff and all other stuff makes the game even more boring. If the killers can get at least a couple of more perks, the game would be more fun for them because they can try new builds.
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i don't dodge lobbies. i'm not scared of SWF.... but i don't think the killer should be at such an extreme disadvantage. i wouldn't even opt out of the match. but i would like some compensation.... thats all i really want....
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@TheXenoborg said:
Cool. Except there's abundant anecdotes in forms of posts, streams and videos of SWF mostly being an instrument for trolls.
That's not evidence though, that's simply a collection of people whining about it. How many videos and posts are out there that say the exact opposite? We could each post the exact same number of things yet you and the others would still say your facts are right etc.
Most of any given community never goes to a forum yet alone posts threads, comments or videos of any kind for the game they play. I've just as many post, threads, streams and videos of killers being toxic and or hacking. But that doesn't mean all killers are like that not by any means it's just a small % that does it and the same for survivor side doing toxic things.
I've seen solo queue survivors be super toxic before and in fact had a game this am where 1 survivor griefed another by tea bagging them in front of where they were hooked. The killer came and chased them around and when they tea bagged and tried to sandbag the unhooked victim the killer wouldn't take the bait. In fact the killer went after the toxic survivor and downed them and went after everyone else regularly but kept going after the toxic player 1st.
When I'm killer if I see someone being toxic on survivor side i hardcore go after them, i don't camp but they get my special attention. If I'ma survivor and someone is toxic I'll still try and help some but I'm not going out of my way for them.
Most people on both sides are decent and to claim otherwise is to do the temper tantrum 2 year old stomping in the corner with your hands over your ears.
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@TheXenoborg said:
@switch said:
No. just easier
x2 swf players = x2 perks disable (random)
x3 swf players = x3 perks disable (random)
x4 swf players = x4 perks disableSWF players can still dominate without perks.
Yes but it would be a start at least
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@TheXenoborg said:
@Master said:
@TheXenoborg said:
@switch said:
No. just easier
x2 swf players = x2 perks disable (random)
x3 swf players = x3 perks disable (random)
x4 swf players = x4 perks disableSWF players can still dominate without perks.
Yes but it would be a start at least
It would be more like a "1 step forward and 4 steps back" kind of a thing.
Explain the 4 steps back?
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