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DBD has become vanilla (IMO)

Don't get me wrong it's a great game, and while i'm just one player with my own opinion, the game has been sucked dry of fun with the unbearable amount of nerfs and changes. Before you react 'OmG YoU'Re jUsT bAd' and stuff like that, hear me out, this is a long one btw.

the devs keep making this such a vanilla game and frankly boring game- All the items and addons that can let people have fun 'pog' moments keep being nerfed and taken away, while the devs focus their efforts on random [BAD WORD].

look at dedicated servers- the ping for every game is so horrendous i just don't want to play, in fact i'd rather have it go back the way it was with the killer being host, because even then 8/10 games were decent ping and only 1/30 games you got a lag switcher ETC, but now EVERY game is 200+ ping and you constantly teleport.

MATCH RANKING- seriously, i just can't even express how annoying this is now. SO, SO, SOOOO many teammates who are rank 10, and literally play like it's their first ever game is infuriating beyond belief, the fact that they're somehow rank 10 is bad enough, but then with the addition of rank 5's being matched with rank 19's is just a joke (yes this happens to me probably every 2nd game, i'm not exaggerating.)

TUNNELING AND CAMPING- can we make a system punishing tunnelers and campers aside from DS? I know it's a hard ask but i main survivor now and seriously, 8/10 games that i die in, it's because of teammates who farm me, then i get tunneled and camped. that 1 out of 10? yeah thats me dying to a killer who actually was a good player and rightfully deserved to win, GG to them. The other 1/10 is me escaping, which honestly i don't even celebrate that anymore, i celebrate not getting tunneled and camped.

other bugs n stuff- all games have bugs and the devs to try to fix them, but i mainly use dead hard on alot of the players and it's just so annoying now that half the time dead hard gives you 'exhausted' status even though the killer downed you while it should be active.

SO MANY [BAD WORD] NERFS- this one is so hard to talk about because it's an extremely 50/50 topic, some people love the game being super vanilla and balanced, but like even the insta heals being nerfed now, #########! Instalheals are so rare now that it hardly ever makes a difference, and like i said before it can be super fun for 'pog' moments, and while it could be frustrating for a killer, they have just as many good addons.

alright so instaheals is one that really annoys me, but insta flashlights and brand new parts were both super fun to use, and while honestly i can agree with the brand new part being nerfed a bit so you can't insta 4 gens, i think it's appalling that brand new parts are still a pink addon, when they could qualify for a brown one.


the flashlight nerf was eh, because really i mean it wasn't that bad of a nerf and flashlights still do their job so she'll be right i guess.

the nurse change? come on man anyone who is good enough playing nurse to warrant a nerf, this crappy little blink charge won't affect them, but to everyone else who rarely plays her/ wants to learn her, it just makes it all that more difficult.

even things like sprint burst- used to be a cool sort of perk to outrun the killer for a sec and even that was fun, but yeah nah it feels like (didn't keep up with the news for a while) sprint burst has been nerfed alot, with it only giving an ever so slight boost over the killer compared to what it used to.

alright i'm done with my rant, i guess what i'm saying is that the devs just make this game so vanilla and boring now, and almost every game as survivor i celebrate not being camped and tunneled, while we keep getting nerfed (and i know people will say 'what about SWF', obviously you can't please everyone, and i'm probably the minority in saying i rarely, if ever SWF.) My suggestion is just keep things in the game interesting with some survivor buff concepts, not the 1 in a million flashlight save and call it a day with 'OP survivors'.

yeah just thinking about this makes me think about what kind of responses (if any) i'll get. Remember, i know it's extremely touchy and hard to please everyone with the game, i'm just giving my POV and opinion, but then again feel free to roast me. (also i have 741 hours in the game and have had it since legacy)

Comments

  • humanbeing1704
    humanbeing1704 Member Posts: 8,998

    the new styptic is pretty good mettle of man in a medkit lol

  • Multiplenames
    Multiplenames Member Posts: 36

    not a bully simulator, you pretty much missed my point. ofc there shouldn't be OP survivor and nothing for killer, i'm saying give a few OP items to killer and a few OP items to survivor, even if they're rare.. just adds something to the game

  • Multiplenames
    Multiplenames Member Posts: 36

    played hundreds of hours of killer and been subjected to it plenty of times, but without things like that in the game it again, makes it boring. If a survivor escapes because of ######### like that, then you can say it's purely because of that, but if you kill the survivor even with those tactics, then you can talk as much ######### as you want and feel rewarded.

  • Multiplenames
    Multiplenames Member Posts: 36

    idk where you've been playing but as i said, 8/10 games tunnelers and campers for me... no matter what rank i play, even if the survivors do nothing dirty. I don't know whats causing it, but it's definately not the survivors. unless you want to use "survivors" as absolute, just their existence is enough to give the killer reason to tunnel

  • Lambda
    Lambda Member Posts: 105

    OP options for both the Killers and Survivors do not sound fun at all.

  • Multiplenames
    Multiplenames Member Posts: 36

    there used to be and people loved the game then, but then it got changed into exactly what im saying now is just vanilla and starting to get boring

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    I don't know that I'd go so far as to say the game is boring now, but I do agree with you for the most part about the way it's been balanced. In my unpopular opinion, ultra rares like instaheals, keys and, yes, moris, add variety and flavour to the game. There's something fun about how absurdly overpowered they are.

    It's not competitive, there's nothing riding on it, so it doesn't have to be perfectly balanced. It's okay to have a game every now and then where the killer moris everyone in five minutes, or where the survivors make a clutch escape with the hatch.

    Those 'pog' moments are what gives the game its character - character which is lost when those items are nerfed, which I think is a real shame.

    And yes, while the BNP nerf is justified, I agree that they're no longer powerful enough to justify their rarity or cost.

  • Multiplenames
    Multiplenames Member Posts: 36

    holy ######### couldn't agree with you more man, it's an unpopular opinion but its my opinon too. Exactly what you said with the ultra rares n stuff, it adds variety and makes the game more exciting... thinking about the old game, it's insane how much survivors have been nerfed (for a while it was good but now it's just getting SO balanced that every game is nearly the exact same with nothing suprising and fun anymore). Like at the start of the game - double pallets, no window blocks, no bloodlust, vacuum pallets and windows, all windows were open, sprint burst was pretty gud, insta flashlights, brand new parts ETC. You look at all those things we used to have, while things like double pallets were definately OP, things like insta flashlights and BNP were actually fun and could make some epic plays, but now Brand new parts are literally garbage, you have to hit fairly medium difficulty skill checks to use it, and even then it only does... what like 25%?

    and not to mention that even after i posted this, i got tunneled and camped in about 2/5 games (the other games i got lucky due to the broken matchmaking which matched a rank 10 with a rank 3 and 18, which meant the killer was P3 and was actually respectable, so i didn't get camped)

  • Atrushan88
    Atrushan88 Member Posts: 2,092
    edited October 2019

    I don't ever feel like I'm having FUN against an ebony mori, and I'd never use one, because I'd be playing a game I didn't deserve to win.

    I don't mind a little chaos, but I'd rather it be balanced chaos than "whoever brings the bigger guns wins" chaos.

    For example, Freddy's addons are pretty much perfectly balanced. Sure Red Paint Brush and Swing Chains might be a bit on the powerful side, but his pallet addons are a unique and NICE way to make addons that aren't overpowered, but still fun and unique. I wish killers had more of that instead of things like Iridescent Heads+Infantry Belt Huntress. I highly doubt anyone can disagree with me that Freddy's pallet addons were a good change for the game, or that it made him more fun.

    Balance decisions like that are what the game needs, not having stuff so powerful it's like "Why try?".

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    "Instaheals are so rare."

    Are you kidding, even before the patch was announced there was at least one every other match.

  • BenZ0
    BenZ0 Member Posts: 4,125

    I love those survivor main posts, its always funny to read there complete one sided opinions xDD

    So Killers are not allowed to have fun in this game right? Good to know lul

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    I'm a Plague main atm, I bathe in the salty tears of survivors who wasted their instas.

  • UlvenDagoth
    UlvenDagoth Member Posts: 3,535

    Well I can KINDA do that as Legion. DW is a health state...

  • anarchy753
    anarchy753 Member Posts: 4,212

    Yeah, just a completely irrelevant one because you still have to hit them again without touching your power button, wounds or not.

  • Kebek
    Kebek Member Posts: 3,676

    I guess you forgot about "fun" things killers used to have. Remember OG nurse with 3 blinks baseline with OG mori that instakilled without any previous interaction or good old NOED that lasted forever without any counterplay and a lot more. Also facecamping was like 10x more spread then it is today as well as tunneling since old DS was super bugged for a long time(and could have been dribbled) and killers had free reign when/if they finally caught someone.

    I still don't understand what's so fun about old flashlights or BNPs. Like who's having fun in 2 min game or using flashlight that takes 0,1s to blind the killer, it was so braindead easy that only survivors who wanted to bully the killer could enjoy them.

    Old DBD was horribly balanced and despite it having it's "fun" moments, it was extremely frustrating to play and today we are much better off.

  • arslaN
    arslaN Member Posts: 1,936

    I mean as a survivor, I agree that those days were super fun but you also have to think about killers as well.

    Insta heals are still good after the nerfs. BNP changes were necessary (even though they are kind of trash right now).

    One thing that I sort of agree is that flashlight saves are very hard to pull off now, you have to be in the perfect position and you have to time it perfectly. They were the most fun items to use and they can be useless against any decent killer now, that's kind of sad. But again, the insta flashlights were bs and I'm glad they are removed.

    Devs also really need to punish camping/tunneling more without survivors needing to run DS or BT (which is also now useless against certain killers). I hate that I have to run ds every single match to have a chance against campers.

  • Multiplenames
    Multiplenames Member Posts: 36

    it's bad right now because the devs said they're nerfing insta heals so everyones using them beforehand.