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Question for devs about the killers

So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

Thank you!

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  • Master
    Master Member Posts: 10,200

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    LF is almost as bad as freddy, but yeah freddy needs a buff most desperately :wink:

  • Doom_Punk
    Doom_Punk Member Posts: 371

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Saying one of the worst Killers in the game doesn't need anything is kinda weird.

    He's terrible. Period. He needs buffs.

    PrayForBubba

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552
    edited July 2018

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Tbh, with freddy, you can at least make a couple of plays. There is nothing you can do with leatherface right now except for camping. There is no such thing as good LF because his ability doesn't need any kind of skill or usage. He is too simple to use so they can't even make him stronger. They need to rework his ability so that he will be more difficult to use and when used properly, he should be deadly not 'memely'

    Actually, this is the problem with this game's killers. They are so ######### simple to use. There is a difference between a good nurse and a bad nurse. There is no difference between a good LF and a bad LF. Everything that you can say about LF is general and comes to one's knowledge about the game. Zubat can play leatherface better than me not because he is actually good at LF but he knows the game and plays the game accordingly.

    Edit; Killers must be able to show their skill when they are playing their killers. Nurse, huntress or hillbilly players can show their skill but since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. If leatherface comes across with good survivors he is doomed to lose the match.

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  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    @IronWolf115 and I agreed that this would put LF in a better area than he's in currently. Every time I see a LF as a survivor... "No, I'm gonna get one hooked because he's probably gonna camp me." I'm not saying camping is stupid because there are legit reasons why killer's do camp but it's not fun to be camped, so anything that discourages camping will make this community better. Here's the discussion if you wanna see my rework for him :) 
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/8002/lf-rework-idea#latest
  • IronWolf115
    IronWolf115 Member Posts: 672

    @Delfador said:

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Tbh, with freddy, you can at least make a couple of plays. There is nothing you can do with leatherface right now except for camping. There is no such thing as good LF because his ability doesn't need any kind of skill or usage. He is too simple to use so they can't even make him stronger. They need to rework his ability so that he will be more difficult to use and when used properly, he should be deadly not 'memely'

    Actually, this is the problem with this game's killers. They are so [BAD WORD] simple to use. There is a difference between a good nurse and a bad nurse. There is no difference between a good LF and a bad LF. Everything that you can say about LF is general and comes to one's knowledge about the game. Zubat can play leatherface better than me not because he is actually good at LF but he knows the game and plays the game accordingly.

    Edit; Killers must be able to show their skill when they are playing their killers. Nurse, huntress or hillbilly players can show their skill but since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. If leatherface comes across with good survivors he is doomed to lose the match.

    Yeah this is a really good post. When you look at the killer that resembles LF most, Hillbilly, he has different styles of play because he has great map pressure, good mind games and still has his insta-down attack. Plus he has far more useful add-ons than LF. Look at LF and what do you get? No map pressure, awful add-ons, the acceleration mechanic of his is terrible, he has no mind games because of how clunky and unreliable his ability is and his chainsaw always feels like a gamble of " Will I hit this wall if I use the chainsaw here".

  • Someissues
    Someissues Member Posts: 1,604

    @Amanda55 said:

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Leatherface is as bad as Pig on rank 1, are you drunk?

    and they already stated Freddy will be buff next

  • Volfawott
    Volfawott Member Posts: 3,893
    They're probably going to do it in groups of 2.
     We have Trapper and Hag this patch
    Next without a doubt is probably going to be Freddy and Wraith.
    After that we might get Bubba and Amanda
    Doctor and Myers
    Clown and huntress
    And I feel like the last two would probably be Nurse and Billy
  • IronWolf115
    IronWolf115 Member Posts: 672

    @Aari_Piggy66 said:
    They're probably going to do it in groups of 2.
     We have Trapper and Hag this patch
    Next without a doubt is probably going to be Freddy and Wraith.
    After that we might get Bubba and Amanda
    Doctor and Myers
    Clown and huntress
    And I feel like the last two would probably be Nurse and Billy

    I doubt Nurse or Billy will get anything, but I do agree they seem to be taking it two by two. So hopefully LF and Pig will be together!

  • EpicFailTryHard
    EpicFailTryHard Member Posts: 1,316
    Master said:

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    LF is almost as bad as freddy, but yeah freddy needs a buff most desperately :wink:



    lf is bad.  his chainsaw start time and his speed while moving with it running are sufficient to ensure regular escapes.
  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370

    @Delfador said:

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Tbh, with freddy, you can at least make a couple of plays. There is nothing you can do with leatherface right now except for camping. There is no such thing as good LF because his ability doesn't need any kind of skill or usage. He is too simple to use so they can't even make him stronger. They need to rework his ability so that he will be more difficult to use and when used properly, he should be deadly not 'memely'

    Actually, this is the problem with this game's killers. They are so [BAD WORD] simple to use. There is a difference between a good nurse and a bad nurse. There is no difference between a good LF and a bad LF. Everything that you can say about LF is general and comes to one's knowledge about the game. Zubat can play leatherface better than me not because he is actually good at LF but he knows the game and plays the game accordingly.

    Edit; Killers must be able to show their skill when they are playing their killers. Nurse, huntress or hillbilly players can show their skill but since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. If leatherface comes across with good survivors he is doomed to lose the match.

    Once LFs' chainsaw is activated try weaving through tree's without hitting anything. Sure, it takes less skill to play LF than Nurse but LF is harder to play than trapper.

    Trapper is just a mindless zombie and relies more or less on the RNG of traps unless you carry three traps and can trap a whole section of the map at once. Does placing traps on the off chance that they run into them take skill? Its just a mind game that does not even work half the time.

    Survs are able to walk around traps even when placed in between two haybales or in narrow hallways. This is with placing the trap dead smack in the middle of the path. A bigger trap trigger area is needed, among other things.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Envees said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Tbh, with freddy, you can at least make a couple of plays. There is nothing you can do with leatherface right now except for camping. There is no such thing as good LF because his ability doesn't need any kind of skill or usage. He is too simple to use so they can't even make him stronger. They need to rework his ability so that he will be more difficult to use and when used properly, he should be deadly not 'memely'

    Actually, this is the problem with this game's killers. They are so [BAD WORD] simple to use. There is a difference between a good nurse and a bad nurse. There is no difference between a good LF and a bad LF. Everything that you can say about LF is general and comes to one's knowledge about the game. Zubat can play leatherface better than me not because he is actually good at LF but he knows the game and plays the game accordingly.

    Edit; Killers must be able to show their skill when they are playing their killers. Nurse, huntress or hillbilly players can show their skill but since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. If leatherface comes across with good survivors he is doomed to lose the match.

    Once LFs' chainsaw is activated try weaving through tree's without hitting anything. Sure, it takes less skill to play LF than Nurse but LF is harder to play than trapper.

    Trapper is just a mindless zombie and relies more or less on the RNG of traps unless you carry three traps and can trap a whole section of the map at once. Does placing traps on the off chance that they run into them take skill? Its just a mind game that does not even work half the time.

    Survs are able to walk around traps even when placed in between two haybales or in narrow hallways. This is with placing the trap dead smack in the middle of the path. A bigger trap trigger area is needed, among other things.

    I have no idea what you are talking about tbh. I literally said that since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. Key word here is the killer(s). This includes killers like trapper, wraith etc. I still think that the trapper is better than LF though. It is not that difficult to wave your chainsaw around a tree. You don't even need to do that because if survivors stop running around you will chainsaw them so they need to keep running. Just turn around and make them run into your chainsaw not that difficult.

  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370
    edited July 2018

    @Delfador said:

    @Envees said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Tbh, with freddy, you can at least make a couple of plays. There is nothing you can do with leatherface right now except for camping. There is no such thing as good LF because his ability doesn't need any kind of skill or usage. He is too simple to use so they can't even make him stronger. They need to rework his ability so that he will be more difficult to use and when used properly, he should be deadly not 'memely'

    Actually, this is the problem with this game's killers. They are so [BAD WORD] simple to use. There is a difference between a good nurse and a bad nurse. There is no difference between a good LF and a bad LF. Everything that you can say about LF is general and comes to one's knowledge about the game. Zubat can play leatherface better than me not because he is actually good at LF but he knows the game and plays the game accordingly.

    Edit; Killers must be able to show their skill when they are playing their killers. Nurse, huntress or hillbilly players can show their skill but since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. If leatherface comes across with good survivors he is doomed to lose the match.

    Once LFs' chainsaw is activated try weaving through tree's without hitting anything. Sure, it takes less skill to play LF than Nurse but LF is harder to play than trapper.

    Trapper is just a mindless zombie and relies more or less on the RNG of traps unless you carry three traps and can trap a whole section of the map at once. Does placing traps on the off chance that they run into them take skill? Its just a mind game that does not even work half the time.

    Survs are able to walk around traps even when placed in between two haybales or in narrow hallways. This is with placing the trap dead smack in the middle of the path. A bigger trap trigger area is needed, among other things.

    I have no idea what you are talking about tbh. I literally said that since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. Key word here is the killer(s). This includes killers like trapper, wraith etc. I still think that the trapper is better than LF though. It is not that difficult to wave your chainsaw around a tree. You don't even need to do that because if survivors stop running around you will chainsaw them so they need to keep running. Just turn around and make them run into your chainsaw not that difficult.

    And this is where we disagree. You think LF is easy. Fine. I dont think so and disagree. Like i said. I think LF is easier than nurse but harder than trapper. You disagree. fine.

    It takes far more skill, i think, to use a charged chainsaw on an active target that runs through the woods who actively and purposely runs next to items so you stun yourself than placing traps at some random location in the hopes that your herding skills will trap them.

    Trapper is far too RNG based for me. Trapper takes either rng trap placement or place them and herd them. Then you hope they run into them.

    You did understand me obviously. You disagreed with what i said and are still saying that LF takes no skill whereas i disagreed and said why i think so.

    EDIT... a bad LF will hit stuff and stun himself all the time. A good one will down you. That is the skill difference.

  • Delfador
    Delfador Member Posts: 2,552

    @Envees said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Envees said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Tbh, with freddy, you can at least make a couple of plays. There is nothing you can do with leatherface right now except for camping. There is no such thing as good LF because his ability doesn't need any kind of skill or usage. He is too simple to use so they can't even make him stronger. They need to rework his ability so that he will be more difficult to use and when used properly, he should be deadly not 'memely'

    Actually, this is the problem with this game's killers. They are so [BAD WORD] simple to use. There is a difference between a good nurse and a bad nurse. There is no difference between a good LF and a bad LF. Everything that you can say about LF is general and comes to one's knowledge about the game. Zubat can play leatherface better than me not because he is actually good at LF but he knows the game and plays the game accordingly.

    Edit; Killers must be able to show their skill when they are playing their killers. Nurse, huntress or hillbilly players can show their skill but since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. If leatherface comes across with good survivors he is doomed to lose the match.

    Once LFs' chainsaw is activated try weaving through tree's without hitting anything. Sure, it takes less skill to play LF than Nurse but LF is harder to play than trapper.

    Trapper is just a mindless zombie and relies more or less on the RNG of traps unless you carry three traps and can trap a whole section of the map at once. Does placing traps on the off chance that they run into them take skill? Its just a mind game that does not even work half the time.

    Survs are able to walk around traps even when placed in between two haybales or in narrow hallways. This is with placing the trap dead smack in the middle of the path. A bigger trap trigger area is needed, among other things.

    I have no idea what you are talking about tbh. I literally said that since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. Key word here is the killer(s). This includes killers like trapper, wraith etc. I still think that the trapper is better than LF though. It is not that difficult to wave your chainsaw around a tree. You don't even need to do that because if survivors stop running around you will chainsaw them so they need to keep running. Just turn around and make them run into your chainsaw not that difficult.

    And this is where we disagree. You think LF is easy. Fine. I dont think so and disagree. Like i said. I think LF is easier than nurse but harder than trapper. You disagree. fine.

    It takes far more skill, i think, to use a charged chainsaw on an active target that runs through the woods who actively and purposely runs next to items so you stun yourself than placing traps at some random location in the hopes that your herding skills will trap them.

    Trapper is far too RNG based for me. Trapper takes either rng trap placement or place them and herd them. Then you hope they run into them.

    You did understand me obviously. You disagreed with what i said and are still saying that LF takes no skill whereas i disagreed and said why i think so.

    EDIT... a bad LF will hit stuff and stun himself all the time. A good one will down you. That is the skill difference.

    I have already said that trapper needs more complicated gameplay as well. The thing you don't understand is that trapper is not created for skilled players. It is not his job. His job is to place traps and close some of the spots and then he can force survivors to go those areas and stuff like that. Trapper and hag are for area controlling. You have to sacrifice 2 or 3 generators and place your traps around the pallets and windows where the last 4 or 5 generators are.

    Leatherface on the other hand is created for chasing and downing survivors like hillbilly and nurse and he needs his ability to be more complicated so that there will be a difference between a good LF and a bad one. Tbh, saying that it takes skill to not run into objects is not a good defense. Then it also takes skill to hit survivors with your m1 if the survivor 360 you. Then trapper requires skill to play as well.

    Their game play style completely different and you try to compare them with each other which is a mistake. If you can play the trapper you have way more chance to win than LF.

  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370

    @Delfador said:

    @Envees said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Envees said:

    @Delfador said:

    @Amanda55 said:

    @IronWolf115 said:
    So if any devs actually read this, first of all hey.

    Now down to buisiness, I know that the devs are currently looking at Trapper, Hag, Freddy and Wraith for buffs. This is great and my question is this: After they are all buffed, what killers are you considering focusing on next?

    Now I know you have said that you are focusing right now on the aformentioned four killers, but you must at least have an idea on who you would like to look at next.

    I personally, and i'm sure much of the killer community, would recommend you taking a deep look into Leatherface. This is because LF is, in a word, awful. His ability sucks and is super clunky, his add-ons are mostly useless and just copy Hillbilly and he has kind of become a meme in that he is just the ultimate camping killer.

    LF is another topic for himself though, I am just really curious what the plan is for more killer buffs if you would be inclined to tell us.

    Thank you!

    LF doesn't need anything. The one who needs buffs is Freddy.

    Tbh, with freddy, you can at least make a couple of plays. There is nothing you can do with leatherface right now except for camping. There is no such thing as good LF because his ability doesn't need any kind of skill or usage. He is too simple to use so they can't even make him stronger. They need to rework his ability so that he will be more difficult to use and when used properly, he should be deadly not 'memely'

    Actually, this is the problem with this game's killers. They are so [BAD WORD] simple to use. There is a difference between a good nurse and a bad nurse. There is no difference between a good LF and a bad LF. Everything that you can say about LF is general and comes to one's knowledge about the game. Zubat can play leatherface better than me not because he is actually good at LF but he knows the game and plays the game accordingly.

    Edit; Killers must be able to show their skill when they are playing their killers. Nurse, huntress or hillbilly players can show their skill but since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. If leatherface comes across with good survivors he is doomed to lose the match.

    Once LFs' chainsaw is activated try weaving through tree's without hitting anything. Sure, it takes less skill to play LF than Nurse but LF is harder to play than trapper.

    Trapper is just a mindless zombie and relies more or less on the RNG of traps unless you carry three traps and can trap a whole section of the map at once. Does placing traps on the off chance that they run into them take skill? Its just a mind game that does not even work half the time.

    Survs are able to walk around traps even when placed in between two haybales or in narrow hallways. This is with placing the trap dead smack in the middle of the path. A bigger trap trigger area is needed, among other things.

    I have no idea what you are talking about tbh. I literally said that since killers like LF are so simple, nobody can show their skill. Key word here is the killer(s). This includes killers like trapper, wraith etc. I still think that the trapper is better than LF though. It is not that difficult to wave your chainsaw around a tree. You don't even need to do that because if survivors stop running around you will chainsaw them so they need to keep running. Just turn around and make them run into your chainsaw not that difficult.

    And this is where we disagree. You think LF is easy. Fine. I dont think so and disagree. Like i said. I think LF is easier than nurse but harder than trapper. You disagree. fine.

    It takes far more skill, i think, to use a charged chainsaw on an active target that runs through the woods who actively and purposely runs next to items so you stun yourself than placing traps at some random location in the hopes that your herding skills will trap them.

    Trapper is far too RNG based for me. Trapper takes either rng trap placement or place them and herd them. Then you hope they run into them.

    You did understand me obviously. You disagreed with what i said and are still saying that LF takes no skill whereas i disagreed and said why i think so.

    EDIT... a bad LF will hit stuff and stun himself all the time. A good one will down you. That is the skill difference.

    I have already said that trapper needs more complicated gameplay as well. The thing you don't understand is that trapper is not created for skilled players. It is not his job. His job is to place traps and close some of the spots and then he can force survivors to go those areas and stuff like that. Trapper and hag are for area controlling. You have to sacrifice 2 or 3 generators and place your traps around the pallets and windows where the last 4 or 5 generators are.

    Leatherface on the other hand is created for chasing and downing survivors like hillbilly and nurse and he needs his ability to be more complicated so that there will be a difference between a good LF and a bad one. Tbh, saying that it takes skill to not run into objects is not a good defense. Then it also takes skill to hit survivors with your m1 if the survivor 360 you. Then trapper requires skill to play as well.

    Their game play style completely different and you try to compare them with each other which is a mistake. If you can play the trapper you have way more chance to win than LF.

    Once again. I disagree with your last sentence and so does my gameplay score when i compare the two killers. I get more BP, kills, hits and do generally better with LF than i do with trapper. I am just talking about my score here. I am sure there are others who can wreck with the trapper on a regular basis. I can do well with him but not as good as i do with LF. I consider the ability to down survs with his chainsaw not some mindless no-skill event. On open maps when they cant run it sure is easier but most maps have lots of areas where you can bump into things.

    I think most killers would rate LF higher than the trapper. I think most killers would also agree that LF takes more skill than the trapper. LF is consistently rated higher than the trapper in all the threads i have read that tried to compare killers.

    But to get back to the skill level needed i just disagree with you so i think we should leave it at that.

    Wont see you in the fog my friend. Dont play. On a strike. Have been for a month now. Awaiting changes. If not happy another 3 month wait if not longer. Waiting for some changes and not just proposals that are being talked about in a dev stream.

  • lasombra1979
    lasombra1979 Member Posts: 1,142

    If I may add my opinion, Leatherface does require skill to properly play him. The way he handles, the penalty if you hit an object, the timing and anticipation. While the skill required is not at Nurse level, I will actually put him on level of Billy as required skill. That said, he is still a very weak and limited killer, as the killer needed does not equal out to the playability. You need to very good to be able to play Bubba at even an average level.

    As for the Trapper, his style is not physical skill based but mind game based. While his mechanics are easier for new players than Leatherface, does not mean he is easier and gives you a better chance to win in the long run. It is a matter of your chosen playstyle on who you score better with overall.