may the syringe rest in piece tomorrow 🙌
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Good riddance
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Yep, good riddance. Now for Moris...
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I hope it rests in pieces.
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It's still good if you can loop well...
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eh I just find there's literally no reason to use it over new styptic
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Freddy ignores new styptic since it applies deep wounds you're still downed anyway because no TR
Thats 1 reason.
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Good riddance and next should be mori offerings
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That's why the oblivious change in my opinion was not needed and stupid
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new syringe seems pretty useless to me gonna only be using styptics I guess
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Can all of the undetectable killers do this mid chase too? Ghost/Wraith/Pig/T1 myers?
Or no because they don't add oblivious?
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ghostface and myers can go in chase a cloaked wraith and crouched pig can't go into a chase not certain on the pig one
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I wasn't being super specific by chase i meant following with the survivor right there in eye sight no moonwalk or anything.
So wraith/pig can crouch or cloak and follow until down and myers/ghost can chase until down? Implying the Ghost Face can keep his power up as well.
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I don't think you have to be in TR for the Endurance buff. It just says you can take a hit. Borrowed Time only GIVES you the Endurance buff if you're in TR. Think of this more like Mettle of Man, but controllable.
Except for the fact that you'll find Syringes far more often than you find Styptics because of the BS way rarity works. So now we're stuck with another red addon we have to look at in our inventory constantly. I'm more annoyed by the other addon changes though tbh. Can't heal ourselves remotely fast anymore because people need to run Sloppy Butcher to make sure people keep going for the gen rush.
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You're misunderstanding what i meant. You'll get the endurance hit and be put into borrowed time/deep wounds state.
Even if successfully put into deep wound state against a killer that can remove TR like freddy you'll go down because the mend timer is tied to the TR.
So it'll work but you're guaranteed to go down in a few seconds even if you don't get hit again.
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Syringe is still better if you’re decent at looping
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They are still good vs insta downs, but overall its well deserved nerf and Im glad we are seeing devs nerfing things that are un fun to opposite side.
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Wraith can chase survivors cloaked, so the Deep Wound timer Goes down because of the lakc of TR. Ghost Face can do the same, but not as good as Wraith because he can be break out, Myers gets usually out from EW1 before chasing someone and Pig is way too slow while crouched to do that.
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How are they good vs insta downs?
Can you use a styptic at full health now to tank a chainsaw or something? The insta part wouldn't matter if you're staying injured to be able to use one you'd be 1 shot without them using instas.
If you can styptic at full health now that'd be pretty good yeah.
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They are more balanced now and still useable.
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Lol they're far from useable unless you literally make an entire build surrounding the idea you might use it once in a game...(not a complaint, per se. I'd prefer a full rework so we have an add-on with use that isn't grossly OP, but then again we still have moris not getting changed...)
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It is a eight second heal, no build needed. Just some pallet and some looping.
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Oh, right. So now both are countered by certain killers. Any med kit vs Plague except Styptic and Styptic against any stealth killer/Freddy. I mean med kits are becoming pretty useless now. Guess I'm gonna have to start using Adrenaline and Inner Strength. RIP perk options. At least I prestiged my David, so I can just use all the current brown medis I have rn and ignore them all. I needed to start practicing with a flashlight anyways.
Also are we SURE it gives Borrowed Time? Mettle of Man is considered Endurance and it doesn't give Borrowed Time.
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True. New styptic is way better.
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But a major nerf to nurse? And a buff to healing speed? Just sayin' if you didn't noticed.
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the feels
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If a killer sees you use a medkit on them and it disappears they're going to know what's happened lol. Picking up a survivor cancels it. A build is most definitely needed to make ti work in most scenarios.
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'major' nerf? It's very much a minor nerf overall and some of the fun add-on combinations with a lot of practise could be insane in the future.
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That was truly beautiful. RIP old friend you will be missed. may the great spirit of the entity be good to you in the sky😢.
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Excuse me sir , we are in mourning over here. Don’t you have your own funeral to attend?please stop harassing the friends and family of the deceased.
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I don't think the Nurse nerf is "major". I'd say it may be major to people who haven't played her much, or don't play her much, or aren't that good with her, but otherwise I don't think it's a major nerf. The healing speed is only to other players, while also there are now NO healing speed addons. Pretty much a nerf all around for the med kit unless you're healing others, which you don't bring med kits in with the intention of, and We'll Make It fills the role of healing others better than any med kit.
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If you use it correctly then no build is required, eight seconds really isn’t that long.
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Using it on other players in the case of campers, Mori denials, and everything else regarding smart use of healing other players have been completely removed from the use of a syringe. I suppose new Styptic can replace those, but they're far rarer(and I'm not sure about the use of them against moris since you'd still be in the dying state, and afaik you still can't use a styptic AND a syringe together, meaning you'd 100% have to be in a SWF to prevent a mori and even then it probably wouldn't work 99% of the time).
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Honestly, it was a bit dumb to down someone only for them to get brought back up, I don’t want that back. They aren’t dead but they’re definitely more bearable for killers. Pink is still good for self-use though.
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Only if you're in a safe spot to use it. You generally don't have that kind of time considering the time it takes to even start healing before you can use the instaheal part. There's a pretty big chunk of delay at that point to where a killer would probably be halfway done with his animation of breaking a pallet before you used it. I don't really like the way Instaheals were done personally, because I mainly used them to get people out of situations where they were camped, and now that's gone, but I have a bigger gripe with how they're handling med kits as a whole which imo were gutted with the changes to Surgical Suture, Abdominal Dressing, Medical Scissors, Needle and Thread, and Self Adherent Wrap, while also nerfing the charges on every med kit except one.
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You could use it once you hear the tr, you should have a pallet nearby. If it is a stealth killer then try to stun them if you see them and then use it, you’ll either loop around the dropped pallet or move to the next one.
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If you're injured and the killer isn't already chasing you, you would have already used it before even hearing the TR. This sounds like you're saying to use it while not in a chase, unless you stun the killer. But like I said, it removes an important counter to camping.
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What I’m saying is if you’re certain that the killer is approaching then use it, problem is that it also hurt non-camping killers, a camping counter should counter campers, not everyone.
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Wouldnt BT or the new styptic be just as good at countering camping?
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Problem is if anyone recommends any kind of camping counter someone says either "It's been tried before, even if you managed to make it completely impossible to abuse by offering logical solutions to the previous failure, it'd still be too powerful and survivors would abuse it", or just get up in arms about it.
Freddy, GhostFace, Insidious, Wraith, Tier 1 Myers, Pig crouched, etc. They already took use of Borrowed Time away from Freddy. I wouldn't be surprised if even more changes come for it.
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Insidious won’t work, you have to stand still so the survivors can still run away. Aren’t some killers supposed to counter certain things?
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thank god they will be gone. as for moris i see everyone wanting them nerfed but not once have i seen someone offer a good suggestion on how they should be nerfed.
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The counter to camping does exist, you can spread out and do gens while have people occasionally switch spots on the hook.
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I offered one a long time ago. A few killers got annoyed with me removing the ability to kill survivors by hand before death hook(and making it base kit) and changing the offering to something with a different objective than generators for survivors, putting the game in favor of the killer but not in a way that actually makes it where they win with no effort and no one gets bloodpoints. Other than that everyone else ignored it. Mainly because if it's not an anger fueled discussion on nerfing something into the ground, or buffing it to where you'd have to be one armed and blindfolded to not win with it, people ignore it.
You'd only have to stand still until they're unhooked, at which point they have no borrowed time and you can just re-down them. Killers are up to 15% faster on most normal occasions, and even higher with perks. You could stand directly next to the survivor for that. As for killers countering certain things, I've always been of the opinion that perks should not be countered by killer powers. Perks should counter perks. Otherwise what's the point in the perk? Why should I bring Borrowed Time if at least one fourth of the killer roster can nullify it? Also I don't feel like killer powers should grant them the ability to just be complete ######### in game just because they picked a certain killer and now there's no way to play other than do gens and leave one person to do nothing and depip.
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If perks are being brought into this then I could Dead hard and use my purple insta-heal so insidious wouldn’t work. Spine chill and premonition counter the stealth part of stealth killers, does that mean that no one should play stealth killers?
You also won’t always de-pip.
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If you have Dead Hard, and a purple insta heal(why are we still calling them insta heals anyways?) to use on yourself AND you're the one on the hook, sure. That's a lot of requirements for a common thing, but yeah, if you also were a killer without a way to reduce your TR, sure, this would work, it'd just be really hard to use all of those every game for such a common occurrence, especially, again, with the way rarities work, since you get far more red addons than purples.
Here's the thing about Spine Chill and Premonition and "stealth killers". Stealth killers don't exist. They're all just killers. They're not lumped into a class of killers. They have stealth abilities, sure, but that doesn't completely nullify them, and they generally have other abilities as well. Spine Chill works the same for any killer, when you think of it like that, same with Premonition. Pig's main goal isn't to be sneaky. It's part of her, but it's not her "role", so to call her a "Stealth Killer" feels wrong. Same for the others, except maybe Wraith. He's the only one I would consider being known as a "Stealth Killer" because that's literally all he has and all he's known for, and even then he has a loud bell that signals whether he went invisible or not(depending on addons). GhostFace doesn't have to be stealthy to stalk you. If he's leaning he can do it in plain view because you can't break him out from behind something(usually, he's buggy seeming with his reveal) and still get you to 100% unless you have some cover, and you don't ALWAYS have cover, and he will always make progress, so at some point he can still pop it on you. Not seeing him helps him, but it doesn't make him completely pointless if you can. So I disagree that those completely counter them. To some degree, yes, but it works the same for every killer. It doesn't discriminate. Some it just hurts a bit more. That's different than a perk being completely unusable because it's a certain killer.
Sure, just 95% of the time you will.
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That comes from a player that got no idea of the nerf and the maths behind it.
Sorry for interrupting you sir. Excuse me please.
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Before you leave, do you think the nerf war will ever stop?
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No...the war will last till eternity. Nothing to stop the bad word load of biased people.
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Sorry about your nurse.
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Next one on the list is ebon mori
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