They're going to "look" at spirit
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After finding out myself that Freddy has the highest kill rate, I'm more afraid of when they will "take a look" at him than Spirit.
I never cared nor was bothered by Spirit, but I will if they touch Freddy.
As for Spirit possibly getting nerfed, hopefully she won't become another Legion. We need killers who aren't just about being chased around a loop. Desperately.
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*grabs bucket of popcorn*
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Numbers get skewed because when they look at killer kill % they haven't mentioned if DC are included in that.
Freddy might have the highest kill rate but to be honest it is probably because less players disconnect against him, thus giving him more people to kill. Thats also why you see other really low tier killers having a higher kill rate than Nurse and Spirit.
More survivors are willing to play and even lose against killers they deem "fair".
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They’ve mentioned that they can filter dcs out.
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But are they counting the DC's as kills or not, because even filtered out there is statistically less survivors for nurse and spirit to kill than the other killers.
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welp I guess BHVR is showing their survivor bias again, nerfing a balanced and RED RANK VIABLE KILLER. eventually this will just make a problem of to few red rank killers and only red rank survivors, making red ranks unplayable for survivor so they either de rank to bully other killers which then in turn wont play killer. all this because people INSTEAD OF LEARNING HOW TO COUNTER JUST CRY CRY CRY. "waaaa I cant loop a M2 killer like an m1 killer NERF THEM!"
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Instead of making all killers viable in red ranks they are opting to nerf all red rank viable killers because they are "outperforming"? This has to be the dumbest excuse ever to get spirit gutted legion style.
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if they treat spirit like they treated nurse I will face camp every survivor as spirit with the name "want to cry about spirit? cry about this" (I know that is to long that is just what I will be typing to the people who complain about face campers) I don't face camp ever, at best I will proxy camp WHEN I KNOW people are around the hook looking for the unhook. but if BHVR caves into the survivor cries again with spirit then im gonna break this code of mine to never face camp
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Survivors complain about nurse's omegablink, they nerf her basekit.
Survivors complain about spirit's beads, they'll probably nerf her basekit as well...
Deja Vu anyone?
The only reason people complain about Nurse and Spirit is because they aren't countered by loops. They don't realize it's only dragging their skill down the toilet when they do this.
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You dont have to improve if every killer is countered by pallets, god why should I have to try to be smart? It's not like theres 4v1 or anything I should just be able to look at a killer and then theres no mindgame right? Or spirit is a coin flip? I could say the same about survivors and fake vaults/baits, it's a guess so what they do so it needs to be nerfed right guys?
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I mean, survivor mains expect a free escape. They expect you to give them an unhook. If they don't want there to be any killers capable of going against brainless looping... then they're going to get a lot worse behaviors back due to this.
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It'll make the survivors happy and they're the majority.
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I agree that Nurse was incredibly strong and viable in red ranks but with that same fact how do you think she performs below red rank. Brown - Purple any competent Nurse is almost 100% 4k.
Same with spirit to and extent. Obviously I'm not talking about new Nurses or Spirits, but players with actually some time on them and know how they work.
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Unfortunately it's the rule of the mob, isn't it?
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Happy customers are consuming customers.
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Well, but they're never proven to stay happy...
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We here at bhvr dont do that its always nerf till everything in line with other stuff
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They filter them out sure. But do they throw the whole match away if one survivor DCs? A 3v1 gives the killer the advantage where all four could potentially escape if one didn't DC.
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I’m not sure
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Won’t make me happy, I love facing her.
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Imagine being in this thread and complaining a killer with no non-perk related counters is getting nerfed.
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If she had no counter play at all without perks, why do chases without iron will last different amounts of time?
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Devs basically said that her kill ratio was too high and you guys are still crying lmao. Keep denying it all you want but she does need changing.
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Freddy's kill ratio is also high, but I don't see anyone screaming for him to be changed. Not that I don't advocate for Spirit to stay the same, she needs to be nerfed, but I hope not nerfed to the ground like Legion.
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Red rank trappers have an insane kill rate on pc I believe, I think he needs a nerf
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We don't have the exact stats though. Maybe it's like 80% kill ratio in red ranks or something.
I also don't want her nerfed to the ground. I would love to play as her more often but I just don't because I know how annoying she is for survivors.
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61% kill ratio to be exact but I don't think it was red ranks. We don't have the kill ratio of spirit on red ranks, could be a lot higher than that.
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So do I. Also likes facing Nurses. Makes it less of a merry-go-round simulator.
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Any dcs in the match could also break the results to look better, or people that just give up and sucide on first hook, like most do.
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Because you can still guess correctly. That's it.
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Alot of things are a guess, will billy break the pallet or fake it?, will huntress raise a hatchet, does hag/trapper have a trap placed at this pallet or window? Will the survivor vault or fake? It's a guess, spirit just makes the guess harder to read, you yourself cant be obvious or try to get her attention.
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the only thing I actually want is a third person vault animation for the survivors
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Spirit takes time to properly learn, like any killer. Playing her at brown ranks must mean that the player is unskilled, so they can't possibly get a 4k 100% of the time. I do understand your point though.
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And again another thread full of spirit/ killer mains trying to justify that she's fine and everyone needs to git gud. Despite there being NO logical counter play, her extremely high win rates, how delusional can you all be.
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I’m a survivor main, I think she is fine. Not everyone with a different opinion than you is a spirit/killer main.
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Ok survivors. Prepare for queue times longer than the Freddy's rework. If this is true I will have to become a survivor main.
Spirit is currently the only killer that can successfully deal with SWF but they want to legion her even though she is balanced.
Good job devs on listening to bad survivors who always DC and refuse to learn her counterplay
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Every post you make is how you're a survivor main, nobody cares.
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I hope when they are done nerfing Spirit because there is no doubt to me that it will happen, they will balance survivors around high level play as well.
Why not give us something to micro manage as well like a stamina bar or whatever they can come up with. A power bar for running, vaults etc...
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I heavily doubt anyone will like to have a stamina bar. It's basically telling survivors "Hey! You can't loop anymore!"
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can u share the source?
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This sounds childish as hell not gonna lie.
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Hell yea! Maybe now they'll make it so I won't fall asleep while getting chased by a spirit.
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BHVR would be surprised if they knew that people only play spirit and nurse at red ranks is because those are the only killers that stand a chance. If they buffed weaker killers there would be a higher variety and the game would be more fun for everyone. But hey, lets nerf this killer who people is using because is the only one capable of doing well against a BM SWF
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Seeing this really made my day. I don‘t care too much about how long it‘s gonna take, at least we basically have confirmation this broken mess of a Killer is getting changed.
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Then people start complaining there is only 1 killer being played in red ranks and that needs a nerf too till everyone is legion tier
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Looks like you guys are about to join our squad of victims from BHVR reworks. We have kleenex and mental support.
Our first recommendation is to quit this horrible game
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so is crying for nerfs on a killer who is fine but because they cant loop them they cry nerf
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