What do you all think about campers and on this idea?

That's only for other Survivors coming near you in phase 2.

Yeah, but he never mentioned what stage and I never use that perk anyway.

Kindred is definitely not a waste of a perk slot. It not only offers the team the ability to see if a killer is camping you, but also the ability to see if the killer is camping others, as well as granting you the ability to see all survivors when you would want to be able to see them most. Unless you play with a group, this perk is great utility

Something like that was tried before. Survivors abused the ######### out of it.

And if a killer wanted to camp, he would simply stand outside of that range.

I personally am not particularly bothered by camping whether playing survivor or killer. I only usually stick around the hook when survivors are rescue happy. I also have not witnessed more campers as of late.

Edit: Since some have misunderstood my use of the terms "rescue happy". I think the best way to describe it would be the survivors who jump to rescuing too soon. Also despite my name I frequently play survivor and attempt to maintain a 50/50 split.

Rescue happy? I mean *not* rescuing wrecks your benevolent emblem, almost guaranteeing losing a pip, and rescuing earns you BP so.... why wouldn't survivors be "rescue happy" exactly?

Finaly some one in this tread that said it. Thank you

I think Camping is a legit strategy when used properly. 5 gens left and you're camping, you're a moron and/or just want to be toxic. I don't think it needs fixed other than what they've done to date.

I absolutely hate getting camped on my first hook, but I don't really blame the Killer. I tend to blame the 3 lemmings who swarm the hook without BT looking to suck on the unhook BP teat. Instead of doing gens due to a Camping Killer (which my Kindred SHOWS), they crouch around, slowly move up to about 12 meters from the hook and sit there. Getting absolutely nothing done, when I will willingly sit here spamming my right shift button (rebind cause my spacebar doesn't need broken) so they can repair at LEAST 3 gens in the time it takes this idiot to roast his or her marshmallows and eat dem s'mores.

There are times when you need to camp a bit at higher ranks. Not at 5 gens left of course, but if you have a bunch of overly altruistic Survivors, camping a hook when a couple gens are done can net you some rewards. It's just really risky at high ranks because good Survivors will go back to gens when they see a Killer camping. You are better off light/heavy patrolling rather than a standing around camp though, because that keeps you mobile and can make potatoes think you are moving off the hook instead of coming immediately back to it in a few seconds.

Personally, I'd rather slug if I need to put indirect "pressure" on gens because it's minimal risk with a healthy reward. 1 player down, at least 1 person healing them, and me with a chance to get in a chase with another for a down. So that leaves 1 person on gens, or best case none if 2 go to heal the downed person. This also carries it's own inherent risks. SWF and the downed person has Unbreakable, no one leaves gens. Or something similar.

At low ranks, both strats are not needed because it's low ranks... but up into the reds, camping will net you some rewards if you notice Survivors behaving in altruistic and "must unhook as soon as possible" manners.

fwiw though, Camping is a legitimate strategy per the Developers, so I doubt anything beyond the -emblem malus will happen. If done improperly, or the Survivors just do gens, the Killer is punished badly for it.

Yeah. It's why I personally would patrol rather than actual Camp. When you camp, you put 0 pressure on Survivors and they can pretty much run wherever they want and blow you out of the match. If you are patrolling though, lots of things you can check in the vicinity without getting too far from the hook to get back there and either interrupt a save attempt, or get an easy hit in to begin another chase/hook event. I actually don't do either, but I'm sitting in low ranks right now until I can play a bit and get back to the purples.

Slugging, I hate it... but it really is necessary in some instances. I can feel the pain when 3 generators pop as you're hooking your first Survivor. You have to do something to slow down the pace of the game and give you time to get in some chases and hooks. And really, the absolute best thing is to slug someone. Especially if there's already one person on the hook. Slug the next, then go back to the hook and engage the rescuer and/or the unhooked one. You can get all the Survivors off of gens really quickly with a simple strategy.

It's just so annoying as a Survivor. It does have it's place as a strategy, but it's definitely not fun to be on the receiving end of it. Just the same as Camping though, when someone is slugging at 5 gens left, you know they are just a toxic moron out to ruin everyone elses' game because someone pissed in their Cheerios that morning. Those types of games I'll crawl to the most out of the way place and hope I can get a wiggle out, just to extend the game, get a few more BP, and maybe have someone get the hatch. Nothing more satisfying than to have Killer Tryhard Toxicass get outplayed because of an Unbreakable, Flip Flop, or similar Perk and someone gets the hatch on them.

Horrible idea and only survivor sided, nice bait btw