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What do you all think about campers and on this idea?
Aight guys is it me or is there just so many campers all over the ranks? Just the other day I went up against an Insidious camping bubba at rank 1. This is mad how these killers with this little skill can be up in the ranks just by camping. Worst part about it is that they don't pip and neither do the players. I have an idea though and maybe you all can give me your thoughts on it. Idea: What if they made a mechanic in the game where if the killer is near 8 meters of the hooked survivor, the hooked survivors timers don't go down. In my opinion I feel like this is a great idea but really hard to put in the game or at least i think so. Idk can I please hear feedback from anybody and share your thoughts on this
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There is already a perk that slows down the sacrifice timer.
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That's only for other Survivors coming near you in phase 2.
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You see what if you went solo survivor what are the chances of your teammates even having that perk?
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Yeah, but he never mentioned what stage and I never use that perk anyway.
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Yep there are a lot more killers camping these days. More than I get good killers who go looking for the rest of the survivors. But I don't think your idea would work very well. I use kindred a lot and I noticed that a lot of killers will just sit outside its radius which is up to 16m I think.
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My point lmao. No one would run it solo survivor
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Yep.
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Just run kindred. Killer camp, teammates do gens. If they don’t pressure by doing gens, and everyone is coming to rescue, they deserve to get caught.
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I can't lie that is a splendid idea but is it a waste of a perk slot?
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Kindred is definitely not a waste of a perk slot. It not only offers the team the ability to see if a killer is camping you, but also the ability to see if the killer is camping others, as well as granting you the ability to see all survivors when you would want to be able to see them most. Unless you play with a group, this perk is great utility
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Well thanks for letting me know. Very much appreciated
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Something like that was tried before. Survivors abused the ######### out of it.
And if a killer wanted to camp, he would simply stand outside of that range.
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I play Killer more thab Survivor for many reasons...but one that is very apparent are the ######### tunnlers that will immediately focus on a single Survivor over and over.... I find that even more frustrating than Campers tbh
Literally just ragequit a game because Killer found me, looped a bit, got downed...was unhooked and the Killer immediately went after me despite others being visibly around. He chases me, downs me..I DS him because of this stupid tactic Killers stick to, stun him and run away, get healed and immediately he's following me again... Just no, I didn't get a chance to do ANYTHING after waiting forever and a half for a Survivor game.
Like sure it's "part of the game" but realize how much of a douchebag you are to tunnel another person at the very start of a match and deny them doing anything. I main Killer and I can EASILY tell you that it's ridiculous to defend the tactic of tunneling and camping so soon in a match...
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I personally am not particularly bothered by camping whether playing survivor or killer. I only usually stick around the hook when survivors are rescue happy. I also have not witnessed more campers as of late.
Edit: Since some have misunderstood my use of the terms "rescue happy". I think the best way to describe it would be the survivors who jump to rescuing too soon. Also despite my name I frequently play survivor and attempt to maintain a 50/50 split.
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Really depends on the rank and if you are playing survivor. They are practically all over the ranks not as much in green or purple. Well there are quite a bit in purple but that is besides the point. You really have to be in low or very high ranks to see them. Or that is at least where I see them shine
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Feels bad man, I can't really blame you for disconnecting in those types of situations.
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Well you haven't noticed them probably cause you r playing killer.... cause they do it all the time. Or just go and proximity camp.
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Rescue happy? I mean *not* rescuing wrecks your benevolent emblem, almost guaranteeing losing a pip, and rescuing earns you BP so.... why wouldn't survivors be "rescue happy" exactly?
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Nah, the upcoming Ruin nerf is more than enough breathing room for survivors lmao.
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This has to be a joke right?
Survivors abuse every mechanic in the game and you are complaining about camping and tunneling?
Survivors never show any sportsmanship to a killer by luring killers to the strongest loops in-game but killers are supposed to play fair and square?
Survivors body block, blind, abuse second chance perks, stun, bring map offerings to aggravate/bully and dc when losing to stop the killer from scoring points.
It takes 2 minutes to die on a hook and if nobody is willing to take a hit or trade with you then that's on your team not the killer.
Camping is one of the only strats other than slugging to force survivors off gens and into chase's.
You could be hooked in the basement, the strongest hook in-game and still be Yolo saved easily with teamwork.
Not every killer can protect the basement like trapper but every survivor has the ability to equip perks to save themselves/ their teammates from any situation at least once.
If anything the hook timer should be reduced to encourage survivors to actually play the game instead of sitting on gens and wasting time by playing immersively imo
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I'm guessing the way they abused it was by staying around the hooked Survivor to stall more time?
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Finaly some one in this tread that said it. Thank you
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Dang chief, seems like you play with only toxic survivors. Feels bad man. Though if you know how to let's say mind game and counter loops then it seems like you are in a good position. Unless you know you are versing the usual toxic swf groups then I can't really argue with your point that uou would want to camp someone. But I don't think camping is a strategy. Usually just shows that you have had enough.
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I think Camping is a legit strategy when used properly. 5 gens left and you're camping, you're a moron and/or just want to be toxic. I don't think it needs fixed other than what they've done to date.
I absolutely hate getting camped on my first hook, but I don't really blame the Killer. I tend to blame the 3 lemmings who swarm the hook without BT looking to suck on the unhook BP teat. Instead of doing gens due to a Camping Killer (which my Kindred SHOWS), they crouch around, slowly move up to about 12 meters from the hook and sit there. Getting absolutely nothing done, when I will willingly sit here spamming my right shift button (rebind cause my spacebar doesn't need broken) so they can repair at LEAST 3 gens in the time it takes this idiot to roast his or her marshmallows and eat dem s'mores.
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The camping is a "legit strategy" part I don't get but I am intrigued. Are you talking about like camping/guarding gens?
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Also It sucks when you are in the high ranks and they just swarm the hook without bt. Rarely happens but really frustrating when it does
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It is very stupid of your teammates not doing the objective when the killer is camping one survivor. Cause not only is the killer stupid for camping the survivor when they can be guarding gens but the survivors are even more stupid for not taking the opportunity to do the objective.
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Camping already has a real great counter, DO THE GENS, punish the camper for their decision.
Remember the 2 die and 2 get free balance point BHVR is shooting for, well DO THE GENS while buddy stands there doing nothing.
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That was well said not gonna lie
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I believe the more stressful thing than the killer camping you is that the other survivors stand near you and you think hopefully they have bt. *A second after they unhook you* they don't have bt. Plus some of the survivors that you know aren't "the sharpest tool in the shed" stand near you and eventually never save you cause of how scared they are of a CAMPING killer. Like COME ON, are you really afraid of a camping killer that probably doesn't have much skill? Some survivors just aren't smart which sucks when you have those types of survivors in a solo que.
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Let everybody play how they want (as long as there is no cheating/exploiting). If they want to Insidious-LF-meme, let them.
The killer is not the fun provider for survivors.
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Maybe it is due to recent announced changes? Like you ruin the fun of somebody he is gonna ruin yours in return.
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That would make a lot of sense seeing as some survivors try and ruin the killers day so yeah I guess it would make sense to try and ruin the survivors day. Though camping is as scummy as looping and other things that I can't quite remember.
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There are times when you need to camp a bit at higher ranks. Not at 5 gens left of course, but if you have a bunch of overly altruistic Survivors, camping a hook when a couple gens are done can net you some rewards. It's just really risky at high ranks because good Survivors will go back to gens when they see a Killer camping. You are better off light/heavy patrolling rather than a standing around camp though, because that keeps you mobile and can make potatoes think you are moving off the hook instead of coming immediately back to it in a few seconds.
Personally, I'd rather slug if I need to put indirect "pressure" on gens because it's minimal risk with a healthy reward. 1 player down, at least 1 person healing them, and me with a chance to get in a chase with another for a down. So that leaves 1 person on gens, or best case none if 2 go to heal the downed person. This also carries it's own inherent risks. SWF and the downed person has Unbreakable, no one leaves gens. Or something similar.
At low ranks, both strats are not needed because it's low ranks... but up into the reds, camping will net you some rewards if you notice Survivors behaving in altruistic and "must unhook as soon as possible" manners.
fwiw though, Camping is a legitimate strategy per the Developers, so I doubt anything beyond the -emblem malus will happen. If done improperly, or the Survivors just do gens, the Killer is punished badly for it.
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So you are just checking the area for VERY altruistic survivors? I don't think that counts as camping unless you stay there for a large proportion of the match. Also, THANK GOD someone that plays killer mentioned slugging. Some of the killers just said survivors are toxic and need to be nerfed
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Yeah. It's why I personally would patrol rather than actual Camp. When you camp, you put 0 pressure on Survivors and they can pretty much run wherever they want and blow you out of the match. If you are patrolling though, lots of things you can check in the vicinity without getting too far from the hook to get back there and either interrupt a save attempt, or get an easy hit in to begin another chase/hook event. I actually don't do either, but I'm sitting in low ranks right now until I can play a bit and get back to the purples.
Slugging, I hate it... but it really is necessary in some instances. I can feel the pain when 3 generators pop as you're hooking your first Survivor. You have to do something to slow down the pace of the game and give you time to get in some chases and hooks. And really, the absolute best thing is to slug someone. Especially if there's already one person on the hook. Slug the next, then go back to the hook and engage the rescuer and/or the unhooked one. You can get all the Survivors off of gens really quickly with a simple strategy.
It's just so annoying as a Survivor. It does have it's place as a strategy, but it's definitely not fun to be on the receiving end of it. Just the same as Camping though, when someone is slugging at 5 gens left, you know they are just a toxic moron out to ruin everyone elses' game because someone pissed in their Cheerios that morning. Those types of games I'll crawl to the most out of the way place and hope I can get a wiggle out, just to extend the game, get a few more BP, and maybe have someone get the hatch. Nothing more satisfying than to have Killer Tryhard Toxicass get outplayed because of an Unbreakable, Flip Flop, or similar Perk and someone gets the hatch on them.
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Well said. Now PREACH IT
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Horrible idea and only survivor sided, nice bait btw
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I think there are campers, of course. However, I think campers are far less common than people think or would have you believe.
"Killer hooked me, saw my team mates around the hook (or scratch marks) and didn't leave the hook, so he camped". That's pretty much the standard. If I know someone is near, I'm not going anywhere.
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Bait? XD I bet you might be one of those campers. I don't really care about people trying to hate. This is punishment for hook campers. They want to ruin another person's day well they are pretty messed up so it benefits the survivors because if the killer just wants to be a douche to some survivors playing for fun then I guess be punished for trying to ruin someone's day
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No i mean 5 gens left and just stares at the survivor or the survivor just loops them well with no toxicity and just gets them and camps but still good point
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I mean, there will always be some players like that. You also need to keep in mind, camping is only viable because survivors allow it to be viable. Survivors have all the tools at their disposal to both prevent, and punish it.
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You do realize that if a survivors loops the killer next to the hook they can abuse your WONDERFULL pusnihment? And sometimes you fight against really altruistic swf groups that goes instantly for the save the second you leave the hook, in this situation you have 2 or 3 survivors that stay near to that hook and wait until you leave it, in that case a smart killer would just stay on the hook because survivors waste their time and not do gens.
Here I tried to explain that to you but I bet you will not understand this at all
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No dude that is clear I thought you didn't understand lmao.
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Also I think this was discussed earlier too. Lol
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Campers are totaly ok. Its kind of trade. If He is camping one survivor, you can progress gens. It will buy you a lot of time. Totaly fair.
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Yeah and you didnt answer to @ReallyBigShoe after he gave a really constructive and well answer to you :)
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Lol yeah it is fun when the killers don't realize that. Not so much for the camped survivor though :/. Plus the killer doesn't pip and neither does that survivor so even bigger sad
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Well said. Not much to say because it was very well said
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Its legit tactic and its balanced. By camping killer loses so much time that rest of team can finish 1-2 gens so its fair trade + hook proximity. Plus survivors has perks to counter it like DS, BT or deliverance. Any playing with this mechanism will lead to huge nerf of killers again.
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