Unfun and frustrating to play against: The Ghostface

"no counter play"

*Sad Spine Chill noises*

FR run that perk and make the killer cry. Doesn't only help against stealth killers tho

LEAVE.GHOSTFACE.ALONE.LEAVE. ALL CHARACTERS. ALONE. QUIT.WHINING. GET BETTER.

you can loop him around pallets all day.

Only thing wrong with GF is the wonky reveal system. Other than that, git gud

I'm sorry are we actually defending this buggy catastrophe of a killer's mechanics just for the sake of avoiding any criticism directed at killers in this game?

Ghostface's reveal doesn't work properly. It's inconsistent. Sometimes you're looking at him with nothing in the way and he gets revealed. Sometimes you can reveal him through walls. Earlier in the patch you could literally stalk people you had no vision of.

But have fun using your eyes. Some clips of you playing and revealing him properly consistently would be a good thing, since we're blatantly ignoring the many hours of footage of GF being buggy.

A partial irony of the ruin nerf is that as a new player, you're much more likely to get ghostface every 4th or 5th game. He's that common. GF just absolutely destroys new squads.

Last GF I dealt with that camped or was tunneling was in yellow and green ranks.

I get where you're coming from but I can see why people are getting fed up with any proposals being made. Mainly because half the time when some users are suggesting a fix they're bundling it with proposed nerfs which Ghostface doesn't need. Pretty sure all of us can come to an agreement that his reveal needs fixed. His basekit outside of that though doesn't need changed. (Not saying you said this I just get where the other dude is coming from)

I of course am biased as I play a lot of Ghostface without addons. I've seen enough issues on both ends that I know it's mostly odd things obstructing or in some cases not obstructing when they should or shouldn't. As I said though just give Ghostface a subtle tell sign like a crosshair that appears when you're in the process of revealing him. At least then you'd be certain when the feature is and isn't working and it would be clear that it's center screen of your game screen / monitor.

The clip with Scott though pretty sure he had his screen centered at Ghostface's feet and not the rest of the body. The reveal zone only seems to work well when at the center of Ghostface's turso.

Yes his head was covering Ghostface but Ghostface wasn't centered on the screen. Not disagreeing it's a stupid feature but it's not survivor model POV its player POV that needs to be centered to reveal.

GF won't be nerfed.

And that's kinda part of the point though. There's no clear indication or feedback of how you have to reveal him. If it's that specific then the mechanic sucks in the first place, working properly or not.

We don't need killers who are strong because bugs make them inconsistent and weird to go against, we need killers to be strong because they're strong.

I 100% agree with you on the tell. The fun of playing GF for me is playing hide and seek with the survivors in order to not get revealed. When it works properly it's extremely fun. And even when the reveal works he's still a strong killer, and there's plenty the killer can do to avoid gettng revealed before fully stalking.

It makes my head explode when the same people that are quick to complain about "survivor bias" complain when the community asks for this buggy dumpster fire of a killer to work properly

Well, when any footage gets posted people start whiteknighting with "you didn't do the entire ritual of locating him in the magical box and praying to RNGesus while doing a handstand in the altar" because if a mechanic sucks majorly it doesn't matter if it works properly sometimes so i'm not wasting my time

"I have evidence"

"Provide that evidence"

"I can't because it wouldn't matter"

THis post damn near sounds like the person who wrote that god awful Doc and Ruin changes article. awwww, its bad for you that another intelligent human can outwork you with abilities intended to be useful? awwww

Hope you survivor only mains that genuinely want the game to be impossible to lose enjoy having half the killers in the player pool soon. If even that much.

I mean I won't waste time on people who already chose to believe something else and are completely disregarding everyone else's experience. Fortunately I don't need that to sleep at night.

Google is your friend

Not in the mood to deal with sealioning

Yeah, lets nerf another killer because they’re annoying for survivors, just like poor doc

Just fix his detection to be less unreliable, that's all he needs. Besides that, he's perfectly fine

First of all I'll agree his reveal mechanic is pretty buggy but it's so damn easy to reveal him. Just get him to come close to you, ambush him and when he tries to stalk you just stand inside of him. You can phase through Myers and GF when they're stalking. So stand inside of GF and reveal him. You'll almost never get exposed again. The no TR or Red Glow argument is weak. And the fact you call everyone above Purple sweaty hurts my head. So many ppl suck so much ass and are in high ranks. And you can hear him coming if he's within like 8m away from you. His cloak makes a blowing through the wind sound. And you can also genrush the ######### outta him so there's more counterplay. But speaking of "frustrating yo play against" you know Bubba is rather hard to counter considering he can just camp the top of the basement stairs. Probably should nerf him too.

Treating this as not bait: GF doesn't bother me a bit. Yeah some of them are bad, but I wouldn't generally consider him among the worst. He's one of the most utilized killers in high ranks, too, so it makes sense that the bad ones would stick out more.

Freddy, on the other hand... annoys the absolute f@$& out of me. Not because he's difficult to play against, but mostly because of his ugly pedophile face... and the fact that people who main him have a strange tendency to play like sweaty tryhard dbags. Like honestly, it's almost all of them. It's fun looping him around if you can, but if he gets you once he will tunnel you into the ground and let 4 gens pop to do it. Then he'll hit you repeatedly on hook to show you how cool and edgy he is. I swear I always imagine some 11-year-old punk kid on the other end when I play against a Freddy. Like the ones who used to tell me messed up stuff about my mom on CoD years ago. 😂