Block the “SWF” option
Too many advantages which solo players will never have.
SWF players can abuse certain builds to bully killers (saboing with breakout, full heal party, or just 4 meta perks, the only ability to coordinate perks and other stuff is too strong).
SWF can be a reason why matchmaking sux (tofu video).
The problems can be solved very easily.
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SWF is main cashcow in this game.. they WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER punish SWF. Without SWF this game would be dead years... yes you are absolutely right in everything. Every killer and solo survivor hates SWF to the bones..
And you cant punish players for playing with their friends.. I hate SWF as well but you just cant do it.. this game isnt made for SWF groups thats why matchmaking, ques, ranking system, problems with early game speed, gen speed are so broken.
No creating new game mode for only SWF players will never be created, becasue no one sane would wants to go playing against them..They cant split base even more.. Look on current survivors ques its insane long..
Devs knows it, but they cant admit it that its broken and they have milion advantages, if they do it will be their grave. Thats why they are trying to remake perks like kindred to help solo and new survivors, they are not remaking or nerfing but destroying ruin only becasue new survivors and solo players.
Sadly everything you do even slight buff for survivor will huuugly increase SWF even more.. Yes they know it, but cant do nothing about it..
And most of the players are playing with SWF so they are just stuck in their own shitness hole and have no idea what to do..
Look at cosmetic ratio survivor :killer. That will tell you everything.
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They won't do it because too many people would leave. The developers made a choice that would appeal to more people and make it more group friendly, at the expense of the initial design of the game. This wasn't a bad move overall, but they have not and probably will never actually balance the game around the group advantages they have. They don't want to give the killers enough of an advantage to actually deal with the 4v1 scenario. Usually when you bring this up you are going to be met with "git gud", "pReSsUrE gEnS", "I have no problem getting consistent 4ks on all killers even at rank 1" (with no evidence btw) or the now popular "just don't play to win, play to have fun." It's really backwards way of thinking in my opinion, but because people see the game as being 80% survivor and 20% killer, they will lean towards appeasing the survivor community. This has lead to an increase in the amount of Killer players either leaving or switching to survivor; which then this has lead to an increase in queue times for survivors, both solo and swf groups. It seems much of the community, at least on these forums that the developers seem to listen to, would rather claim it is a bug in matchmaking than admit the problem. If the rumors are true, they are just going to open the matchmaking to pair any survivor team with any rank of killer and then hide the rankings to mask this change. Again, I know its just a rumor, but if they do this, it would make it even more apparent that they don't actually want to fix the issues in the game, just keep diverting attention and tempering expectations.
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SWF does need to be addressed, they need to buff Solo's to SWF levels.
You cannot expect people to not play with their friends, that's just foolish and it comes from a place of anger and frustration.
When Solo's are buffed to SWF levels, Killer's can be buffed accordingly and (hopefully) maps can be adjusted in size.
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I agree. This absolutely has to be done, but the developers have been saying this for 2 years that they are going to be doing this, but have yet to actually do it.
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Imo Killer's should have an option to just turn it off in settings. Then BHVR will quickly see the real problem in this game, very quickly. When suddenly solo que survivors start getting games a lot faster, and SWF's don't find any games at all.
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1) You can't stop friends from playing together.
2) You didn't realized that if they remove SWF, the game will die the next day.
SWF is part of the game long time ago.
Deal with it or whatever...
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Well I really hope this isn't a no-compromises stance of yours, because in that case you're better off uninstalling and never looking back. There will never be mechanical nerfs or handicaps applied to SWF parties, and especially no attempts of removing it or the use of VOIP applications.
This is why most discussion about the topic is about alternative ideas. Be it indicators in the lobby, changing base survivors and killers (this is the "buff solo efficiency and killers that need it" approach) and so on. They actually have a non-zero probability of ever happening.
It's also not "bullying" for people to use things in the game.
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