How to counter a gen rush

Great answer. Sometimes I face the same issue. But the main problem is not being able to find them then when I patrol they get two gens done at once. Craziness.

I recommend using Discordance (A teachable perk for Legion). It highlights a generator's aura if it's being repaired by two survivors.

@CamaroThunder24

how to counter gen-rushing

pressure

You need to exude "pressure" as a Killer, to do this, Killers like Billy, Spirit, etc, can usually down someone in a matter of seconds if they're skilled enough. Why is that? Because of their powers, Billy has an chainsaw that allows him to sprint forward and down any Survivors that're in the healthy or injured state, once hit, they of course go into the dying state.

For Spirit, she has the ability to phase walk at an incredible rate (a lot faster than her normal movement speed), this allows her to gain a hit on a Survivor and phase walk to them right after for a quick down.

Killers like these will naturally down Survivors quickly which exudes "pressure" onto the other Survivors to rescue them. More pressure means less Survivors are working on generators to save their teammates, less generators being worked on means a quicker win and less stress on YOU the Killer.

For other Killers, you'll want to utilize what their powers offer and focus on those aspects, master this and you'll eventually get it down to a T, but some Killers will still struggle with this more than others, so keep that in mind. Not every Killer is equal, some require more effort than others and are less effective the higher you get in the ranks.

perks

Since Ruin is being changed soon, you'll either have to use other perks as an alternative or mix up your builds to counter-act gen rushing. Since you're new, it's best to use these builds to help you better understand how every Killer (or a set of Killers) work in the future. Once you're familiar with how a Killer works, than you can start experimenting with other builds OUTSIDE of gen regression... just to mix things up.

For now though, i'll give a list of a few perks that'll help you fight against "gen rushing". Before I do this though, I just want to say this.

Perks like NOED that instill dependence within new players is not something I recommend YOU use. If you want to use it than by all means, but I personally think you should avoid NOED all together. Why? Mainly because of that one word I said, "dependence", the perk can cause newer players to grow dependent on it overtime which causes them to eventually have a tougher time without it.

But besides that, here's a list of some perks you'll want to work on getting for the future:

• Corrupt Intervention [A Plague perk] (This is one of the few perks that a lot of players will argue is better than pre/post rework Ruin and for good reasons of course! In short, Corrupt Intervention blocks 3 of the farthest generators from your spawn for 80/100/120 seconds depending on the tier it's in. Very useful for monitoring less generators at the start and finding Survivors that spawn at the blocked generators that're far away.)
• Hex: Huntress Lullaby [A Huntress perk] (When this perk is near max or max tokens it's by far a lot better than Pre-Ruin in some regards, especially when paired with the right perks. Huntresses Lullaby gives a 2%/4%/6% regression penalty for any missed Skill checks when it's active, but what really makes this perk shine is the token build up it can produce. 1 to 4 tokens will cause the skill-check warning notification, which is the audio noise you get before a skill-check appears, to become slightly shorter in its warning for every token that's piled onto the perk. Eventually when you hit 5 tokens the audio warning for any skill-check will not appear anymore, making it harder to focus on skill-checks if a Killer is nearby in a chase or just to focus on it for example.)
• Hex: Ruin [A Hag perk] (For this explanation, i'll only be talking about the 3.5.0 version that's coming from the PTB soon. The new Ruin now applies a 200% regression bonus to the already normal regression penalty when a generator is kicked, and it does so by damaging the generator immediately after a Survivor gets off it. What this means is, if a Survivor is working on a generator and you walk up to it while they're in a bush or something, than you don't have to waste time kicking the generator, instead you just walk up to it and search for the hiding Survivor while the generator regresses. This opens up a good combo with Discordance and Surveillance, as Surveillance will apply white auras to any damaged Survivors and Discordance gives you a notification for any generators that have 2 or more Survivors on it. Its up to you to decide if this is a good change or not, but if not, than Corrupt Intervention and PGTW is a good alternative.)
• Pop Goes the Weasel [A Clown perk] (This one is simple, after you hook a Survivor Pop Goes the Weasel will activate. Once active you have 40/50/60 seconds to kick a generator and apply a 25% flat regression penalty to it. Unlike other perks that work off of progressive generator damage, Pop Goes the Weasel or PGTW applies a straight forward 25% debuff to the generator. Meaning if the generator was on 50% and you kick it with PGTW, it'll go down to 25% and than continue with the normal regression rate afterwards. With Pre-Rework Ruin this perk was a deady combo with old Ruin, but now you can't use it with the new Ruin since new Ruin automatically damages any generators once a Survivor or Survivors get off it. So, this perk is now better suited with Corrupt Intervention, as the generators that're not blocked can be kicked with PGTW when it's active. The perk itself is very good without Ruin too, but if you want even more potential with halting generator speed, than it's best to combine it with another gen-stopping perk.)
• Nurse's Calling [A Nurse perk] (This isn't a gen-stopping perk, but it ties into applying pressure. Simply put, Nurse's Calling will reveal the aura of any Survivors that're healing within 20/22/24 meters of the Killer. So in a sense, you can easily down any injured Survivors that're healing nearby and apply even more pressure by hooking them afterwards to get some Survivors off the generators. Since most teams are not a SWFs, one or more Survivors will come to rescue them.)
• Discordance [A Legion perk] (Any generators that has 2 or more Survivors working on it will apply a yellow aura to the generator for 8/10/12 seconds. A hidden feature to Discordance is that it'll also give you a visual and auditory notification when this happens, as well as the yellow aura. This will let you know for sure that 2 or more Survivors are rushing 1 generator, in or out of a chase! This is pretty good when combined with the new Ruin and Surveillance, so if you want to try that new combo in 3.5.0, than you'll want to get this with Surveillance.)
• Surveillance [A Pig perk] (This is an important perk to get when using the new Ruin, as any generators that're damaged by Post-Rework Ruin will automatically apply this perks effects on it. Surveillance's shtick is that any damaged generators that're damaged by Ruin or the Killer will be given a white aura afterwards. If a Survivor eventually works on this generator again, than the white aura will turn to yellow for 8/12/16 seconds, which means a Survivor is on that generator again or they tapped it. Also, the white aura will stay on that generator until either a Survivor gets back on it OR if the progress on it is back to 0%. If it goes back to 0% by itself, than the aura will automatically turn red instead of yellow to indicate this.)
• BBQ & Chili [A LeatherFace perk] (This perk is amazing for tracking Survivors. Once you hook a downed Survivor, any Survivors outside of a 40 meter radius from that hook will reveal their auras to you for 4 seconds. This allows you to decide where to go to next and apply even more pressure afterwards if you down that Survivor you went to! Also, BBQ & Chili gives 50%/75%/100% bonus BPs during the post-game, if your BBQ & Chili is Tier lll than you can gain a 25% bonus for every Survivor that hasn't been hooked yet, hooking the same Survivor doesn't give another token, it's only 1 token per Survivor.)
• Thanatophobia [A Nurse perk] (The last perk I wanted to add here is more of a Killer specific perk. While it works on every Killer, it's best used on Killers that can easily damage other Survivors. Why is that? Well, Thanatophobia gives a 3%/3.5%/4% stack-able penalty to Repair, Healing, and Sabotage Speeds, each percentage that's given is based on how many Survivors are in the injured state. This perk stacks with other perks AND goes up to a 12%/14%/16% penalty to these action speeds by itself. Now, it works with all Killers of course since enough injured Survivors will apply a bigger penalty, but it works best with Killers like Legion and Plague. These Killers can keep the Survivors constantly injured or mostly injured, Plague keeps them constantly injured to avoid her Super Vomit if they heal, and Legion can put them in that injured state a an easier and faster pace. In some cases, people stop healing against Legion as well because of this, so this perk works best with Legion and Plague. Other Killers like Billy, Nurse, and Spirit can also work with this perk, but it's usually best on Legion and Plague.

I might have missed some perks, but this is basically what you'll want to get for gen-stopping and Pressure applying perks. There are some other perks that could help with applying pressure or add more penalties to generator speed, but some of those require specific Killers, just like the perk I listed above (Thanatophobia).

your spawn

One of the last bits I want to add is where you spawn when the game begins. If you spawn in a far off area from a lot of generators, than you'll want to go to those generators that're the farthest away from where you spawned.

Why? Because Survivors usually spawn far away from the Killer, and it's mostly at generators or close-by to said generators. Of course though, one or two Survivors can spawn closer to your spawn at a decent distance or fairly close distance, but for the most part they'll all spawn at the farthest generators or semi-farthest generators.

If you go to the farthest generators and don't hear any Survivors working on a generator/see any Survivors in-general nearby it, than they're usually sneaking around that area or not there. It's best to give the area a once over and than move on, since if you spend too much time there for a Survivor that may or may not be there than a Survivor that's on another generator can gain more progress on it, since you're wasting time at another area.

So do keep this in mind when you first spawn in, if you're on a Killer that doesn't need an immediate set-up time to lay traps like Trapper, Hag, or Demogorgons portals, than you should go there immediately as your first target to monitor.

conclusion

I hope this adds some new information to these perks that were suggest above, and any new perks that were added by me.

Hopefully I added in some new perks above or at least gave insight to their combos and information you might've not known. Hope this helps at least!

Stay safe out there,

see you in the fog.

Didn't I add that?

Unless this wasn't for what I wrote, than yeah it doesn't work with PGTW anymore because of the automatic regression penalty that applies now.

But that only happens when they get off the generators, not when they're on it.

Simple mistake, I also misread some things from time to time.

I try to simplify what I write to not make it any longer than it has to be, so sometimes it doesn't make much sense from first glance. That, and it sometimes gets strung along a lot due to how much I type out in one comment.

Thank you! I do appreciate that, I try my best to help everyone out on this sub-forum and other sub-forums as well.

Also, I can see why that would make you not see that part. There is so much to read in that perk description alone, and walking and skimming through it can of course have that happen ha ha.

But thank you for the kind words, it really does let me know that my work is helping people out.

That's why I said below the perk list "I might have missed some perks, but this is basically what you'll want to get for gen-stopping and Pressure applying perks."

Whispers is a good tracking perk, but for a noob it can be complicated and not that useful for some Killers. That's kind of why I left it out, plus the perk is a universal perk... so he can get it on any Killer while he levels up his Blood-Webs.

But yes, its pretty good in the right hands

You for sure can, plenty of perks and strategies can avoid gen rushing all together in some cases.

If a team is good enough, they'll circumvent this yes, but it's up to the Killer to match skill over skill. Saying you can't will just deter him from even trying, he by all means should try.

Glad I could help out!

Hope it works out for you in-game!

No, personally I don't think they work that well together for many different reasons.

For one, Dying Light and Huntresses Lullaby are two polarizing perks, one works off of regressing generator progression with tokens and the other works off of just hindering the players perception of how fast a notification plays for a skill-check.

It could work, since they DO require a build up, but alone... it's not that useful. If Corrupt Intervention was involved as well or Thanatophobia at least, than it would be more worth it to add it into the perk slot.

If it's a stand-alone perk with Huntresses Lullaby, than I personally don't think it's worth a slot. As those slots could've used better tracking or pressure perks, or other such perks like Corrupt could've taken the slot with Huntresses.

I don't know, that's up to you to find out I suppose (what you're missing or failing to consider that is).

In my opinion, if you can utilize the most niche of builds than go for it! But that's why people also suggest perks and builds to others, if they can also make use of it than more power to them.

That polarizing part was also from a erased sentence, but I guess I left it in there. My point was that the build up for them and the combination is there, but Dying Light alone is not enough in my opinion, especially when paired with a perk like Huntresses Lullaby, since that perk mostly focuses on a different aspect of halting generator progress, it isn't like Thanatophobia or Dying Light which goes off of a percentage based penalty.