so, how is that "late game hex perk" working for everyone?

New ruin is more worth running for me because I use killers such as Myers which pretty much forced survivors off gens, otherwise I will tier up becomes more useful. Also because of how long it can be to tier up as Myers, I would usually be in the same place for while allowing the gen to regress. I used to suffer issues where I would have to damage the gens, which would just give survivors more distance between me. So I personally prefer new ruin and think the game should focus more on adding new objective, but so far gen speeds are okay for me. If a survivor decides to gen rush, they usually won’t pip, if I slug for a 4K quickly I usually won’t pip. I think it’s fair for both sides.

@SteelDragon

I don't know if you're interested, but I just tried ruin + surveillance + discordance on Demo, ruin didn't last longer than two minutes but it still gave me some information that allowed to me to pressure the gens early in game, injure a couple of survivors and get a hook right after a gen was completed. After it got cleansed surveillance and discordance were still giving me useful information and I placed my portals near the remaining gens; survivors either gave away their position or wasted time closing the portals. In the end one guy rage quit to give his swf buddy the hatch and I didn't get the pip I deserved. Feels bad, but whatever.

But I think it's necessary to point out that I've completely changed my playstyle since the update; I no longer try to hook everyone three times, instead I focus on hooking two survivors 3 times (6 hooks) while injuring/slugging the other two or at least making them waste a pallet.

which one? noed? works pretty good lol

That would be a good change to add to give it some more power. Once it's destroyed any gens that were regressing still regress until interacted with by the survivors.

I don't know, I stopped using it after the nerf. But fron what I've seen of it as survivor, it's awful.

Pretty good, though i get more use out of it early game than late game.

Idk why they said late game, but it's actually working quite well early game.

What we need for Ruin is some quick old-map updates, not one map every Killer rework.

what about new kilers like me? don't even have ruin, get completely gen rushed when i'm trying to use doctor

The games ive played against the new ruin as a survivor, I didnt even notice. It is so rarely used now and makes no difference against high level survivors, if the totems not cleansed in the first 30 seconds someone else hops on the gen if a survivor gets pulled off. Even the when the gen gets fully regressed, its still stupid fast to hop on the gen and finish it with another survivor or solo.

Its primary use is location of survivors when used with surveillance, and only really useful on high mobility killers. If you have the high mobility basekit, PGTW and surveillance has been working out better overall for me as a killer. No one cleanses it the first 30 seconds of the game and its faster than ruin if you keep downing and hooking survivors and kicking the important gens, as survivors cant just tap the gen to stop that 25% regression.

First game or two it was okay, it got taken out right away but whatever. I still got my 4ks. But oh, wait, my third match and on I got gen rushed and had all red ranks when I am a green rank.