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Make BBQ and chili a HEX
All I see is BBQ and Chili on every killer, putting it as a hex would make it fair for survivors and killers.
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Why? is already a very bad perk except for high mobility killers.
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The killer can't see you with bbq while you're in a locker.
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Yeah and when it's gone killers can just facecamp. Why not.
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Some maps don't have lockers close enough.
The lack of skill coming from killers now a days is disgusting.
All I see now that ruin is gone pretty much is BBQ and chill with Pop Goes the weasel and Nurses calling and Discordance.
Why do killers need so many aura reading abilities? There is no skill playing a killer.
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Aura reading builds are on both killer and survivors.
They aren't the best and aren't the worst, so... It's in a good spot?
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They should limit how many times you can use DS but for Adrenaline and BT and Unbreakable and DH I think they are fine the way they are.
The lack of skill coming from killers now a days is sad, Why do you need to have aura reading perks to find survivors? There is Gens highlighted around the map.
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I'm pretty sure if you're desperate you can try to hide your aura behind that of a gen
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Weird perk to complain about tbh. It'd barely be used if it didn't have the bloodpoint effect.
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If I could fix this game I would have the Aura reading abilities limited heavily.
This game is supposed to be a Hide and Go Seek kinda game but the Aura reading abilities kill the game.
Right now Killers are so OP is sad.
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As a survivor main, I respect that Barbecue and Chili can give the killer an edge, but do not agree with you that using it means you have no skill. Killers have to keep track of four people and stop five generators from popping. That requires a lot of skill at high ranks. Even with Barbecue and Chili killers can be destroyed at high ranks. I would really like to know what tangible issues you see with the perk and have a discussion about it.
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Excuse me for using the best perks to play competitively. Should I put on lightweight, vigil, lithe, and resilience? Seriously, what do you consider a crutch?
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I use it just because of the BP bonuses, I don't think it has helped me hook anyone lately. No need to do anything to it.
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Nice bait. That right there would kill their game.
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Sorry, my mistake the killer tunneled me, downed me, camped me, or chased me. I should get better at the game to avoid these easily preventable situations.
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I almost think that the aura reading should be basekit as it gives an alternative to camping, but that's just me!
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people falling for this bait lmfao
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Ok bait, ill give it a 5/10
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Uh no, just no... Nice bait though lmfao
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OP is a true Master Baiter.
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I don't personally use second chance perks, unless you think I'm not allowed to run BT even though I pretty much only use it for we'll make it synergy. My point is, if you don't want to get camped, tunneled, slugged, or downed quickly there are perks there to alleviate your pain. I also use exhaustion perks, not because I rely on them to cover up my mistakes, but to learn how to make best use of them to be of the most benefit to my team.
Also side question: is we'll make it a or s tier? In solo it is probably only a but in swf I can consistently half heal speed, buying my mates a lot of time in chase.
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I am dead serious about this being a hex.
Nurse's calling you have to hide and be far away to heal to counter it.
Bitter murmur requires you to finish a generator for the killer to see you.
Making BBQ and chili a hex or a scream silhouette would make the perk more fair.
Having finished hooking a survivor you can easily just walk to where you saw the survivor (How does that require skill?)
It's sad that killers need so many aura reading abilities to find survivors when you can easily just listen for whining from them or scratch marks from them running.
It literally takes no skill to be a killer.
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This is an obvious troll thread.
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Well I dont know, maybe you dont have time to check each gen? Maybe no one is doing a gen and the survivors are healing? Maybe those perks help you decide which gen is a priority since more than one survivor is working on them? You know that killers have to manage their time with presition since making a bad play can cost you the game
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I am not trolling I legit don't like BBQ and Chili.
I don't think the other perks on killer are that bad and are balanced.
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Yeah that's why I'm currently trying out swapping it for kindred in solo. The results are mixed and inconclusive but I do like using kindred :)
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If you are saying this you clearly haven't ranked up nearly enough as killer.
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What part of finding a survivor, winning a chase (usually vs exhaustion perks), picking up the survivor (and avoiding Flash saves / body blocking), and making it to a hook do you think is the least skillful part of activating BBQ for a specific range 4s aura reading on anyone that cannot counter it?
Please elaborate.
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You do realize that not only does BBQ already have a bunch of counters, but it's also likely used largely for the BP bonus cause grind is so rough.
Honestly, they should just make BBQ's BPG and WGLF baseline, and rework WGLF.
That happens, and the amount of BBQ killers will likely plummet.
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Hooking is the killer's objective. It can't be that hard.
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lol. BBQ and CHili is the best anti-camping and tunnelling perk there is, because it incentivices the killer to go hook someone else while also giving them a target to go after far away from the hook. It also gives them an incentive to chase after healthy survivors instead of the injured guy who's already been hooked when they find both together.
So go ahead, nerf it, and watch the game quality decrease for survivors more, just like how the deletion of Ruin has destroyed survivor queue times while increasing the number of Moris used.
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I have proof that killers use it cause they have no skill.
https://dennisreep.nl/dbd/perks/killer/
on this list it is number 1 S tier why? cause of the BLOODPOINTS? don't be foolish you use it cause most killers suck at finding survivors, when there is scratch marks, blood pools and many other things to find them.
https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/b8y5dn/killer_perk_tier_list/
on this tier list it TOP TIER AGAIN! why? because of those good blood points you get? I highly doubt that.
https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/57142/killer-perks-tier-list
Here is another tier list and WHAT DO YOU KNOW? BBQ AND CHILI again at the top! why? because of those blood points? I don't think so.
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Bbq is the only reason to leave someone hooked. Otherwise camping is almost required. Most people run bbq for the bloodpoints anyway.
Also the entire game is weighted heavily against the killer
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Have you ever tried sitting on the opposite side of the generator from the Killer?
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Perhaps opening a locker?
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Perhaps going one way for 8 seconds, then another way?
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Entered the killer's terror radius, then leave?
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Bring Sole Survivor?
It's really easy to counter, keep practicing. I know you can do it.
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Still looking for you to validate your stance on its multi-step activation requirement being too easy.
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The point bonus is not necessary, and I’m a killer who uses it. The aura reading is enough.
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There we go, and I quote "I legit don't like BBQ and Chili." just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean it NEEDS to be nerfed, don't be so entitled. I've not seen a nerf BBQ posts for a long long time because survivors adapted to it and knows the counters.
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9/10 people are literally only running it for the BP bonus. The aura reading on hook is nice, but unless it's Freddy or Billy you just can't make good use of it.
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Why not make every killer perk a hex
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Come on man, don't give the devs any ideas.
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I mean it's only 16 perks vs 4 peels why should the killer have stringer perks them survivors
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-2/10 bait not reading again
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Bait? Or just a new survivor?
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You clearly must not play this much, or are trolling, if BBQ is that much of an issue.
There is so much counterplay to the perk it’s unreal. If you stand in one spot, remain there for its duration, and then are suddenly blindsided by a killer coming for you... is the perk REALLY to blame?
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Isn't obvious that the guy wants to troll? Don't feed him.
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There's like 2 million counters to BBQ lmao
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BBQ is an anti camping perk and gives the killer valuable info why turn it into a hex do u like being camped or dc's?????????
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I'm sorry, but no. It doesn't need to be a Hex. It is very fine for how it is, now. It is countered by going in lockers and going one way for a few seconds then going the opposite way after that.
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You're a trool aren't you?
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No
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