The problem with this suggestion

What I see here is people changing the definition of "Tunneling" to make their arguments stick. this does nothing to make this argument any where close to being worked out. here are the definitions I have seen so far in this thread alone:

1) tunneling is the act of a killer to chase the unhooked survivor immediately, downing them and re-hooking them. (this is the definition I follow)

2) tunneling is the act of a killer re-hooking a survivor quickly (more of a broad redefinition of #1).

3) tunneling is the act of a killer when he follows up to 4 survivors to the point he downs them and hooks them again. (idiotic way to see this but it was one of the ideas)

4) tunneling is the act of a killer who picks up a survivor from a trap they stepped in even if they just got off the hook.

5) (not seen here) following a survivor for a long period of time without even once hooking them till they are hooked

6) tunneling is the act where a killer returns to a hook and downs the unhooker immediately then hooks them, picks up the chase of the unhooked survivor and downs and hooks them again.

so the first thing that must be agreed upon before you can even come close to some sort of conclusion is that the definition of tunneling must be codified in this discussion and then you speak of that definition and make your conclusions there. survivors here and on streams and in game will use many more definitions of tunneling that serves them. the biggest issue is people don't like it because it's not a fun thing but it is not in the rules unless you look at the survivor rule book for killers in which they can do no wrong and killers have to let them go.

tunneling and camping are not sporting, they are not entertaining but they are NOT against any rules. how many people have to be hooked before the person unhooked could be picked up without worry of DS? people are so entitled to winning in this game that has multiple win conditions as defined by the person playing yet it is so bad that people had DS didn't like being in a match with another DS wielding player because if they weren't the obsession they would have to wait 30-40% of the wiggle meter to use theirs. they complained and it got changed. now killers are complaining that it allows people run around without any checks for up to one minute. lets look at what a survivors and killers have to worry about in the match (beyond the obvious don't get caught, or catch etc)

survivors: 1) 4 killer perks, 2) (if solo survivor) what the perks of the other 3 players are, 3) how many gens are left/done (there is a ui indicator for this), 4) how many totems are left on the map, 5) where is the hatch, and 6) is survivor X,Y,Z, or me on 2nd hook or Death hook. (I might have missed some but this seems to be the most of them)

Killers: 1) 4 perks of 4 survivors (16 perks to remember/find out), 2) how many gens are left/done (ui indicator for this), 3) which survivor(s) was unhooked in the last up to 60 seconds (up to 4 different survivors could be in this category), 4) how many totems are removed from the map (if they have noed or other hex perks at all), 5) the hook status of all 4 survivors, 6) where is the hatch.

this means the killers have much more to keep track of and yet survivors get all the timing perks! deep wounds no longer counts down on the killer's ui, pig's traps don't show how much time is left when hats are active, freddy doesn't know when survivors are about to fall asleep. but survivors see all of this plus more (haunted grounds timer is visible on both sides) lots of issues to deal with so define the issue specifically and work out a solution!

People don't seem to understand what tunneling is. If somebody else has time to get downed unhooking you, then you have time to get away while the killer is attacking them.

If your mate doesn't have borrowed time, blame them if you get instant downed again. It's still not tunneling if somebody else is deciding to unhook you right in front of the killer. That's just the killer taking the opportunity that's been handed to them on a silver platter. Survivors shouldn't be able to just have hook immunity for a full 60 seconds and act untouchable. It wouldn't be as bad being 60 seconds if the games lasted longer, but in 60 seconds a single survivor can get the majority of a gen complete. Stack that on multiple survivors and then it starts not being about "tunneling" but rather the fact that if most of them have it, then they have huge amounts of time where you really can't do anything but slug them to stop their gen progress. Some will even hide in locks and whatnot just so you can't and you're forced to go for a grab.

It just isn't about anti-tunnel with a 60 second timer. It's been reworked and designed to be an ANTI-TUNNELING perk. When it starts being used for causes beyond that, maybe it's time to realize that it's not exactly in the best state.

I'm not even against the overall effect, but just like Tofu (I think it was him) said, I would just be fine with them taking like 15 seconds off of it so it would be a more manageable 45 seconds or something.

Totally agree. If DS were to change like this, it can only deactivate while injured or healthy, NOT while downed. Though, it just brings back slugging for 60 seconds if they do wind up downing you after hook.

How about making it deactiavte when the DS survivor makes any interaction besides chase interactions, self healing or beiing healed but in return for this nerf we also buff it to stop it's timer while killer is in near proximity ?