Why is Nurse such a rare killer to go against now?

I ran Tinkerer, Surge, Discordance, and BBQ. I would say only BBQ is really meta of those tbh.

I hate playing the new Nurse. It took the skill = reward ratio she had and throw it in the garbage can, and now you spend so much time recovering from fatigue and cooldown you spend more of the game passively sitting there unable to do anything than you do actually playing the game.

It isn't fun, it wasn't well done, we still got screwed with addons, she has gamebreaking bugs that are never going to be addressed, she is in a sad state right now.

It also doesn't reward careful managing of blinks because the single best way (and probably what they are pushing for) to use her now is single blinks until chase. That is extremely limiting on gameplay and her main mechanic. Overall this is just a shitshow, especially considering so many of us in the community have offered way better changes that actually reward you for smart play and don't restrict you into playing her in one specific way.

I'm curious, what addons did you run? What do you run now?

As counter-productive as it sounds to my arguments, I did mostly run Omega Blink. Not that I needed it to win, it just made teleporting really fun with the massive distance. I could still play just fine without it and my other go-to combo was spoon + pocket watch (I think that's a pretty common combo)

I tried to run MYC a long time back on her but the rescuer would almost always be hard to find by the time I got back to the hook and I didn't want to waste my time chasing after someone I might not find easily.

My playstyle with my build was very fun to me. I would just play regular and wait for discordance to go off and get 2+ free survivor locations and initiate regular chases.

If Tinkerer proc'd I could usually get a gen-grab or I would down them right next to the gen so Surge would go off. I got VERY used to not kicking gens after Surge was released with discordance + tinkerer to back it up. I could defend a single 95% gen for minutes on end because it would constantly reset tinkerer and I was free for grabs They get so greedy on an almost done gen.

In my humble opinion, I think it's because they made her harder without making her stronger. This was needed, but it drove away older players because they were used to their method and it was easier for them to just switch to a different killer or survivor. And it keeps away new killers because until you're a really good Nurse, survivors will kick the ######### out of you. New killers would rather play Freddy, and old killers would rather play... also Freddy. Maybe Spirit once sound is consistent. Or Billy.

And my point still stands, after a single match I was fine again with her base blink distance. It never stopped me from playing her without those addons, it just made her that much more fun.

Ya know, the point of running addons in the first place?

Trust me, I learned her on pocket + spoon. It was only after I was already adept with her that I tried Omega blink. And no, I haven't advocated that it be brought back because it was whatever, and we still have a crappy version of it now anyways.

And no the recharge addons only bring it down to 2 seconds instead of 3, that's still 2/3 more time waiting than you did before her rework. That's still over 50% more than before. It makes her closer to old Nurse but still very much different.

I'm not sure if it got fixed, but I was so upset how I had to M1 survivors as Nurse. :P

That's part of her redesign though, I mean look at the addons that remove your blink for walkspeed and disable it upon landing a successful hit for walkspeed.

Just play her as an m1 killer, it's what they were going for.

I can say as a console player, I rarely see the nurse because using a controller just doesn't give you the freedom of movement needed for nurse. Every nurse I've gone against on PS4 was having a bad time unfortunately.

Yup I play nurse on console and I do have good games but most of the time I get 2k or 1k but killers in general are very frustrating to play right now I’m always getting gen rushed and am starting to dread playing killer

I played Nurse since very late 2016.

You can call me unskilled and lazy, but the Cooldown plus Dedicated Servers just made her unbearable to play as. I never liked the Fatigue but at least understood why it was "fair" for Survivors and accepted it as a necessity. I do not accept that a cooldown in addition is reasonable, it just makes it so that every 2-5 seconds someone stops you and says "to continue playing, wait X more seconds".

The feeling of self-stunning every time you use your Power (which you must do just to get around) is already not the biggest fun in the world, but adding an extra wait time and restraints is just so much more annoying.

It especially felt inconsiderate to me, since I was one of those Nurses who only rarely used Addons (and never Omega Blink). I used to pride myself on playing Nurse with no Addons.

I haven't seen one good reason in this thread why I need to keep doing that to myself when I can just play Freddy and have zero self-stuns and not have to drown in stress over the fact that I can't keep up with the gens and that if I miss a single Blink (or more commonly - get robbed by a bug or a hidden No-Blink-Zone) then I lose a chase completely.

Simply put, she's not fun and the Punishment vs Reward ratio was tilted too heavily towards Punishment (although that's kind of the Killer experience in general).

I came to an even more relevant conclusion lately: why should I keep subjecting myself to stress and humiliation by trying to pretend that playing Killer is anything more than becoming an interactive AI when I can just play Survivor and have the entire game based around my fun?

I don't need to worry about nerfs then, because Survivors can literally walk into a match with no Perks and win. I still remember with horror how the Depip Squad proved that when Marth and his group went into matches with no Perks and no comms and skillful Killers with fully-decked loadouts (including ZubatLEL, ScottJund and Umbra) were huffing and puffing to keep up with them and still lost.

Granted, there's been a few changes since then but playing Survivor is always so much more fun and relaxing. I don't even need to survive.

So, I'd very much like to go back to Nurse some day and play Killer again just in general, but right now it's just so punishing and frustrating. I'd much rather have fun. If that makes me "lazy", well... I'm here to have fun, this isn't a job to me. I don't owe anyone anything - the only one I owe anything to is myself and the only thing I owe is to have fun.

Nurse is just not fun anymore. Killer in general isn't, either.

And to all my fellow Killer Mains who suffer - just do what I did, switch over to Survivor. You'll thank me. It's so relaxing. You can literally just sit on a gen and have music playing in the background. You barely need to pay attention even during chases.

She's boring and frustrating to play with that cool down on top of fatigue

If you think we still have any version of omegablink, you really don't know the real reason omegablink broke the game. It wasn't just the range that was the problem, you know?!

While I'd agree that Nurse is unfun to play and it's almost impossible to play her casually, she is still undoubtedly the killer with the highest skill cap and potential to 4k consistently because you are 100% in control.

Pocket Watch + White Nit Comb was the correct combo. Metal Spoon and White Nit Comb had swapped descriptions.