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HOW THIS FAIR!!?!?
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Yeah but it is still hard. Red ranks know how to punch out gens as if they were trying to knock out an opponent in UFC lol.
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I agree with you. Ive been having the opposite. 11, 12 and 14s against a master 1 rank killer.
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Both of you missed the point. Imagine an actual gray or green rank Killer going up against four red rank Survivors. All they’d learn is that matchmaking is ######### up and they might even leave because they don’t want a game with a horrible excuse for a matchmaking system.
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Playing against players that are more skilled than you actually benefits you more than hurts you imo. Whenever I played billy around a year ago I wasnt the best and I kept getting beaten by players 10x better than me, but I learned to adapt and thats how I became godlike in this game. Its just a matter of how much time you dedicate yourself to this game
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As a person who mains Legion and Spirit those perk & add-on combos sadden me-
Personal issues regarding what other's build aside. Yes, this is the state of affairs in terms of matchmaking even on Console. But, in all honesty I would say this could very well be a good thing, you can learn how to better yourself in terms of playstyle against people who have quite a lot of experience on the game. It's annoying that the matchmaking is so broken that it's pairing up people who are nowhere near close in terms of ranking, but until they fix it, it would be best to make the most of it as a learning experience.
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Same
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I dont mmr will fix it but just hid it now. Since you won't see the rankings anymore
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I tried playing nurse today for the first time ever...got paired with sweaty gen rushing rank 1s while I'm like rank 10 or smth like that.
And at the end you get flammed and bmd.
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Well to be fair the way the game is designed the killers should only make up 20 percent of the players so logically there are gonna be less. Survivors aren't bullies despite being dicks some time. They are just players who make up the most of the players base and take advantage of the way the game is designed. The game is designed poorly at parts don't blame all survivors just those who want the game easier for them. Killers have to be a minority for the game to work.
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Well, if anyone paid attention to the forums other than the clickbait side vs side #########, youd know they have said MULTIPLE times they're working on a new MMR and matchmaking system to impliment and fix this.
But nobody likes to listen. They just want to rant and rave.
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Someone who wants to start gen work but move to sabos when someone gets hit without wasting an entire commodious or mechanics?
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No, if it works, it takes a predetermined checklist and it tries to put you with people that you play similar to; instead of putting people at the same rank together, it will try to put people of similar skill together.
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It really does suck when your put against those ranks. But as you go and if you are able to rank up as you keep playing and playing against them you will see some patterns to take advantage of in the survivors. I was a former rank 1 but got deranked because of the reset but at rank 10 I still get rank 1 swf which isn’t as hard to deal with after the experience as a killer. If you keep playing more and more you can bully the survivors and get really good at the game which I don’t doubt you will.
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I am cautiously optimistic. I believe they can pull it off.
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Thanks. Sounds hard to do. How would they determine similar skills in this kind of game?
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Good God some of you are so whiny, miserable and entitled. I come on here to try to give some solid advice and I get attacked like a pack of wolves.
They're working on a better ranking system right now, it will get better soon. Something tells me though you will find something new to complain about.
Go ahead, keep it coming.
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This is me too. I’m a casual survivor main, but there’s no killers on PS4 anymore. So I switch to killer just to play, get a match instantly for my level 17 killer against all red survivors.
My choices are to either not play at all or play an unfun game against significantly better players.
No thanks.
I can only rank down against such players, zero chance to rank up, zero chance to get a sufficient amount of bloodpoints to get better perks. No real chance of moving anywhere except down.
No thanks
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Play Bubba and just camp and slug and have fun with it, you can pretty much get a guaranteed 2k atleast if you don't care about playing like a douche.
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Frankly, I have no idea.
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Whilst I obviously don't have an exact answer, it's likely a combination of two factors:
Increasing specificity of "ranks" and "kit measuring"
The former could be as simple as having a basic elo system on the backend much like you see for the front end of overwatch, so instead of ever player being a 1 of 20 possible rankings, each additional player adds an additional rank and you climb up or down these ranks by winning or performing well in matches (beat a stronger foe you climb higher, lose against a weaker foe and you lose less rank progression). The reason they want to remove the rank displays is due to the fact that it could lead to confusion, as rank is and always has been more of a measure of time spent during a season and measures how well you did in the match, regardless of the opponent you're matched against, so for a while you would see many rank 18's matched with rank 1's, not because the system messed up, but because on the back end the 5 of you are very similar in relative elo score (this would also encourage players to not bring intentionally weaker teammates along with higher skill players or accept the fact that the killer will be matched with the assumption the total elo is split 4 ways).
For kit comparison, it's unlikely to be a factor, but essentially it would measure how much each player enjoyed a game, factor in all the variables (maps, perks, teammate perks, the killer, the killers addons, the killers perks etc) and over time used that data to find players who have reported having the most fun with similar preferences (this is the best arguement for picking any value in the "did you have fun" area on the results screen, as that would be the closest the devs can get to knowing if you had fun or not).
Anyway, just my two cents
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I play this game alot but i like to have FUN!! I don't want to play like a douche to have fun. I play both sides 50/50. PS4 highest rank killer 6 and Survivor rank 1 but on steam highest rank killer is 16. I can't get any higher because my computer sucks, really laggy sometimes on playing killer for daily's and rank 8 as survivor which is alot easier play on my computer. Lets face facts, survivor is easy mode and I play solo on both.
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Alright so here's what happens. You, a rank 13 killer pop into a game against a SWF of rank 2-4 players. You look around until you find one person and start a chase. They loop you. A gen gets finished, you realize that this person is better at looping than you and you'll just lose gens if you chase only them (they're communicating that it's safe to keep working on gens because SWF). So you break off. (They tell their team the killer is coming.) As you search for the next person another two gens finish. You find another person (they say to their team they're looping the killer.) They loop for a bit, and another gen finishes. You again decide that this one person isn't worth chasing because you only have one gen left and you need to patrol those three remaining to stop it. You've gotten maybe two hits in, and three survivors are at full health because they healed while you were chasing the second. (The second survivor tells their team to be careful killer is coming.) Third chase starts a moment later and the last gen pops almost right after. The survivor leads you to the far side of the map. You break off to check the doors.
Each time you find someone, they run you away from the door. You can either chase and get a hit, or patrol the doors. If you go to door A, they tell their friends to hide or run and open door B. This goes on for some time.
Match ends in less than 6 minutes with all remaining survivors crouch spamming.
Post-game... You depip, they're all still rank 3.
What did you learn? That it's not really fun at all, is it?
This isn't the case of every game, you might get 3 kills! Or you might go for the hook only to have two people body block you, and they scatter when you end up dropping the survivor because of the wiggle timer. Or you hit one and the other gets the unhook. You can only chase one! "Well play Bubba." Okay but the game already started, I can't change in the middle... But when you decide to do the smart thing and break off from a strong looping survivor only to find out that ALL OF THEM ARE... You don't learn, you just get teabagged.
This isn't Dark Souls where you can git gud by learning patterns and finding out what a boss does so you learn what best to do to counter it or the timing for a parry or dodge roll. Every match is different against people who use different tactics. Even knowing in the moment what the best option might be. "Don't chase a strong looper you just waste time." doesn't really work when all four of them are.
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These screenshots are weeks or even months apart. Look at the gaps of difference in Devotion level
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Thanks!
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Maybe he just wants to have fun at low ranks and not have to deal with the ######### storm that the highranks create. But I guess you'll need to look for a different game to just have some good ol'fashioned fun
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Who gives a crêpe about hOw ExPeRiEnCeD pLaYeRs PlAy, I just want to ENJOY the game without having to sweat harder than an Egyptian building the pyramids. I want the "bb-gun" so I can have casual fun with it, without having to learn for eons on how to stop god loops and other exploits that survivors conveniently use
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ones steam the other 2 are PS4 i play on both
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see learn how experienced players play.....I'm playing killer they playing Survivor it different game for them.survivor have big advance over killers throw in voice chat what have i learn? to hate playing killer side.
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Literally next update. They announced they were changing matchmaking with the next chapter a long time ago. And it kind of triggers me that no one else mentioned it. After the chains if hate comes out rank won't matter for matchmaking because they are switching to what is in essence an elo system that works behind the scenes.
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Don't worry, guys. Hiding the ranks will fix everything.
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This happens with rank 1 killers vs rank 10 survivor too..
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That's just the way it is man. I was going for Adept Wraith in the first pic. As long as they aren't being toxic and trolling,watch what they do. I'm definitely improving. Crappy response or not. There's a severe lack of killers,for many reasons, if you look around the forums. If it wasn't like that people would complain about the queue times. It's the perfect example of being between a rock and a hard place.
Also not all red ranks are even all that good. Might have more game time,but they aren't necessarily some God tier player or streamer lol. I know it sucks for the new guys. I'm not a high skill player,and I'm disabled. The only fixes they have aren't good ones. They can hide the rank,which I've heard talk of...I suppose they could make you wait a half hour to find players of the same rank...or they make an entirely new system,that will take time,and most likely get abused like it does on every other game.
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Still amazed by people complaining about this, when the devs themselves said it means nothing. It only means you've played a lot during that specific month. Unless you just bought the game I don't see this complaint being valid anymore.
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I might be wrong or missing something, but aren't you like level 1000? Which means you have probably thousands of hours in the game? I get the matchmaking is trash, but why are you at those ranks?
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Can you just let em use Noed? And playing against 4 red ranks as a green, is not going to make you better.
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They'll hide rank from end game screen soon. Apparently that fixes everything
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Did you just skip over half of what I said? "not gonna tell you how you should play."
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Life is not fair, yes.
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Yup, exactly this. Just complain about everything non-stop.
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which one?the clown screenshot from steam and my computer sucks so i don't play killer much other then doing daily s and on ps4 i haven't really tried this month and it's alot harder rank up highest killer rank is 8 or 7.
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Sure you will technically get better but it isnt fun to do I dont wanna have to train for my past time. Saying it will make you better is a non argument. Plus no matter how good you get this game killers will always be at a disadvantage even some of the best killers in the game lose to some bs #########, this game is hardly skill based anymore, it's all just map and pallet rng which is mostly in favor of survivor
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"we're doing a pretty good job"
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I know the matchmaking is a giant horses ass, but at the same time, think of it as a learning experience. If you start to pick up on what these survivors do, you will also pick up on counters to these habits. Most survivors play exactly the same. The outliers are the ones who just hold W, and juke you without even knowing it.
That's even if these red rank survivors are even good; and nobody here can sit here with a straight face and say that for survivor, red rank means skill in any way; because it doesn't. Rank is a participation trophy for survivors. You can literally rank up as survivor and be in a coma at the same time.
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Lack of killers
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Hey they'll fix it by hiding the ranks so don't worry about it my guy
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I signed in just so I could upvote this. To all my Killer mains out there, do what makes YOU happy. Make the survivors SUFFER if that's what you want! Personally, I don't need NOED to do well or even 4k sometimes, but I take it anyways just to punish the gen rushers and maybe teach them a lesson.
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Matchmaking is borked for a while now
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That is quite contradictory and hypocritical. "Also not gonna tell you how you should play" and yet you proceed to tell him how to play by deleting NOED from their perk roster. Before you even accuse me of not reading your full comment trust me I did and it still makes little sense as you contradict yourself in seconds.
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Lmao must be a guilty NOED user. Come on! Don't even deny it.
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Ok I use NOED ocasionally. And? I'm honest unlike you. Your just mad cause I called you out for the hypocrite you are. It's really cute you gotta resort to using playground level insults cause your mad. 😋
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