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Is it low killers mains or just bad matchmaking system?

USELESS
USELESS Member Posts: 1,151

Got a rank 1 survivor as rank 12 killer and it was not swf

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  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Probably a combination of both. The matchmaking is known to be bugged right now, but the devs don't seem to be worrying too much about fixing it since they're about to render it obsolete with a brand new system anyway.

  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494
    edited March 2020

    It is not bugged and is as intended. It has not changed for three years. The messed up matchmaking is nothing new. For three years we have read the once a week ######### is up with mm threads.

    ^...This weeks

  • BigBrainMegMain
    BigBrainMegMain Member Posts: 3,826

    It's a combination. Many killers switched to survivor like myself after the Ruin Change.

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    The devs said on stream that it was bugged and not working as intended, so forgive me if I take their word over yours.

  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494

    They have said in the past that things wre bugged only to show up later as intended and was included in the game.

    Que's have not changed. Scratch that. They MM has gotten worse if anything. If was bad before but now its just really bad. Pitting brand new killers to the game against the best the game has to offer has always been the case. This is the experience for most players that pick up the game and play either side.

  • DarKStaR350z
    DarKStaR350z Member Posts: 765

    In this status update from March 2019 they were about to roll out a new matchmaking algorithm which was supposed to fix the problem which has been in the game for years, but is becoming more prominent now due to a lower number of killer players than ever before, making the differences and frequency of seeing this a much more common occurrence.

    I wouldn’t hold your breath this gets any better any time soon like some of us have been doing for years.

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    Just one? You should count yourself lucky.

  • goat10em
    goat10em Member Posts: 749

    I have nothing against anyone at bhvr but I also don't just take anyones word on a subject. Yes, they know more than I do i'm sure. But I am rank 1 killer. When I play killer I get all red rank survivors and find games instantly. Seems to be working well. I am rank 1 survivor. When I play survivor I get killers anywhere from rank 1 to rank 15 after a 10 minute wait.

    So I can either believe that match making is just messed up currently or I can draw my own conclusion that pipping as survivor is wayyyy too easy and there are more red rank survivors and not enough killers to fill all the matches so they end up putting any killer in against red ranks just so they get a match.

    It seems much more likely to me that my conclusion is correct.

  • BubbaSawyerMeats
    BubbaSawyerMeats Member Posts: 108

    I'm a rank 3 killer and I've been going against rank 16 survivors. feels bad

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    Pitting grey ranks against anyone has always been intended, yes, but OP is not in grey ranks, so that's irrelevant. As for the rest, you're insisting that the devs are simply lying about the matchmaking being bugged based on the fact that they haven't changed it and that bugs have become features in the past. That's not a valid argument, it's a guess. If you're going to speculate about their intentions, at least admit that that's all it is.

  • Lucian
    Lucian Member Posts: 51
    edited March 2020

    Killer main here, I've stopped playing the game altogether because it's not a survivor horror game, it's a swf try-hard-fest with a jungle gym membership.


    It's hard to get immersed in hunting people when they give no ***ks that you're there, get joy from your frustration, and sometimes actively harass you when they have so many second-chance perks. And if you do manage to get 3-4k you get to deal with toxicity after the match is over. No thanks.

  • Marcavecunc
    Marcavecunc Member Posts: 2,057

    Deranking system is broken since they changed it a few months ago. They need to rework it and make people derank two colors back, not just one. Too many people get to red ranks when they shouldn't because they don't derank far back enough, so now low ranked killers get high ranked survivors, because there's no one within their player rank to play against, and they prioritize faster queue times over evenly ranked matches (which makes sense, I rather play against a group of high ranked survivors than waiting 10 minutes to get a group at my rank)

  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494

    Where do i insist that the dev's are lying? Please tell me.

    I simply mentioned that in the past thigns were pointed out and the response given was that these issues were bugs. Only to turn out to be included into the game later on as intended behavior.

    Here is something funny. The person in charge of balance did not even know their own perks. The person making the game did not know their own game. I bet they are going to eat that just like cote is going to eat i think we did a pretty good job so far.

  • fleshbox
    fleshbox Member Posts: 494

    This just puts more survs into red ranks as well. Since it takes more killer games with free points for them to derank. Have a bad game? No problem. Here you go. A free game with a deranking killer. We will give you back that pip you just lost.

  • Marcavecunc
    Marcavecunc Member Posts: 2,057

    Yeah really. I'm a better killer than I am a survivor, and yet I'm rank 3-5 survivor and rank 8-10 killer, because pipping is so easy on survivor and you don't need to do that well to pip, you just need to make sure you don't die too fast.

    Can't wait for the "upcoming" matchmaking/ranking changes

  • Fibijean
    Fibijean Member Posts: 8,342

    You responded to my intial comment, directly contradicting me by saying that matchmaking is working as intended and is not bugged. When I explained that the devs had said the opposite, you came back with what I assumed was intended as a counter to that. If you were actually agreeing with me, then I apologise, but you seemed to be trying to argue that matchmaking was not, in fact, bugged, which is in direct contradiction to what the devs have said.

    If that is the case and I didn't misread your statements, there are three possible conclusions as to what your point could have been:

    • You believe the devs were lying - that is, saying something that isn't true
    • You believe the devs were saying something untrue, but you wouldn't necessarily call that lying, at which point we're just arguing over semantics
    • You didn't have a point, and were just making random statements for no particular reason

    I assumed you had a point because you bothered to comment in the first place, and based on the statements you were making, it seemed clear that the point you were getting at was that what the devs said was untrue. Whether you want to call that lying or not is up to you, but that's how I came to that conclusion. I hope that clears it up.

    As for "the person in charge of balance not knowing their own perks", he misremembered a perk's updated function while live on camera in front of thousands of people. People make mistakes when they're nervous. I dare you to tell me that you have never made a single error in whatever your area of expertise is - does that mean you suddenly know nothing about it?