and there it is..sabo bully

Ran up against a 4-man SWF sabo squad in Thompson's House (I know it was SWF because I went up against the same team several games later, minus the sabo tools). I had my Agitation/Iron Grasp/Mad Grit meme build. They got through the first few gens pretty quick, but blew through a lot of good pallets in the process. Then they tried to sabo hooks to save a fallen teammate, and it all went downhill from there because my build counters sabotaging better than any garbage Hangman's Trick. :P Most of the good pallets being gone meant I could safely chase one of them while carrying someone else, and by the time they had managed to get to the fourth gen, the last two players had given up because both were on death hook and one was already being carried.

Alternatively, when people see how easy it is to do, it may become meta.

yesterday i played 4 matches as killer 3 of them saboing, you get a hit they get a hook and a wiggle out, then you need to chase all over again, its unfun as hell play this way, if you go to another hook they will follow,wiggle out and bodyblock you.

im only playing with moris if they play dirty they get moried

I highly doubt it.

Yesterday evening I only saw Saboteur two times in my games. And only one hook got sabotaged, and this was not a problem for the Killer, since he was able to hook me on a different hook.

As long as sabotaged Hooks are not gone forever, it is not worth to spend time saboing (and I include the time the Survivor will waste running behind the Killer/next to an injured Survivor). Sabotage might have become a little bit more viable, but nothing that will be seen frequently.

Hook Tech.

Sprint Burst on demand Tech

DS-into-locker(-into-headon) Tech

Tactical Disconnect-To-Give-The-Hatch Tech

Seriously though, I feel Sabo (Or at the very least a toolbox) will become meta similar to DS, BT, DH, and Adrenaline.

If you're gonna go that route, I STRONGLY recommend adding Agitation for maximum memes. Combined with Mad Grit and Iron Grasp, you become fast enough that you can actually start chasing Survivors for a bit while carrying someone.

When you get it going, it is a lot of fun. It is especially funny when a Survivor botches a flashlight save, eats a hit, and then thinks that they can get the save on the second attempt.

I played a handful of games yesterday and only had to drop one survivor due to sabotaging hooks. There were several attempts where I could see a survivor going to a hook and I was able to just change my route to a different hook. So the only way to effectively sabotage requires multiple survivors running to different hooks which requires a lot of survivors not doing gens. It'll be a thing killers need to be aware of but it is also 100% counterable. If you are getting sabo bullied then you need to adjust your tactics.

I ran into a 3 man swf flashlight squad running sabo with 1 toolbox at rank 1.

I proceeded to run Iron Grasp, Agitation, Mad Grit, and Lightborn on Billy.

No gens were done that day.

It doesn't always work if survivors are smart, but watching them struggle was exhilarating.

Ugh... Sadly it's true. Played 3 rounds yesterday after the update finished, and using my normal builds for the first 2 games I could hardly hook anyone. This is probably an excited reaction from survivors because now they can easily stop killers from hooking, but they also brought in Breakout which made things so much worse... They were probably full on Sabo Squad SWF's considering how coordinated they seemed, so I was bullied pretty hard. After those first 2 games left me feeling sour, I switched to the build: Agitation, Mad Grit, Iron Grasp, & Hangmans (because I wanted to see if it has any usefulness after the change from the ptb version). Suffice to say, I was finally able to hook survivors regularly again and funny enough, because they were all so hell bent on sabo'ing, the gens weren't going very fast. Once they figured out they couldn't sabo-save against my build though, they stopped trying and the gens just flew. I 3k'd that game, and they blasted me in the chat for having a full anti-sabo build... sigh, the next few weeks as killer are gonna suck.

Once as survivor and once as killer. It's very rare on my end. As survivor, the Deathslinger dropped and pressured. The saboer was a solo and unrelated to me. Nothing came out of it, by it I mean saboing, as we all escaped.

As killer it was maaaybe a min 2 swf. They were blocking and causing trouble, but it didn't hinder me much. I had a hook close by the first time in the match, and after I'd either drop or just dedicate and get hits in. Easy stbfl stacks so I wasn't complaining.

Besides, I usually hit them enough to cancel the sabo. Could just be luck, but honestly, I'm not worried about the saboing change. It'll likely be as rare, maybe slightly more common, as the toxic tryhard 4man swf.

Is this pc thing? I've seen one hook sabo'd since latest release on ps4.