What do Survivor mains mean by "Boring"

HAve you ever tried to adjust your playstyle vs those killers?

And killers say these same things you're saying about survivors. And the devs are listening to killers, nerfing toolboxes and changing the so called Ironworks God loop. I'm a survivor and I'm bored with Ghostface because he's been in most of my trials over the last couple of weeks, even more than Doctor. So I'd like to see some other killers, just played against a Trapper for the first time in about a month, but yeah tired of Ghostface.

It's usually considered boring when you already know what a killer is going to be running before you even get the chance to find out (every single Freddy player runs BBQ and Pop) and/or a killer's specific play style is practically unaffected by how good a survivor is (e.g. Spirit using Stridor, Freddy spamming snares until the survivor is downed)

Doctor, Clown, and Freddy imho are the most boring killers. Though Billy is pretty high up there.

Boring is I find little to no enjoyment in playing them. I would rather die on first hook then actively play in the match.

Doctor takes any issues with finding people and removes them plus the constant madness is irritating in my ear.

Freddy is just obnoxious. Not as bad, but the dream world if annoying on both sides.

Clown takes some skill, but really takes out a lot of skill to counter loop. Also need Ether Volume 5% and Flask of Bleach added to base.

Billy I just hate listening to the non stop Bad Billy's who have the need to try and back rev or instantly return to the hook every time. There's a difference between a bad and a good Billy.

If I find no enjoyment in playing against 3 of these killers and the pretty common bad Billy. I don't plan on playing.

Ofc they do, there are many killers equally biased as there are surviors. Unfortunately, killer nerfs/changes are easier to push out since they affect only the single changed killer. With survivor general nerfs it's far trickier since you can't really nerf survivors as a whole unless you want to anihilate solo surviors. Survivor's biggest weakness is matchaking putting potatoes where they don't belong. If rank 1 survivors played like rank 1 are supposed to play then all high tier killers would have much harder time to preform well. It's easy to call something killers have too strong when your team is full of players who aren't playing at the needed potentical for the rank they are at.

If you want diversity, ask for buffs to low tier killers. Both freddy and doc are beiing played far more then before their rework (at least I see them more then 1 out of 20 games like before their changes) and nerfing them would definitely not make killers like clown more played.

When a killer takes no skill to use and takes no skill to counter, like Clown, Spirit and Freddy. In two cases you have to camp pallets, in another, you have to guess every action, no skill on both sides.

Any Killer that cannot be countered 100% by hopping through a hole or by dropping a piece of wood is boring

Lmao, wait a minute, this is actually the right answer.

I mean seriously, you can't tell me that a burn victim, with a homemade clawed glove who is bleeding through generators, flickering in and out of visibility, and creates pools of blood through which the souls of the damned grab and tug at you as you run past is BORING.

But pre-rework Freddy which made sitting on a generator and holding m1 10x slower was not boring???

You're not fooling anybody survivor mains. Especially the fellas like me who play both ######### sides

To me as a survivor the only "boring" situation is not one that is killer limited, it's any killer who decides to camp. Camping is no fun for anybody, the guy camping gets to sit there, the guy getting camped gets to hang there, and I get to sit on a generator holding m1. Very cool gameplay fun guy (of course this doesn't include situations where the killer is forced to do so, IE super aggressively altruistic survivors, or it's the endgame and no generators are left, in which case I get it).

Pretty sure I've come to the accurate conclusion that survivors find a killer boring if he's good. If it makes it so they can't hold mouse one while watching youtube on the other monitor. They don't want to play against it, zzzzzZZzz.

When the method of countering said man is just "drop the pallet early" or "guess the right pallet" it becomes insanely boring/unsatisfying to play against him.

Killers that are strong but very easy to play tend to have a boring playstyle, particularly in chase. Personally, I only think that Freddy is boring since his power is the only one that fits the criteria. I don't mind going against strong killers like Oni, Billy, Nurse, Hag, ect... since those killers have a lot of depth to them. Getting hit by an unpredictable Hag or a skilled curve from a Billy genuinelly feels like I got outplayed. If you compare that feeling to how getting downed by a Freddy because he placed a snare in the middle of the loop, and it just feels like a hollow loss. The same feeling you get when you get downed because of Spirit Fury + Enduring or (as killer) have all the survivors running to the "god loop/ex-infinite" on the map.

They mean “the killer is difficult for me and I can’t bully them.” That is exactly what they mean.

I disagree 100% The Clown takes a LOT of skill to play. Knowing if it's a optimal time to throw a bottle, to know if it's a good time to refill your bottles, to know the trajectory arch of the bottle and to know if it'll even be worth it because the cool down from refilling the bottles is a punishment for failure. The bottles have huge limitations. They don't keep you from vaulting, they don't keep you from throwing pallets. They don't show your aura. They do screw up your vision, but only for a few seconds, and to top that off when he does throw the bottle he's stricken with a slow down for a second.

The Spirit you have to be a mind reader to know where people are going to go. So you have to really read the survivors. And Freddy to you have you spread out your pressure on 5 gens equally. It actually takes a shocking amount of skill to use an master these killers. I must say it's insulting to the people who take their time to really learn these killers.

In contrast every survivor plays the same. The only differences are the perks, but we all know all/most survivors are running DS, Spine Chill,Sprint Burst, Borrowed Time, Adrenaline, Dead Hard and Self Care.

Really loving all the generalizations of Survivors equating "boring" to "difficult" or being "unable to bully the killer". You guys are the reason this community is so toxic.

You can bully a Legion (who is pretty easy to gen-rush) and still be bored with the game because of how his power works on a fundamental level.

In Freddy's case, he's boring AND good. I don't care if I bully the Freddy to his grave and he DC's, the game was still boring because of how his power works.

Boring: Freddy, he's got literally everything in the game and usually goes with PGTW + Ruin along with an obnoxious playstyle, survivors are already tired of the same M1 gens just so this guy can TP and kick at any time he wants.

Doctor, his reworks were needed but jesus they topped it off a little bit too much, this guy just plays full TR, brings just as much slow downs as Freddy and is stupid as hell.

Clown, well, it's just boring cause he's lacking anything interesting and is more of a pain for the killer than it is for the survivors really.

TL;DR Overloads of utility and lack of counters suck, (Clown is just boring though)

Finally someone who gets it. I was a killer main when I first started playing, but I'm a survivor main now for obvious reasons. And to top it off I don't do SWF because I want to play how the game was meant to be played.

People complain solo survivor is hard when it isn't in the slightest. You either had selfish team mates, or they're too scared to work on gens and hop off at the slightest hint of a terror radius. It makes each game different because you don't know how your team will work together. People saying "boring" are just too stubborn to admit survivor is too easy these days. And it doesn't help when the current state of the game encourages killers to tunnel.

I'm not saying killers aren't unbalanced in some ways, but survivors are FAR more unbalanced than killers right now.

This. Why does "boring" have to have some hidden meaning for wanting nerfs or something? It's just boring.