stop nerfing survivors each patch!

It's okay this is a great change!

I imagine when they said that the developers were implying that it was their mindset for the changes.

People within BHVR can have different opinions/mindsets, especialy if they're a forum moderator rather than a developer.

But let's not kid ourselves; the ruin changes did leave killers in a pretty bad spot for a while, so I think many would consider it a nerf.

I imagine when they said it was a change they were implying that that was the mindset of BHVR game developers when working on ruin.

People within BHVR are allowed to disagree with that, especially if they're forum moderators and not game developers.

But let's not kid ourselves; the changes left killers in a pretty bad spot for a while, so many agree that it was a nerf.

Well it was used in 80% of games so I'm sure alot of killers were upset and because that was a main way to have early game pressure and it was gone what else could they do? you want them to hold your hand out the gate?

You clearly haven’t played enough killer at high ranks to experience what it’s like to play against 4 man SWF’s running meta perks and being decent at the game.

Survivors aren't getting nerfed, killers are just getting buffed.

The difference being that it was extremely well known to anybody with basic gameplay understanding that Ruin was a bandaid fix to the gen speed problem. The fact that they nerfed Ruin without doing anything about gen speeds in the same patch was obviously a bad idea to anybody who understood how the game works. Meanwhile, this patch is an attempt to clean up after that mess.

Oh no, the great skill checks bonus was reduced from 2% to 1% ! How are survivors gonna be playable after this ? This nerf completely destroyed them !

Toolboxes weren't nerfed in the same patch as Ruin.

@Marcus

You're right. However, the Ruin "nerf" was also the reason they nerfed toolboxes, rendering them near useless.

So the point still stands. What are they going to do when the maps are smaller and full of unsafe pallets? I think that's where we don't want to get to, because maps like Hawkings (small and full of unsafe pallets) is unhealthy for the game and only takes a braindead killer to bloodlust without mind-gaming to win.

No that's not the case, only maybe for a few special people who want to 4k every single game no matter how good survivors play.

In the same patches Nurse, Spirit, Myers, Legion, Ruin, Hangman's Trick and Gearhead were nerfed, while Borrowed Time ( an already meta perk ) was buffed.

So stop acting like survivors are always getting the short end of the stick.

Great Skill Checks are hard to hit if you don't have time into the game. Eventually they are basically the only thing you hit.

DBD devs revealed what many of us long suspected, the servers give the edge to The Killer. See https://www.twitch.tv/videos/551426466 @ 16:00 mark for an explanation of latency and how the game favors The Killer over the Survivor. So there's no connection to servers that can materially change this outcome. It's interesting how devs clearly are more sympathetic to Killers in this regard yet this forum is filled with people that complain they only care about Survivors. @Peanits points out how much of a "game changer" it would be if Survivors got the edge bc they could extend the Chase for another 30s but it's also painful for Survivors who could be on death hook and that lag hit in a window results in their elimination from the Trial. I wish they made it a top priority to address this.

This is not a survivor nerf. Now the diference is that the toxic players who abused infinites and end in red rank because of it, won't be able to do anymore. The average survivor that knews how to loop and capitalize on killer mistakes will continue being good.

This is it.

This is what entitled survivors are like.

While... Yes, I am not happy with the entire "Killer weak" stuff...

I am happy they're starting to realize some problems. This nerf is well-deserved, and will slow down the game considerably! I also feel that if the map changes are successful, this game will feel more balanced than usual!

I'm not at the point where I will play again, but as soon as Matchmaking is fixed up... Well, gear up fellas, this Newbie Spirit/Oni/soon-to-be-gotten Deathslinger is back in the game baby!

Instaheals were broken. Playing a M1 Killer and downing someone and then the chase gets resetted to 0? Pair that with the old Mettle of Men + Adrenaline and you could get chased for a whole game.

Balanced Landing: Tell me which other Exhaustion perk had a passive side effect even though you were exhausted. Especially on Haddonfield this could be abused to create nearly infinites.

Nobody asked for Lery's Rework, but i like the new map.

February 10 - Disconnect Penalties - Forces players to have to play through matches, no matter how toxic the other side wants to be.

Patch 3.6.

1.) Name another killer who has to pick up his tools and can forced to just be a M1 Killer if you sabotage his power?

2.) Needed for the Hook-Sabo-Rework.

3.) Reworked. You still get a good speed boost which is crucial if a gen is about to be finished.

4.) At least mention the buff about the time to sabo a hook.

5.) Was already the case for killers. But i don't like that change, too.

6.) Never saw something like that in my games. So i can't comment on that.

7.) Breakable walls can work in survivors favor.

On topic:

Ruin rework sorted out bad killers from red ranks. Same will happen now with the god loops and bad survivors in red ranks.

Just like the mantra that was chanted when ruin was changed

• bad [role]s will fall to their appropriate ranks

and red ranks are already pretty over saturated with survivors.

Lets just wait till we see the thing.