General Discussions
General Discussions
why survivors are calling deathslinger boring/broken/tryhard killer?
I main deathslinger since his release and even tho i still manage to get most of my games with 4 kills in red ranks, i still consider he would need some buffs, he require more skill since it require more accuracy than huntress and his hitbox isn't big like a truck, so why is he boring/broken/tryhard?
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Because they say that about literally every killer.
Seriously. I get complaints even as Legion or Clown. When survivors get salty, they just want to blame anything that's at hand.
Just ignore them.
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that is true haha, i was a spirit main before and i played her for 1 game and got 4 kills in 1 gen after a 3 month break, i said in the chat gg and not bad after a 3 month break and one of the guys said, "don't excuse it" like if i was an ######### for playing spirit lol
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Mainly because it requires above average reaction time to react to his shots at, lets say 10 meters.
Despite this I'm fine with it because I always strafe when in a chase with one.
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I haven't heard him being a try hard killer. My mates don't like facing him but that's because of his hitbox. They also don't like how close he can get to the survivors before they know he is there. However they don't think he is op or really strong, just a bit annoying to face.
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Personally, i quite like playing against a Deathslinger.
But I can also see why others might feel frustrated at playing against one. I think (maybe?) players find issue with how he can punish good players for being able to create distance between themselves and Deathslinger, and his hooking-in mechanic can feel quite cheap as you rarely ever 'wiggle' off the bullet and suddenly now, you have to recreate all that distance which can be just as easily denied? idk
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so true haha
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Aside from those who are just upset that they died, there can be times where it feels like there's not a whole lot you can do depending on your positioning. He doesn't have a clear tell when he's about to shoot (you can aim down sights and shoot almost immediately), so you always have to be on your toes and assume he could shoot at any moment. If all you've got is a window, for example, taking it means you get shot and hit. Not taking it means he can easily M1 you. You can try to dodge, but since he has no wind up time, you've gotta' dodge almost any time he has line of sight on you, which loses a ton of ground. Compared to Huntress who has a very clear wind up that you can react to (e.g. She raised a hatchet, I'm not going to drop the pallet), there's a little more guesswork involved.
I don't mind playing against him personally, but I do see where people are coming from. Sometimes you're more so hoping that the person playing him misses their shot rather than trying to outsmart them. He's definitely the type of killer that is as good as the person playing him.
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Because he can sometimes bypass loops and that's 90% of most survivors play book thanks to empty maps and also rote muscle memory of survivors since it's the meta-best tactic for time wasting.
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I just wish his terror radius music was a little more obvious.
I don't mind if someone is good at using a killer. I am a terrible shot as the Deathslinger so I can appreciate someone being good at him a lot more than some who is "good with Freddy" but the quiet terror radius is very confusing, more so for the first person found.
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You can't react to it any day of the week. You can just predict where he's gonna shoot,and when.
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I only see one issue with him, tiny TR. He can be right on top of you before you know it. I don't play much survivor and can't say I hate playing vs him, but he is an easy mode killer.
I heavily disagree with him taking more skill. I have yet to not 4k with him unless I give the hatch. He can get right on top of survivors with MA and can often pull them off of gens before they can react. His lack of wind up for M1 means easy M1 hits as well. Pallets are nearly inconsequential vs him as he will chain you and drag you around, thus canceling the distance afforded by dropping the pallet.
If I'm in a mindless mode and just want to score a few games, I run him or Doc.
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As a deathslinger main I think the reason is because they don't know what to do against him. People think they can loop/juke him on unsafe tiles which is impossible if there is enough straight ground or shorter corners and DS is good shot. Best way to beat him in chase is to loop tiles with high obstacles. Those are the main ones where you can get some decent chase time on him. Other then that, evade him to best of your ability.
Other then that, low terror radius punishing low awareness of many survivors and their inability to split up to abuse his low movement speed is what's causing them to lose to him which makes them call him boring as with all decent/good killers.
I don't know if buffing him is a good idea. I main him and play him a lot at high ranks and he's already really good if you get your shots. And even then, almost nobody can play him to his true full potencial, meaning that if you see them, you can hit them in about 80% of scenarios. Pretty much nobody can get those 1-2s shots that present themselfs.
If any buff happens he might become too strong and I don't want devs to ruin him after that. He's so much fun to play and also strong already so I'm fearful of any changes that might cause devs to ruin (pun intended) him afterwards.
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dude, i play many many games, and it happens once every 3-4 games
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To be fair that is 25-75% of one whole Survivor team. (/Not Serious)
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He's boring because there's not much chase interaction. You can spam ADS all you want and there's not much the survivor can do. The counterplay to him is quite simply to genrush, which is boring in itself.
Broken, as in his terror radius. I know the devs keep insisting that it's working as intended. Either the community has gone crazy all of a sudden, or maybe it's time to acknowledge that there is an issue. There are other 24m TR killers and nobody is complaining about those not working properly.
For the tryhard, I've never heard anybody say that.
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he reminds vaguely of how old legion felt:
in 1v4 he’s pretty weak
in 1v1 he can feel oppressive without much you can do other than hope the killer is bad
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Wait a second.
That sounds familiar!
Hold on... is that not the exact, same, arguments, made against killers like Spirit and Freddy?
Are we seriously complaining about a mid to lower-high tier killer right now? I thought the community is better than this.
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Nobody is complaining about the strength/tier either mid-low (Deathslinger), or high (Spirit and Freddy). The complaint is about the lack of chase interaction, because said interaction is essentially all that there is of skillful and fun in this game, and all changes implemented so far where made to encourage interacting with the other side.
Those characters, regardless of strength, lack interaction because they are essentially a single-player game dependant on the ability of the player using them, compounded by the fact that all the three you mentioned have a fairly low skill cap. Survivors lament this situation, because they're reduced to glorified NPCs when versing those and the optimal thing they can do is to quite literally hold m1.
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I'm pretty certain I've never felt that way versing any of them. Are you sure it's not just you guys? Because being reduced to "Glorified NPCs" means I have no way of making the Killer react to what I am doing. I am just following a programming, a certain set of rules that the developers patched into me.
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Same video, 2 different times. Just watch it and you have the answer why survivors think he is broken in chases. About as much fun as to play COD unarmed.
Also:
"I main deathslinger since his release and even tho i still manage to get most of my games with 4 kills in red ranks, i still consider he would need some buffs, he require more skill since it require more accuracy than huntress and his hitbox isn't big like a truck, so why is he boring/broken/tryhard?"
Oh yea he need some buff, you know... 4K almost all the time as you say is defnitly not enough. I mean, you are the killer so you are entiteld to get 4K 5gen every game.
Seriously, get out of here.
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Simple answer: Survivors tend to be whiney little brats when they face a killer that running around in a circle (sorry, looping super skillfully) doesn't work on.
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But these are similar complaints that Legion gets and you can loop him just fine? Get off your high horse.
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You should re-read my post, because it's as if you're answering to someone else. Also, I don't know who's 'you guys'.
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This sums it up perfectly.
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What you said literally did nothing to take away from my point; and it's not a matter of me being on a "high horse". It's a fact.
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Where did any Survivor say this?
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I dislike how his power does the mindgame *for* him. While I think he's fine and doesn't need buffing/nerfing, it's not fun to get outplayed by him simply holding down sights and having it do the mindgame for him. Unlike someone like Huntress or Nurse, who depends on prediction and outsmarting their opponent regardless of audio queues.
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You have not provided any reasoning, calling people who dislike something “brats” just makes you seem immature and unable to form a proper argument.
This game is most enjoyable when there is interaction between survivor and killer. Spamming ADS to bait dodges and force them to constantly lose distance is not meaningful interaction. Compared to trying to mindgame a nurse and dodge blinks, Deathslinger is nowhere near as a fun experience.
but I’ll use your tactic, you probably are the type who used Old Legion and then called the survivors bad when you inevitably killed one.
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I share Zubat's opinion of Deathslinger, that he's pretty easily a top 5 killer and the only thing that defeats him is maps. He's so slow that he's countered by large maps, but in a 1v1 he's completely oppressive. Being against a good deathslinger is like being against a good nurse, there's just an inevitability that you'll go down. But with Deathslinger there's not much skill involved, just get a crosshair and M2-M1 for a free hit. And that's exactly why I think he's boring, because the chase against him is nonexistent. Your game becomes a race of holding M1 on gens and praying you do it faster than he kills everyone.
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He requires more aim? I don't really agree with this. With Deathslinger, you shoot where you aim with his scope, with Huntress, you have to learn how to aim because there is no real indication of where exactly the hatchet will go.
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My boyfriend did some test on Deathslinger, and it apparently takes 7 seconds for the TR to kick in, which is pretty... bad.. I dont understand why Huntress has to have a pretty big TR but Deathslinger has a small one despite both being long range killers lol - especially deathslinger who pulls people in
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He is currently (for me of course) the most unfun killer to play against. It's hillarious how broken his wind up time is and you can spam this without any consequences. Also what is also unfair about him is how he can get a free hit with a spear without even hitting a survivor. That's even more than old Legion. I honestly prefer to play against a good nurse, because she at least has a lot better skill capping and it's more fun to play against.
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Hes boring but not tryhard or broken imo
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Just like killers tend to be whiny little brats when they face a perk they don't like /s
Theres no point calling someone a whiney brat and insulting there side. That dosent contribute to the discussion in any meangiful way
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He Can pretty much cover 2 gens from one spot depending on map. Can get free hits on windows. But I don't see how he's broken. He gets pretty punished for missed shots unlike huntress. And a good survivor group can out play the chains. So the people your facing just suck, plain and simple. But!! Survivors won't admit that as you can see on these forums.. they would rather sit and complain about maps or NOED instead of do bones and learn to loop.
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As a Nurse main, and someone who plays a lot of DS, I can tell you that this is BS. The sights help to a point, but the projectile has travel time and still requires you to guess the survivor’s movement (especially at long range). Nurse is still the queen of the chase in DBD. No one touches her, especially not DS.
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