Being able to see survivors' names in lobby

I'm sorry that you think I was directly attacking you with my reply, but that was not the case. I'm speaking in general. But like I said, you can't expect to win every game that you play as killer.... you have to take into account the map in regards to the killer you're playing. I can comfortably say that the only thing that affects my ability to win the game is the map that I'm placed on.

I dislike the fact that killers can see survivors in lobby because killers will intentionally take moris to ruin the games of people who are using certain characters or cosmetics, not because of the items.... but I knew many people would be upset at not being able to prepare for flashlights and medkits, so I addressed that point. But anyway, think of all of the bunny Feng Mins being mori-ed because Monto decided to make a "funny meme" video of him "hunting wabbits", or the killers who have some sort of vendetta against Yuis. Completely ridiculous that killers will actually attack people for their choice of cosmetic, and it's something that can be avoided by hiding survivors in the pre-game lobby.

I understand, and I know that I'm easier to see when I'm wearing bright cosmetics (I don't wear bunny Feng Min though, I don't even play her and I think it looks stupid), but I don't like killers being able to target me when I play survivor just for my choice in clothing, hair or character (I've even been targeted just for playing Nea or Nancy). It really sucks that you have to worry about what your name is or what character you're playing because some people feel personally attacked by certain characters, names and cosmetics.

The bottom line is that if you cut out the people who use moris on people just because of their cosmetics, names or characters, you'd probably hardly see moris at all. And when you did see them, you'd know that the killer wasn't targeting you in particular, they were just using it in general. Especially since most of my games that moris are used on are when there's a bunny Feng or whoever else the killer is offended at (especially the TTVs)! Like I said, I don't have a problem with moris themselves, I have a problem with the fact that killers can equip something that allows them to hook a survivor, camp them, down them off hook and remove them from the game, and they use that to directly target people whom they are biased against for whatever reason.

Well, like I said in my initial post, the names would be hidden in pre-lobby AND in-game, with peoples' portraits having the character they were playing instead. And at the end of the game, you would be able to see their names with the character they were playing attached to the end of it.

I personally don't hold grudges against survivors who taunt me, since I choose not to get offended at peoples' childish behaviors on a video game, so seeing their names doesn't mean anything to me. The most I've done was to ask someone to not clicky their flashlight so much (months ago) and they actually apologized for it. If more killers ignored "toxic" survivor behavior, e.g. crouch-spamming and flashlight clicking, then I believe there would be far less of it, as these people only do it to get a rise out of killers who are easily offended by such things. And in regard to being toxic in end-game chat, you can easily either leave early or report them for toxic messages.

Like I've said in previous messages, I myself never suggested seeing the killer and their addons, so I really don't understand why people keep referencing that to me! I myself disagree with it because, like another user said, it would just lead to a toxic war from both sides. And like I said previously before, I understood what BigBrainMegMain was saying, in that if you're going to allow one thing that is detrimental to one side, why not allow one thing that is detrimental to the other. As it is now, the toxicity is only coming from the killers' side in the form of targeting specific people, be it because they held a grudge, are wearing a certain cosmetic or playing a certain character, or had a certain name, e.t.c.. So, I'm at LEAST wanting names to be hidden from the killer until the end of the game, because I've lately been targeted by certain killers whom I run into repeatedly in the red ranks just because I looped well or have a silly name. I never crouch-spam, click flashlights or gesture at the killer, and I've been targeted just because I played well in a past game, or one of my teammates has been targeted and the entire team suffers (you have a TTV on your team? First hook ebony moris for all, I guess).

And that's better if you don't target people based on anything but their attitude, but there are far too many people who will target people for much less than that, and for different reasons that are completely asinine.

I'm sorry, but I have been targeted many times, as have many other people in the game, and it is not uncommon whatsoever for TTV gamers to be targeted because they have TTV in their name. And I would say t-bagging if the killer's body was on the ground and the survivors were crouching up and down on it, but it's not. They're crouching up and down on nothing. So, I call it crouch-spamming. Kinda weird for you to bring that up, as if it would make the behavior sound worse somehow. No matter what way it's being done, it's still a simply childish behavior that does not affect actual gameplay whatsoever, and can only offend you if you choose to allow it.

Like I said in a previous post as well, I am completely fine with moris themselves--however, I am NOT fine with them being used to personally target and ruin the games of people who did nothing to deserve it, myself being one of them. I never crouch-spam, gesture or clicky flashlights, and I have been targeted just because I played properly and looped well. And like I said as well, simply having TTV on your name causes many people to get mori-ed. You can't even advertise your twitch channel without possibly being forcibly removed from the game by a first-hook mori and being rendered unable to have an interactive game experience. And to top it off, the killers who do this will typically wipe the entire team with the first-hook ebony mori, so it's not just the TTV suffering, it's the whole team.

I will say it again: I am NOT toxic in my games at any point. However, I HAVE been targeted because I played well or had a goofy name. And survivors wouldn't be able to do actual toxic behaviors, like holding the game hostage, because you would still be able to see their name at the end of the game and report them for it. I'm sorry, but crouch-spamming and gesturing is NOT toxic. It is simply childish and rude, but it does NOT affect actual gameplay in any way, shape or form.

Like I said in my previous post.... they would still have the survivor they were playing as their "name", so it would be Dwight 1, Dwight 2, Dwight 3, Dwight 4. If they were all dressed identically, and were ACTUALLY exploiting the game or cheating, then you can make a support ticket and send them the footage. They would be able to handle it just fine from there. Or, if you're unsure and still want to report them in the lobby, you could just report all of them and let them sort out which one was the baddie.

I understand that that is a reasonable cause for concern, but please know that there are far more toxic players who use the ability to see names and characters as a way to abuse those people in any way that they can. I am not belittling cheaters or abusive survivors at all, since those things are very injurious to fun gameplay as well, but they are much less common than vindictive killers using things like moris to personally attack people and ruin their games. I don't think hiding names would embolden survivors to cheat, because there are still measures in place to expose them and take action against them.