The Death Slinger is not a bad Huntress

They have to, though, because he has an add-on that applies Exposed to someone only while harpooned. Said add-on would be non-functional if his reel-in into M1 did not count as a basic hit.

The chain is what applies the deep wounds. Not the Basic attack. You can prove this by what happens if you break the chain with an M1 but hit someone other than the Speared Survivor. No deep wounds is applied, because the attack itself isn't the source.

Legion Frenzy M1 has several special properties, not just deep wounds. For example it has no attack cooldown, refills his power bar, doesn't down Survivors (it's a set to injure, not a 1 health state damage) and activates a Killer instinct effect.

In this case however, it's that hitting a Survivor with the gun applies the "speared" effect, and the effect has a property where if a speared survivor is hit with a basic attack they will receive the deep wounds status effect.

All properties of a basic attack are included in the attack itself. It deals 1 health state of damage, and thus downs injured Survivors, it interacts with status effects like exposed and it has the standard basic attack cooldown.

I have to disagree. He is just as high a skill cap as huntress but with less reward. I can not fathom why I would choose to play him over huntress. Same movement speed but twice as long to down people and pallets screw you.

Deathslinger:

Aims

Hits

Cleans weapon and reloads (while slowed down)

Gets one more try for a down

Huntress:

Aims

Hits

Gets four more tries for a down

If a survivor is injured and drops a pallet against deathslinger, there’s nothing he can do unless it’s a really small loop. Huntress can punish that.

Deathslinger’s gun has a length of 18 meters, Huntress has infinite meters.

Huntess can chain hits with her power really quickly, Deathslinger just can’t.

Deathslinger gets punished if his chain breaks when you successfully hit a survivor. Huntress does not have any punishment when hitting a survivor.

While I do respect your decision he isn’t better then huntress at all. He’s a weaker huntress who gets punished if you don’t act quickly after successfully landing a hit on a survivor.

You mean M1 status effect perks they've nerfed already?

I just hate how like legion, he had so much potential but kinda fell flat. His addons are uninspiring and boring which add nothing to his playstyle unlike Hag. You could've had an addon that replaces the rail with an actual bullet but tremendously increase reload time. You could've had an addon that increases the range of the rail and give the gun a scope. You could've had an addon that decreases the range of the rail but has a bigger hitbox similar to a shotgun. However, none of these were taken into consideration and we have a low effort killer made like Bubba.

I mean, they flat-out wrote "Exposed" in Iridescent Coin. If they wanted to, they could have just instead written "Blah blah blah put into the Dying State" like with the wording on Iridescent Head. Seems pretty open and shut to me.

Also, the Deathslinger's power applies a Status Condition when the Survivor is damaged by the basic attack under certain conditions (in this case, when the Survivor is at full health and hit by a basic attack while speared OR when the Survivor breaks the chain while speared). Legion's Feral Frenzy just always applies a Status Condition but deals no actual damage. The Status Condition in both cases is just one that happens to force the Survivor to be in the Injured State.

Do you really think this wording explicitly negates any debates on mechanics of other perks? Like they never had bad wording before. If they figure out that they need to remove the synergy with perks, they can simply change the wording. Or forget about the wording and change it anyway. Or simply change it and introduce a bug that Iridiscent Coin doesn't work. Wouldn't be the first time something like that happens.

And you can talk about how Legion works as much as you want, with status conditions or whatever. Try to explain how Legion works with the same logic before he was changed, when Frenzy hits applied Sloppy Butcher mangled status. The power hasn't changed, the description hasn't changed, they just removed that Frenzy applies the perk's effect. So if your logic is correct, how come that doesn't apply to pre-hotfix Legion? Then Sloppy never should have applied the mangled status on Frenzy hits. It is just BHVR decision to say "nope, consistency, let's remove it". There's no reason or arguing why this could not happen to Deathslinger as well.

I think this is just too much interpretation on what we see or read, which does not have any definitive meaning. We can get an idea, we can be right with that idea, but we can also guess more than there is. Like two different wordings flashlight effects, meaning the same thing. Or knowing how efficiency actually works, just by defiing what efficiency means.

Legion attacks do not have the basic attack cooldown, do not apply 1 health state of damage and does not interact with exposed, nor did they ever.

As for your question, the chain is indeed broken with no negative effects applied to the speared Survivor.

I'm not sure how that is relevant.

That means, they make mistakes. Not everything they implement is on long sight. They may have wording in their addons or mechanics that look like intention, but they change it afterwards. And that I think they will change several stuff on the Deathslinger for release or one of the next hotfixes.

And again: we can keep discussing, but so far everything is very much based on our interpretation. The counter arguments brought up so far is interpretation on wording of addons and guessing on what his mechanic looks like, my arguments are based on what happened in the past.

I don't say they made a mistake. I just say it is possible, that this is not intended

That’s Cuz You have not played huntress at red ranks if you play huntress at red ranks it would be a miracle if you managed to hit 1 single survivors huntress is horrible deaths linger is better

This thread is like two months old.

If you, incorrectly, think Huntress isn't a viable Killer why not make a new thread instead of necromancing this one?

after playing this killer for quite some time, honestly he is a REALLY good killer when you figured out how to playh im efficiently.

i definitely agree, people calling him a "weaker huntress" have no experience with him and just judged the book by its cover.

But what makes slinger better is that he does not have go to lockers to refill I’ve played huntress and I always lose survivors when refilling in lockers and in my opinion it’s much easier hit as deathslinger and have u played huntress at red ranks red rank constantly outsmart huntress and since huntress is slow as hell she gets gunrushed in my opionion deathslinger is better and has better potential at any ranks even red ranks....

this is where we have to agree to disagree

People compare them just because they are ranged killers which is annoying. They both have pros and cons. The biggest pro for deathslinger right now is that he is really hard to loop because he can quickscope you and you're done.

The Legion is better

Agreed