Hatch needs a 5-7 second delay.

I know. I was saying it was an "exploit" (mind the quotations) because people were calling the similarly detrimental behavior (hatch D/C) an "exploit". Neither are actually exploits, they're just scummy ways to play.... but if you're going to call one an exploitation of a certain in-game mechanic, then the other is as well.

For example, I played a game against a Doctor who slugged my teammate in the middle area of Azarov's Resting Place, and proxy-camped them. Picking them up off the ground wasn't a possibility. The game went on for 3 minutes after she was initially slugged, with me hiding on the right side of the map. Meanwhile, the Doctor knew where the hatch was (LEFT side of the map), and immediately shut it after she bled out. I wouldn't call that ending the game "naturally", because it was a huge waste of time for me and my teammate. The "natural ending" would have been him hooking my teammate, shutting the hatch and triggering EGC for an actual ending. Not 4 minutes of waiting around while my teammate is getting camped to death on the ground.

But, in the end, discussing it really doesn't matter. You can't keep a Killer from slugging for the 4k, and you can't keep a Survivor from D/C'ing for their teammate to get the hatch (especially since they're already getting punished with loss of BPs and pip), since neither are necessarily against the rules.

I've played DBD with it being on 24/7 and I have never had it crash as common as the Forums makes you think it does.

If DBD is crashing, it's your machine. Not the game.

And honestly, do you think someone who DCs cares about BPs, Experience or Rift progress?

I mean, we've had this exact thread before. The majority of people agreed that it was perfectly acceptable to disconnect as a survivor if it meant stymieing the killer somehow.

Don't police my posts. If you think what I've said is reportable then do so. Otherwise feel free to ignore it.

No, it's your machine. Not DBD crashing.

Because otherwise the fact that I kept DBD on for as long as I usually do, I would experience crashes on the regular. Yet I don't. Your experience is not universal.

Okay i don't fully understand the youtube part of that, and the exploit statement you've ran into the ground like 100 times. Again, we all know lol

So does the survivor stay in the game so you can kill him and feel good because hes being a good sport and you somehow deserve that kill because whatever reasons?

Disconnect loses pip, loses points, loses bloodpoints that game, its actually like they didnt even play and lost rank.

Also say they for some ungodly reason listened to your selfentitlement rant and placed a 5sec timer for everyone else to make it harder to escape, well how would you balance it out so the survivor can have a fair chance at escaping? Do you have anything is your whole topic one sided only?

Yeah but you're not entitled to an escape either 😂

What's the difference between waiting the 4 minute bleed out timer and the 5 minute DC timer?

D/C'ing for hatch doesn't fall under any of those.... the person who does it certainly doesn't gain anything whatsoever. These definitions apply to a person personally doing something that benefits them that is exploiting an error or bug, such as glitching outside of the map. The person who D/Cs gets absolutely nothing, and is actually penalized for their action. Yes, it somewhat benefits the other Survivor, but it's still at the cost of THEIR points and rank. THEY do not benefit whatsoever from the D/C.

You know, I'm not defending hatch D/C because I think it's right. I personally would never D/C for my teammate to have the hatch (I've actually never D/C'ed in my entire game time), because I think it's dumb and I don't want to lose my points and pips. I'm not really even defending hatch D/C at all. I'm saying that calling it an exploit is wrong, because it's not an exploit. I mean, what if the slugged teammate D/Cs when the alive teammate isn't anywhere near the hatch, but then they find it anyway? Would that still be an "exploit" to you? And I'm not trying to be antagonistic at all, I'm just saying. If they implemented a "give up" option for Survivors who were slugged longer than 60 seconds (with them getting to keep all of their points and the Killer getting compensated), I think hatch D/Cs and slugging for 4ks wouldn't be a thing anymore.

I'm not talking about the hatch in this instance, people are complaining that "slugging is boring" but they still have to wait nonetheless, therefore they achieved practically nothing. It just confuses me.

I do deal with it when killers exploit in ways that don’t totally break the game. Jumping over pallets, stuff like that Legion pallet blind trick, whatever. As long as it’s a normal match that ends in an appropriate time I really don’t care about minor exploits, because I don’t consider this game to be a super serious esport.

I understand what you're trying to say, but saying Unbreakable is ***the counter*** to slugging is silly. If you're being camped while slugged (which happens frequently with slugging for the 4k in my experience, especially with stealth killers), you get up with Unbreakable and you go down again.... what are you going to do? Get up and get slugged again? No, because it only works once.

It's still not an exploit, since it is not directly benefiting the person who "exploited" whatsoever. It's just a scummy thing to do. And like I said, what if the Survivor D/Cs while their teammate is nowhere near the hatch, but they find it anyway? Would you still call that an exploit?

Please understand that in no way am I defending hatch D/Cs, since I think it's a dumb thing to do, but to call it an exploit is silly. It's just a scummy "tactic". I'm finished replying though, since I know that nothing will be done about this and to have a 4 page discussion on something that won't be addressed is asinine. No offense of course, just saying that there are better things to do!

They're talking about the Legion pallet blind thing, where you frenzy, vault the pallet while being blinded and it cancels his power with no fatigue, allowing him to immediately attack again.

Alright I get wht the situation is, but even then if you add such a timer to the game, you'll still need to balance it out with something that makes it so you dont hold every card, because remember when it's a 1on1 chase, it's all or nothing and without that hatch you really don't got alot going on for you as a survivor. Once you've been downed that's game unless you wiggle out

So in a game where you legit put that guy on the hook and he didnt dc but the timer does activate, that last survivor holds the biggest disadvantage. So what would you place to maybe balance it out. Remember this game is supposed to be about balance.

I know generally survivors have the advantage, but that's with a team so I'm souly going on a 1v1 match here.

How do you read “Legion pallet blind trick” and think that means I’m calling Legion an exploit? Good job.

.... So is disconnecting. DCing constantly is against the rules, DCing because of emergencies isn't.

If you're using DC Tech, then you're most likely doing it constantly.

I had a lag issue so I missed your last post, basically if they dc that still adds the death animation, I get you now but your earlier posts wasn't actually clear on that, but I understand your idea better now and I dont actually disagree with it much now. I don't know if I was the only one missing what you actually meant to say though.