Need do something with SLUG killers

@Entity_Hugs

I don’t mean to be rude and I know this might surprise you (I don’t know if you are new) but the entire... the ENTIRE first page was filled with “gen rushing please fix” threads when the ruin nerf happened. And it is still going on.

BOTH sides do it. Period.

Back on the topic about slugging... that’s wonderful that you can have a mindset where you basically surrender your win to a killer. That’s not everyone tho. Many people (experienced players) know how excessive it can become (as a with other mechanics) and there is nothing wrong with pointing that out.

Even if the OP didn’t use the proper language I still related because I understand how it feels like when you can’t move and do anything about it because you’re about to bleed out from how many times you’ve been slugged. That is a fact, is not to say that slugging is OP, but it is excessive/too convenient at times.

Don't trust the guy whose job is to kill you. Or, if you do, be prepared for that.

Id be fine with that, yeah some people just suck

Edit: im not going through patch notes from like years ago. Im talking oast few months.

How exactly do you expect me to explain that? All I know is the tiny bit of information about the match that you've given me.

And I'm saying "but I did that" is not a good argument, especially with this scenario.

It stops breaking hooks or it gets the slug again.

What situation were you in where the killer was able to talk to you? That's going to take more explaining.

When people complain about slugging it just tells me they don't play killer much. In the games current meta you HAVE to slug if you want a chance of winning against good survivors, emphasis on the "good". Killers simply do not have enough time to just hook each survivor one at a time. This is compounded because of all the second chance perks that work from being hooked as well, these perks have just made hooking not worth it in most cases. All the second chance perks that negate the killers map pressure have left slugging as one of the only few ways to make pressure.

Instead of complaining about slugging you should be complaining about the why the game is so poorly balanced at high ranks that most killers are forced to slug.

This is a game balance issue, not a slugging issue. Slugging is simply the symptom of that poor balance, not the sickness itself.

Not to mention the myriad of anti-slug perks that have been added over time you can choose from. If this happens that often then those perks are great for you, if it doesn't happen enough to be worth using them then this really isn't much of an issue after all is it, as it's so rare.

Yea no, just ignore ^ that guy. Dead by Daylight in it's core isn't at all about stealth gameplay. If you want to win on any side time efficiency by good positioning and decisions is the a and o.

Idk how much Killer you're playing but slugging is beside hooking and sacrificing the 3rd way to apply effective map pressure. Healing is sth you are not forced to do. You still are avaiable in the game. You can do gens, chase or distract the killer.

So when you play killer you always look at the UI how many survivors are pressured. For examble you down someone and you see the opportunity of downing someone else too: The downed guy - disabled. Someone has to come and pick him up - disabled. So there are still 2 survivors (potentially) on 2 different gens.

So when you chase the other one too and slug you have

one guy downed and disabled,

one guy chased and disabled and

one guy picking up the first guy - disabled.

And potentially one guy on a gen. If you down the chased one fast someone has to come and unhook/pick him up too. Because if they won't the survivor die and that's the holy grail of map pressure.

It's all about: What action forces the survivor to leave the gens. Totems, hooks, heals, chests or whatever are all optional.

And that's why killer slug.

What to do is pretty simple and that's what people call: learning by doing. You can use different perks to avoid those situations. You can improve yourself in a chase against killer XYZ. Learning how to mindgame, how to play loops, when to pre throw a pallet or not, when to just run in a straight line to increase the initial chase distance, or when the team as a whole isn't organized good enough to win against the opponent.

A good Killer knows exactly what's going on on a map. He knows where survivors are, he knows their playstyle and their strenght, he knows where pallets are, he knows where his hex perk is. But the survivors don't.

And that's what many players don't understand when it comes to perk choices. People dont overthink enough the value of perks. You can use Unbreakable, Decisive Strike and Dead Hard to eliminate your own and the mistakes of your team.

Or you choose perks that gives you the same map knowledge as the killer. So you know based on facts what's going on, where it's going on and who's involved. Information perks are the best survivor perks because before you run to a hook and leave the gen on the other side of a map because you don't know if the other survivor is going for the hook-safe you can run Kindred and stay at the gen and finish it before the killer comes to pop it. Or ruin just regressed it. before you bring yourself in a very dangerous position where the killer wanted you to be there Kindred helps you do avoid specific places.

What I wanna say is, if you know what's going on and what to do you can avoid situations where the killer takes all his chances to 4k as fast as possible. A killer always takes any opportunity where survivor missplayed. I do. And everytime I saw people running Kindred, Bond, Detectives, Windows I has way less of these critical plays where survivor don't split up or lead me to their weaker teammates. Where survivors ran to the hook with 3 mans where I took tha chance to cheese some downs and kills by patrolling the hook.

Games are way harder to win as a killer when survivor know what's going on and how to play in this situation.

Conclusion? Idk. Get rid of Selfkill/care or premonition and play one or two information perks.

And also learn how to play against different killer. Learning by doing. Slugging isn't the issue at all bud.

I guess you've never run into the situation that you definitely should have run into by now. But a hooked or downed survivor DOES NOT MEAN that somebody is coming to help them. Hell, a downed survivor even more so than a hooked survivor is likely got to end up with people keeping at gens instead of coming to the rescue because you need to wait for them to 99% themselves and want to wait to make sure the killer isn't camping them.

If you see somebody else after you down a survivor, it's definitely the smart move to chase them instead of hooking, but you are not disabling 3 survivors by doing so. The chances you got somebody to get off a gen at high ranks is actually rather low. They tend to wait more often than not for downed survivors if they're on a gen.

You seem pretty smart.

Sorry I forgot to mention: If survivor just leave their teammates dying you win even faster because dead survivors are the holy grail of map pressure. Because if no one comes to unhook survivors go into the second hook stage what means you just have to remember that finding this guy means he's dead. And leaving survivors on the ground gives you the opportunity of hooking, continuing slugging and go for the other ones on the gens based on if you know (bbq) where the other guys.

Sorry you were right, leave survivor dying is also a very valueable play from the survivor team.

If you talk about the last gen probably popping every second you already played that match pretty bad depending on what killer you played and how many chances you missed and mistakes you made in a chase.

So and just you don't forget. Survivors are meant to survivor if they all play perfectly. You as a killer always have the chances of killing 1,2,3 survivors. But some survivors meant to survive games even if you played perfectly too as killer.

So if the other two survivors leave their 2 teammates dying and you weren't able to stop them all then it's a good sign of game balance.