FIX CAMPING ALREADY

As a new player to this game it can be tough going up against people far above my level, but it's even worse when I get Killers that face camp. Ghostface killers are particularly prone to do this. Why? I don't know. It is sad but I agree with others that when you see a killer face camping, you just need to team up together and gen rush as many generators as you can. Face camping is incredibly dumb and serves no purpose. The Killers wind up with a pitiful amount of blood points, and they get a low overall score that can make them depip.

I think they addressed this in the last dev stream. It was annoying because what's her name shrugged her shoulders with a stupid look on her face as if to convey the idea that's there nothing to be done about it. That's true, but I don't think the devs should be so casual about a broad tendency toward lame behavior in the player base that derives from the central dynamic of the game. It's like conceding that the game isn't designed for players to have fun, which ignores the fact that player behavior is shaped almost entirely by the rules and limits of the game design. On the bright side, one of the dudes at least said they're aware of the problem and its scope and they find it annoying too, so they might try to figure out how to change up the allocation of points so as to further discourage camping and tunneling. I hope they follow through with that. Please correct me if I'm misstating the devs' intentions as expressed in the live stream.

Incidentally I used to think that rank doesn't matter at all, but I have found that generally speaking red rank killers are far less likely to camp and tunnel. I now aspire to get to red ranks and stay there just because overall the quality of the gameplay is vastly better. I get my butt whooped most of the time because I'm definitely a potato, but it's actually a lot of fun to be chased and beaten by players who are better than you.

What does liking doing gens have to do with anything? They still have to be done. Let me guess, you are someone who ignores gens and leaves it up to others to do.

If he camps, you can do them without any fear of being interrupted, and you know where he is. He will not get much in the way of xp or BP ifor hooking a single survivor once. It is a terrible strategy, unless players, like yourself, suicide in, to make a rescue, because you don't want to do gens.

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Well, removing hook stage 1 and 2 would solve camping easily. But maybe thats not a favorable way for survivors.

you can get ideas, but i think if you take camping as a strategy away, you need to compensate the killers somehow. A lot of killers camp because they are just mediocre at playing killer, and matched with much better players most of the time, and they have no other way to keep up.

So, when i started playing the game, games went on a lot longer than now, but there was less camping for sure. It just got worse after ruin was changed and the pressure and gamespeed just went up.

Personaly, i liked the longer games better, because they had more interaction, and more back and forth. Today, it often becomes very clear which side steamrolls the other.

Camping is an inherent abuse of the power role and it's really sad that the devs think its balanced.

Anyway, assuming the survivor is on the first hook...yeah there's a bit of time for every survivor to run to the hook to see if the killer is camping in solo queue. However this isn't always obvious. It could be a stealth killer or an Insidious Bubba waiting for an easy down. If the person is on their second hook, there's really no time for us to run to the hook to check. This is minimized in SWF but the devs have stated that only a small fraction of games contain a 4 man SWF which means there's always people in a match out of the loop. Doing gens isn't as easy as people think. But camping is balanced.

I very rarely see facecampers in a game, so having to do gens to get back at a face-camper is fine. In fact it makes me more determined to get them done. I can't imagine that it is a lot of fun for the face-camper either, unless people come to them to get killed. Do the gens. Don't reward them for facecamping. If everyone does that then the face-camper will realize it's a bad strategy and stop facecamping. How do you not get that? The only reason they face-camp is because it works.

You realize that that is a ridiculous statement, right. My being the "luckiest person" would imply that the vast majority of killers facecamp, which simply isn't true. The vast majority do not facecamp, as it is an extremely poor strategy against decent survivors. I don't understand why you feel the need to exaggerate. I have probably faced 6 or 7 Bubba's in a row today, which is unusual. Not one of them facecamped, and it's Bubba's that make up the biggest majority of facecampers.

I guess that's all you can say when you can't debate the point. Cheers.

Thank you. It's a well deserved honor. 😎

"Yeah it sucks for the one person on the hook, who if they hang on to the very end and don't just kill themselves, since they didn't get to really play the video game but are a true vip for being a real trooper for hanging in there to give random strangers, their team as much time as possible".

Yeah, I think the person on the hook should get a lot of blood points for hanging on till the end. It would make for fewer suicides, and make hanging on more worthwhile. For doing their part, they are helping the team succeed, and they should be rewarded appropriately.

Do you... like this game? This is a very strange perspective on the main objective that you're supposed to be doing in order to win. Why would you not work on your main objective when the killer is ceding all map control to you by camping?

On the other side, this would allow for more toxicity between survivors if one decides to troll and drag down the overall "team rating".

Edit: Maybe implement additional bp trigger every few seconds when the killer is in the vicinity of a hook without any non-hooked survivor around. As an addition to the chaser penalty for the killer

It's almost like the counter to camping is what killers have been saying all along: work on the generators.

But survivors just won't listen.

That's not very different from what happens now, a trolling player will make everyone get less points and rating. Bad players will always be here no matter what system we make, we shouldn't not do something that would be better in most cases just because every once in a while some butt is going to mess with it. There is no way to stop a player that wants to troll from trolling without banning them.