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Just imagine for a second that your in my position
So let's say you are a killer main, and you decide to play survivor. Your not super good, Hell you aren't even decent... But your definitely not bottom of the line "garbage" or a noob as some would say. You play on Asylum and four of you are on one generator. You go down after the Bill and then the Lori comes to trying to heal you where you were downed. By this point in time the bill's been hooked and your about to be healed up, even though you would prefer the Lori escape and come back for you after you've been hooked.
Now she heals you and you decide that after you knew he had BBQ and Franklin's from his attacks and actions... You can only assume he has worse perks correct? And boy did he ever; having NOED and the fourth perk I don't really remember seeing mostly because the game lasted only 45 seconds. So I would like to point out that I am a firm believer in the idea that when a person disconnects from the game they must face a punishment (Yes I did disconnect; More so I actually quit the match instead of being one of those kids who pulls my ethernet cable and pretending I lost internet or something) and watched the rest of the game.) Now this is to note, was my move a bad move for my team? More than likely yes, but it wasn't in our favor to win, especially once it was made known he had add-ons for his chainsaw revving speed. This man wanted to sweat that game and boy did he.
So what happened after the game was some serious salt from the survivors on my side (big ######### surprise there, excuse my language) and of course the first person to start the argument was a purple rank (really big shocker there, probably upset because they didn't pip; can't tell you how many times I meet red and purple ranks who act like rank is a measure of skill... It isn't, it can be in a sense but really it shows how little you go outside.) She stated that what I did was "weak" of me and that I was throwing... First of all, throwing means I stayed in game and threw the game off balance, if I was to throw the game by disconnecting... I would have done it as soon as we loaded in. What I did was leave that bullshit match behind because the whole point of this game is to enjoy the game, not be a punching bag for a seriously rediculous build.
Again, one could argue that my move was a "bad move for the team." But first of all, for those who are too prideful to admit the truth, just stop reading here because no one wants to hear you bullshit... If there wasn't a DC penalty we all know my team would have started disconnecting and finding new games right away. Most of you would do it and I wouldn't expect anything else of you. Toxic builds are meant to be toxic and no one should have to deal with that drama. (I love watching N00b3 and Monto, but sometimes they run a build so nasty that if ever I faced them... I'd DC for sure and I hardly ever disconnect from games. That being said and myself getting off track... What are your opinions on the matter? If someone disconnects from a game where you know there is a very toxic build in play and the killer is just relentlessly hunting down everyone without Mercy (And I mean WITHOUT MERCY, this Bubba had us all dead before we could even get the gen half way as a group of 4) would you honestly hate them that much to go out of your way to claim they are the reason this game is "trash" or that the community is this "worthless?"
I'm not trying to shame the killer (though as a Nurse main it's disgusting to see a bubba play like that, I have to bring the heat if I really want to win a 4k and most Billy and Bubba players just have to worry about positioning and a single chainsaw dash) however the fact that the survivors blame me for the game going south? And the killer joining in on the argument? Is it really my fault? And if you REALLY think it's my fault please put a decent answer below besides the casual salty response of "You quit, that's why it's your fault" because we all know damn well that without DC penalty in place that bubba would have been lucky to kill two people without a DC.
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"Most of you would do it and I wouldn't expect anything else of you."
I've never dc'd from a game and I can cheerfully represent some of those people who aren't interested in the forums and also do not dc when faced with an adversarial situation. If you really want out, just die on hook, it doesn't take long.
The reason the game has a dc bloodpoint bonus for the remaining players is because they realise with one less player the game is less enjoyable and less balanced. It's pretty well recognised that survivor teams are balanced for 4 players vs the one killer. Taking yourself out of that equation for...no particular reason? seems a little petty.
Even better to say that everyone else would act that way so what you did was justified.
I like how in so many areas of life people spin that lie to themselves. "Oh everyone else is awful so I can be too", "oh no one does this so I shouldn't have to do it either", "oh no one cares about this so why should I?"
It's a big lie. Honestly being put to the test and failing outright in the world right now. We know a lot of people are making the world work at no small risk to themselves, and even outside of a pandemic, the world is literally built on the idea that person 1 won't attack person 2, and that in fact person 1 will aid person 2 in most situations.
That's how civilisation works.
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I just want to make sure I understand. You dc'd because leatherface ( ######### tier killer that can only keep up when he runs very specific add ons, and is so bad often HAS to run noed) managed to down all of you really early in the game. Which means major mistakes were made on your end anyway. And you want us to put ourself in your position and say yes, we'd dc too?
No. No I wouldnt. On top of that you said he was running bbq, franklins and noed so im betting his rank wasnt even high. Your team was right to yell, if you were going to get waxed then take the waxing and learn from it
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Learn from it? Your right, my team's actions to stick around and die off like flies must be all my fault correct?
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Better yet, your right... Let's reward the insta down killers by letting them get 4k after 4k at younger survivor ranks because the only way to really counter them is to loop? I hate to be that person who screams "Nerf this killer" but Leatherface is so damn easy to play that you can still 4k without even using his chainsaw... I've done it myself. His perks are absolutely disgusting; Being able to knock items out of the hands of others unless they have good memory or Plunderers to return later and get it (assuming the tunneling Leatherface didn't down them and hook them till death.) One that when you hook people you can look around to find your very next target to tunnel for a solid 20 seconds at most (assuming you have pallets to waste or the killer isn't skilled with looping and 360's.) And one which keeps survivors from being able to see other downed survivors auras (which I'm actually perfectly ok with as long as someone isn't just slugging to death the survivors.) Point being that Leatherface is the "go-to" when you want an easy game (especially at lower ranks) only way to ever combat him is to stay away and not everyone can do that especially early on. He's a killer meant to quickly down people without issue unless the killer behind the mouse is inexperienced
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"Leatherface is so easy to play that you can still 4k without even using his chainsaw"
Then you're just playing an M1 killer. Which would be the same as most any other M1 killer. What the ######### does this even mean?
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You got downed too, you made a mistake somewhere. Lets say youre right tho, it was all your teams fault and you dindunuffin, that doesnt justify you dipping early. Even if they were the worst of the worst potatoes, at least they stuck it out
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Now youre showing your experience level with the game, which is fine we were all there at one point, but let me clue you in. Leatherface is awful. Like really awful. He only stands a chance at using that chainsaw with very specific add ons. This is why hes known for being a face camper, its literally the only thing hes good for. This a 4v1 and I can count on half my hand the number of times Ive seen a bubba down the whole team as quickly as youre describing. 99.99% of the time it doesnt go like that. Usually hes lucky to get a few chainsaws in total without those add ons. Thats why hes so weak, because hes just a regular loopable m1 killer the vast majority of the time.
What you SHOULD do is play as him. If its so easy you'll be a r1 bubba in no time right? Couple of weeks? That wont happen but what will happen is youll understand his power better and will know how to counter him. Youll also gain a very healthy respect for any bubba you see not straight up face camping
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Haven't ever met a Bubba who didn't facecamp
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Not sure what you want from this post. You quit the game because it wasn't going your way, so yes, the other survivors have a right to be upset. You suspected that the killer would have NOED, but you couldn't know until the end, which you quit before reaching. Even if the killer had it, that is not an excuse to quit. Neither is determining in advance that you aren't going to win, so you just quit, rather than making an effort. You don't get better at a role when you quit when things aren't going your way, and you screw over your teammates in the process.
There is no such thing as a toxic build. The fact that you don't like it doesn't make it toxic. Also, your idea that most people DC when games are difficult, is completely wrong. Clearly that is something that you have made up in your own mind to try and justify your actions to yourself. I have never DC's from a game, no matter how hard it got, and MOST people don't.
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I'm going to need to see some citation and a peer reviewed study on that statement at the end. And you didn't read well if you saw I said "end game chat" you would know I was around when the game ended. I disconnected seconds before the killer basically ended everyone else and hooked them all (30 seconds isn't all that much.) I may have been hasty to claim the things I have but you yourself were just as hasty to force the public on your side with a statement "MOST people don't" because I definitely remember when DC penalties weren't a thing it happened more than we saw Nurse players and Pigs thank you
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I know you stayed around till the end of the game, but when you DC'd you didn't know. Even if you did, that is not an excuse to DC.
Force the public on my side? What kind of nonsense is that. I play the games, and I see. Yes, many people DC'd in the past, but it was far from the majority. Why the ######### would I need to provide a citation and peer review study? You certainly didn't for your ridiculous claim. You did something wrong and you would like to believe that most people do that, to make yourself feel better. Well, that just isn't the case.
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I can already tell you have less than 500 hours in this game.
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And what is that even supposed to mean? How does one bring a peer review study for an opinion I clearly stated in my own post long ago?
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I don't see how that would matter in the slightest, you don't have to have over 2000 hours, 1000 hours or even 500 hours to understand how a game works if you know how to look at it from a mechanical point of view. To understand things on a level of balance is to be more than someone who plays the game every day or not. The developers don't play this game every day (I'm willing to bet some of them their selves don't even have over 500 hours in a game yet they are qualified to make changes to the system and I don't see you making points against that?) Go for whatever you want, this isn't here for the sake of argument or slandering this is here for the sharing of an opinion and if yours doesn't fit with mine then kindly share yours in reminding yourself that we're all supposed to respect one another.
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Just because your teammates suck or you don’t like the killer/build does not give you an excuse do DC.
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your argument is fair in some ways but dcing is huge for the other 3 players, like seriously dcing means so much
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Thats necause you havent played long enough to meet us
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I don't get it. Are you laying out a perfectly pedestrian scenario as a defense for disconnecting because of your poor choices? Because, I mean, you disconnected. Yes, you're part of the problem in this scenario.
Also, re: "Most of you would do it" -- I have 1,700 hours in-game on my Steam record, and I have literally never decided to disconnect from a match, not once. I would not do that, regardless of whether or not there is a penalty.
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To be fair, I'm a consistent red/purple-rank survivor with (as stated up above) 1,700 hours in-game, and I almost never meet Leatherface players who aren't campers. It's gotten to the point where I automatically assume that if Leatherface takes you to the basement, you are as good as dead because he will camp. I am proven right about 95% of the time.
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Your team was right to yell at you. YTA
You seriously need to learn whats toxic etc. because theres a huge difference between running an optimal build (no matter the percieved bull-crappery) of any kind of perks, and Dcing early because you "don't want to play with said person". Sure your entitled to leaving for any reason whatsoever, but your teammates are right to call you out for Dcing expecially over a build and not a bug, or a killer mori spamming you or trapping you in a corner, or using a bug on you that depletes your enjoyment of the game.
T-bagging isin't toxic. Builds aren't toxic. things that genuinely take away from your ability to play and enjoy the game? are toxic. Just because a builds powerful or useful doesn't make it toxic. hell those aren't even some of the strongest things i've seen a leatherface use.
I could understand if he face camped you in the basement and you did that. but even then you could just ######### on hook, or wait it out to give your team a fighting chance. i would understand if he slugged you all and left everyone bleeding on the ground for 2mins instead of hooking. but he didn't. your just salty over a build.
And sure, i could be on my percieved high horse here. but i 99% of the time don't dc from games, because it ruins the fun for everyone else. i've Dc'ed from dead by daylight on 3 occasions in my 3 years of playing this game. Once to a wraith working with a ace to farm me and others off hook to mori (using ace's perk and bond to find survivors and bodyblock them so that the killer could kill them.) Once when the game loaded only 3 survivors, and the one that didn't load was my friend (before games would cancel if a player didn't load in) and once recently as a joke at the end of a game where i took my penalty with pride, after unhooking myself in a survivors face at the exit gate after which we both could of run out the door as the killer was nowhere in sight, but seeing the reaction of the other survivor was priceless after i kob'ed and t'bagged in their face. they found it funny after the game too and so did the killer, having wondered what had happened. Even still i probably shouldn't of dc'ed then.
Would i dc entering a match with an unfavourable outcome if i were to face no penalty? No. i've been there. on both the killer and survivor side Faaaar before they added Dc penaltys. i'd rather play a match and see how it goes, then instant dc'ing on a leatherface just because i lost my flashlight and several of us got downed at the start of the match. god there were so many matches i used to play as doctor or trapper against 3-4 of the old DS all flashlights etc. or when i'd go against a 5-7 blink nurse (As nurse could have 7 blinks at release date) with bbq, ruin and noed.
Your entitled to your ability to DC. but that doesn't mean you should do it.
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95%. Mama said shes never met 1. That was my point, theyre out there you just have to play long enough to see them.
And yeah if youre playing against bubba its really dumb to go down anywhere near the basement. Thats one of the very few things hes good at. Cant get mad at someone playing to their characters given strength.
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rank doesn’t matter hours in the game thou does. You gonna tell me that you don’t learn the more your play something? First you camp cause sometimes it’s the right play but as you play you learn how to pressure gens and it gives you more control so you learn to be better and hours played would reflect the time put in it to get better.
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