Teams like this are borderline invincible
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That’s why I said to pair it with Botany Knowledge as it can be a good counter to SB. In my experience, when I bring in a Medkit the killer brings in Franklin’s so it just feels pointless.
At the end of the day, people are free to play with whichever perks they want and I know from experience that Self-Care has been able to carry my team to victory before.
The problem isn’t with the perk, it’s with how people use it. I always prioritise doing a generator over healing myself, but there are plenty of times when I need to be healed and SC is the only viable option.
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You're sacrificing two perk slots for a single use, I honestly don't think it's worth it.
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I mean, they did the same for ruin. All ranks were taken into consideration.
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Each to their own, but I like that combo together. As it helps me and the team as I can heal other people faster too.
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The bit about the 80% usage was about red rank only.
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How did the David make it to rank 2? Let alone red ranks, when they think it a good idea to self care under the effects of sloppy and thana?
Heck, ghostface will sometimes get reveal through walls or killer instinct will fail to work for some reason.
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I'm so sorry, PS4 MM is really effed at the moment. =/
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Because pipping as a Survivor is easy when you play as selfishly as possible.
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Fair, that's my bad then. Just checked and you're right, sorry.
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Welcome to red ranks where your kit doesn't matter and all survivors run meta perks!
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You what else is almost impossible? Revealing Ghostface in his current state.
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Yeah that explains why my brain was having a 404 error. For i try to be a team player, when playing survivor.
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Trust me, it could have been even worse if they ran something like deliverance.
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Not sure if it’s irony or hypocrisy, even if this isn’t your “best build,” it’s still pretty sweaty brining NOED and mori. And again the survivors could say the same thing, if they wanted to try hard there are definitely better perks combos. Plus only two of them brought an item and no one used a map.
If this is going to tilt you enough to make a forum post you are in for a big surprise when you face the sweaty SWFs
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Same. And the Ghostface build is not that great on top of that. Did you notice that those "invincible" survivors use AmN and WGLF? xD
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Two of them are using WGLF and one is using Any means... I’m not saying the other perks aren’t meta but like we’ve been saying they could have synergized a lot better. When you get 4 toolboxes with BNP on Ormond we’ll talk
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You've literally made comments in the past encouraging suicide on hooks because the killer didnt follow your invisible rulebook. You patato agaisnt ghostface and its obvious. Dont even say otherwise. 90% of people will agree that's not a sweaty loadout. I pray for the day that I find you in a pre game lobby so I can show you an actual sweaty loadout. You won't make it off first hook.
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Thanks man. Ill most definitely try that build.
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i mean the games broken AF regardless, as long as every survivor does gens its a pretty much GG. when playing killer you have to rely on the killer you play and their ability, the map, your perks and the survivors you are up against, unlike survivor you kinda just need your team to do the gens which is weird to say that there are alot of red ranks that dont. iv had killer games where i insta down in every chase within 20seconds or less and still people escape or i can kill everyone getting 10+hooks with 4 gens still left. when youre against survivors that can loop or they do gens accept a loss tbh. When the new ranking is made and survivor is harder to rank up so green ranks havent hit red they will see how broken the game is when you get 4 people that can play is, not to mention the broken meta of second chances
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That remark is how I know you are a survivor main and have no idea how a killer works. Nearly every killer Iri ad-on in this game isn't just mediocre they are outright trash as in literally worse than the brown ad ons.
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Honestly. In otz's add on tier list I dont think a single Iri made it past b besides iridescent heads for huntress.
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Please tell me someone commented on how nice the ds order looked. A perfect diagonal line
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Sorry man, but am I missing something?
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I run doc with a no heal build and just keep slugging. If they unhooked i just tier them to madness 3. You can't win them all and btw i don't recommend noed against swf. You can eventually weed out the weak link in a swf group.
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Part of the problem is that you are playing outside of your skill tier. Ghostface can get easy downs+no Ed for extra endgame clutch tells me you've been pipping when you shouldn't have. Until you're able to be at that rank with a terror radius killer, getting kills while the gens are up, you'll still think that those loadouts are impossible to face.
Inb4 I face red ranks at rank 10.
Yes you will but you'll also face more clueless survivors.
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Use a different killer. Up your skills. It sucks just as much on non swf teams. Keep nerfing survivors because they’re “op” and they won’t be playable or fun to play. Gg ez every time playing as killer.
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I just hit rank 4 after 3 double pips with docter... I can handle terror radius killers with no problem lmao. Honestly think docter is better then ghostface from what I've seen. Hitting red ranks as killer is impossible for some people. I clearly have the skill dude. Idky you think I'm a ######### killer because I run noed on a killer that is almost impossible to get insta downs with anyways. That might be the worst advice I've gotten today no offense. Seemed more like insults than helpful info.
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A couple things, not to be that guy but we are 3 weeks into rank reset this is when almost everyone starts to get into the higher ranks. I know, I know this is where you tell me you barely have time to play or you would’ve already been red rank. Gotcha heard that before.
Second, getting red ranks at all isn’t about “being good,” it’s more about time. Yes generally red rank players are better than green but it doesn’t mean they’re always good. I am red ranks in both and there is a huge gap between me and the “good red rank players”, I can win at red ranks with Doctor, Wraith, spirit and Huntress because half of the red survivors are potatoes. I can escape or at least pip at red ranks with meme builds because the survivor emblem system is busted.
Im not going to judge you for using NOED because it’s a perk in the game so if killers use it they use it. There is a counter it’s called cleaning totems or even remembering locations do you can find out later if any of them lit up.
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Holy ######### noed has a counter? That's crazy dude. I thought the hex was just a pointless attachment. And hitting red ranks as killer 100% = skill. Why else would there be a red rank killer shortage if it was so easy to get to?
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Because playing killer at red rank is stressful, not just about difficulty. Again I’ve been red rank for a long time I’m not saying it’s no skill at all but I’ve played against plenty of green and purple killers better than red.
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Until red ranks, it's easy to get constantly 3-4k with Ghost Face and other killers, but at red ranks, it becomes really sweaty. If you ######### up the 3-gen strat, it's basically over for you, esp. if they are a 3 or 4 man swf.
The problem with balancing is, if you make it more difficult for survivors, because at red ranks you have to, but the low rank survivors will suffer even more.
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Fun fact ; Unbreakable was a perk to prevent a thing at first ;
Unbreakable was to prevent those leatherfaces/billies who would down everyone and just leave them to bleed out
Now it's one of the most used perk that gives survivors second chances because let's be honest in a red rank game a killer WILL have to slug at one point to win.
BT was to prevent camping.
Now survivors just do suicide missions on the hook because BT litterally turns a suicide mission into a mission.
Now couple that with DS which gives a 60 seconds immunity, coupled with unbreakable to counter slugging to counter DS.
Taking unbreakable to counter slugging used to counter DS is litterally like spirits who take stridor to counter iron will, it's ######### stupid and whined a lot about.
I don't actually know where I'm going with this, this post is probably very off-topic or something, Idk. I just wanted to show my opinion.
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Well they have full meta perks except for the last two that have WGLF and AMN. So it doesn't surprise me. DH, DS, BT are the most common used perk among survivors since years.
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No, Wraith, Doc, Shape, Hag, Clown, Spirit, Legion, Plague and Freddy also have an addon in A- or S-Tier, atleast according to Otz.
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I guarantee you are not as good as you think you are.
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Ok? What would you like to do to validate that point.
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How would you nerf, Dead Hard, Borrowed Time, Adrenaline, Decisive Strike, Sprint Burst, Iron WIll and Unbreakable?
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As much as I'd love BHVR to constantly change the game with different survivor and killer perks shifting in and out of the meta....you know already that's not gonna happen lmao.
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My point is once you get better at the game you will understand that survivors running meta perks doesn’t make them “invincible” if you actually know what you’re doing.
All this post shows is that matchmaking is bad because you got placed with players outside your skill level.
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Damn, 4 Dead Hards. If those survivors were good loopers I feel bad for you.
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I’m pretty sure the Spirit’s speed addon was at least A, and the Hag had an S. I would imagine for Doctor at least queen or king is A if not both. The silent wraith bell and plague aura were both A or S.
The clown instant down finger was S even though he added the disclaimer it doesn’t make clown a “good killer.”
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Youre joking, right?
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It doesn't make them invincible but there damn near it considering how many hit it would take to kill one of them. And the ranking was fine.
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You faced people with higher ranks and were full perk build, It's not entirely your fault, but you should definitely learn from your mistakes that game because that's nowhere near the worst you will ever face, I can assure you.
To start off, let's talk about the fact that 2 of the survivors have We're Gonna Live Forever, a perk that does absolutely nothing?
On top of that, 2 survivors did not even bring items. Flashlights are almost entirely avoidable, and sometimes give you free hits if the other survivor is clumsy.
2 players had Borrowed Time, which wouldn't be an issue if you were pressuring gens instead of tunneling the survivor off the hook. Even then, you can just stealth and avoid Borrowed Time completely.
Any Means necessary does nothing if you break every pallet. You should not leave strong pallets around regardless.
Unbreakable would do nothing if you do not decide to slug the survivor who has it.
You did not have Nurse's Calling maxed out, already, your build is crippled in comparison to others who do.
You brought NOED, a perk that can be avoided, and needs 5 gens to be completed for it to take effect.
Corrupt Intervention is useless if you cannot apply pressure
I personally don't see the issue in this match if we're just judging things based on the endgame screen. You could've brought a Mori as easily as a survivor could've brought a key. In fact, considering you can see survivors items, you could have equipped a Mori in response to the key. There is no shortage of mori's i can promise you that.
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You mean the perks that exist to try to ensure the survivor gets those two other hooks?
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Yeah, this is a matchmaking thing more than anything else here. Those squads are beatable, but you need a combination of experience and viable killer. I would argue Ghostface isn't going to have much for a team of legit rank 1s with more than one good runner. But if we insist on using Ghostface here, Corrupt and NOED have to go. Corrupt doesn't slow down gens. It makes them slightly inconvenient for a short period of time to some survivors. NOED won't help against those teams. You can get one instadown with NOED or use Sloppy to stall a little more and get the exact same effect as NOED when they get frustrated and stop healing.
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Facts. GF is much better as a stealth hit and runner. Myers has a way better insta down lmao
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Against good teams NOED is a waste of a perk slot. Period. You'll get zero use. That iri is pointless because it forces him to stalk which is honestly not a smart strat against good SWFs and it forces him to lean. Leaning was already fast enough. GF's best addons are just the ones that reduce his recharge time. Heals don't take long even with sloppy and even if they don't heal nurses becomes useless. His kit is FAR from not being enjoyable. It's entirely possible his only useful perk was Corrupt and Corrupt could have just pushed them to go for totems until the gens opened lmao
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I run sloppy, Nurses, BBQ, and then the last perk is just whatever I feel like. Could be discordance or Thana. Probably discordance. It's really good if you don't play stalk heavy or commit to chases. Just pop up for your free hits and grabs. I win most games I play pretty handily.
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