Locking Dwight's Last Memories Behind A Paywall... Nice...

It's not the entry point that's the problem

There is a kate challenge that unlocks dwights story

the only licensed character they could make lore for is Ghostface, because hes half licensed half original

@Peanits made it clear that only chars that van be bought with shards will be in the Tomes.

Ehm probably would help if you looked at the names if you feel that people are changing their stories all the time :p

It's not a problem for me cause i have Kate. I just can understand why it would be annoying for someone who doesn't want Kate

I apologize i was combining your complaints with the original poster's complaints because they are VERY similar.

Imagine locking a character's lore behind a challenge for another character that you have to invest in. Excellent move BHVR, as if there weren't enough people buying Kate already.

It may not be a paywall but it's still a heavy investment just so you can have an achievement for another character, not to mention this is a horrible investment otherwise.

If you only care about the lore, then you don't need to do the archives at all. You can find the lore on the internet. If you care about completing it, then expect to have to put work in to complete it. The fact that you don't want to unlock characters means there's a limit to how much completion you care about anyways. It's either worth it to your or it isn't. And complaining about having to put effort into getting something isn't going to get you sympathy from the majority of players who constantly have to put effort into getting things.

so your point is that you dont intent to get the things required for the challenges, yet you complain about not having the things required to beat the challenges... ?

Which challenges are the wall for you exactly? Excluding the Kate challenge you can still do the Dwight challenge.

Its not blocked. You can do it without doing the Kate challenge.

If you don't have to pay real life money for the character, it's flippin' free. How much more free does it need to be?

It's like people don't know what a paywall is anymore.

Also, to any of the people saying "paywall isn't the point of the post" or whatever, it's kind of hard to say that when the title of the post is literally "LOCKING DWIGHT'S LAST MEMORIES BEHIND A PAYWALL... NICE..." If it was any different of a title/complaint I wouldn't be saying this.

I really vibe with this issue. I just started playing last Halloween myself (not including the maybe 5-10 I'd put in with some friends long prior), so I had the perspective of an already absurd and growing paywall. In the time since then, I've managed to put in something like 140 dollars. I should note that includes the switch version (15) and maybe 5 or 10 bucks on the mobile version. I understand that the devs can say half of their locked content can be bought with shards, but you can't enjoy a killer or even survivor to their fullest without the perks of the others. Even beyond that, shards come ridiculously slowly to ever make getting all the original characters via that route without playing every single day for 14 hours like a maniac possible or realistic. The profile leveling system feels like a soft joke, and could really do with an update or two. Maybe every 5 levels you get to unlock a perk from a randomly generated selection or get 50 auric cells or something. I mean it's bad enough the grind for new players at any point in the last 2 years or so has been ridiculously tedious and overwhelming, imagine if you didn't have BBQ. A perk that, no matter what they say about the shrine, is not available for free under almost any circumstances. Also, I know cosmetics are sort of just that - cosmetics, but the pricing feels cruel. Ten dollars for a skin on a character that costs 5 or sometimes even less if you buy dlc or they're on sale feels weird. At least legendary skins are complete model swaps, with a lot of work behind them and seemingly often a license as well. Why does ash himself and all of perks cost basically the same amount of money as a slightly different shade of pants? That's just weird as hell. Either way, the bigger problem is obviously the paywalls in the game's actual progression. If you were to go back about a year and ask people what they would think if DbD got a mobile game, they'd probably laugh and say something about how it'd have an even worse grind and paywall, with microtransactions left and right.

We now live in a world where the mobile version of DbD somehow has LESS of a paywall than the main game! With no hard paywalls! That is absolutely insane. Within just maybe 30 hours of playing you can get bubba having spent not so much as a penny.

Why? Why is it like this? I don't think the devs intend to be this, like, 'greedy' about it. I think instead they just don't realize how overwhelming the paywall is for players joining the scene at this point. It makes the game a monstrous task as opposed to a fun and interesting set of challenges, goals, and rewards. I think visiting this topic should be a high priority for them, even with all the others that need attention. I know how much they care about keeping a steady flow of newcomers, so I think this would make a lot of sense to put attention and resources into.

How would the devs accomplish this, you might ask? Well, I think any amount of help would be good. I know they're planning to visit prestige rewards, and if that means giving you a few auric cells for your trouble as I believe the mobile version does, that would be a good start, so long as the numbers are right. I think beyond that the game does need a massive overhaul to the progression system though. It wasn't designed with the amount of content we have now in mind, and it shows. That, and it doesn't feel very personal or proportional. We need more overall progression systems for your account, ones that vary from other games to offer a unique and interesting path of choices and rewards. And then we need either more control over the progression systems for each character and side (currently being unable to get the perks you want on the bloodweb for 150 levels or more, for example) or very different systems in their place. I can't imagine what this would look like, but I'm a dumbass spending too much time ranting about a game I know I'm gonna spend too much money and time on and I'm not paid to do it so uhhh yeah devs can pretty much take over from here 🤐

(Also for clarity I have 900 hours on Steam and I feel like I've gone nowhere for the most part, send help)

Don't you escape most matches on your second hook? If not, just try to kobe your first time on hook. Whala, challenge complete.

(Accidental Duplicate)

That isn't the issue they have, the issue is a character's lore is locked behind challenges that require you to play and or use a teachable from a completely different character who so happens to not be immediately available to use.

Boiling Point is questionable but at least fine in only requiring you have Boil Over meaning you can technically complete it as Dwight as long as you have the teachable unlocked (and as they said any required teachables would be guaranteed to appear at least once in the Shrine during the corresponding Rift if you don't own the character they're tied to.)

Sing Another Day requires you play as Kate... to unlock lore for Dwight? Are we missing a sentence or something in Dwight's lore saying something like "Kate was eating a sandwich in the background" or anything that'd explain why she apparently is relevant towards it? And by a quick run through the previous Tomes I haven't seen any challenges like it that requires you to play as a completely different character to unlock lore not tied to them.

TL;DR: Paywall was probably a poor word to describe the issue, Actual issue is they're confused why Kate is required at all to unlock lore she is 100% irrelevant towards unless she has some special guest star appearance in it we're missing.

I have completed all other challenges for Dwight's lore, but to finish this one I would have to get Kate. Which kinda sucks, because I had previously bought her perks from the shrine for other challenges, thinking it would be more cost effective. Wish I could at least get BP for the perks if I buy her, the way you do when buying teachables you already own from the shrine.