Bringing back a great thread: WHO IS YOUR NEMESIS?

I like some Nea mains as teammates and Other Nea mains I dislike.I mostly dislike the ones that do the whole fake unhook save.

Trapper. He's just too smart. Or i'm a blind piece of aubergine, you decide.

Honestly, i wanted to say claudette, but quantons are so damn smart.

It depends. Freddy, Spirit, and Deathslinger are a sign I'm gonna have a bad time because they have insanely good chase for no effort whatsoever. Usually, though, this means that the people who play them are pretty stupid, because otherwise they'd be playing someone who takes effort to learn, so I can at least be rewarded for being better at the game than them instead of punished. But if I'm going against a Nurse, I get nervous because the ONLY people who play Nurse anymore are the people who are really, really good with her and can destroy anyone and everyone with a blindfold on.

As a Killer, Ace. For some reason, Aces are usually really good, especially if they're wearing his DLC-exclusive tuxedo outfit. Unless I'm playing Survivor, in which case they're about as smart as a Bill player.

Oh gosh you guys. Deathslinger not Breathalizer!! My spell check is always writing crazy thongs. Edits not working. I feel super embarrassed.

Found the Deathslinger main.

Nemesis Killer: The Shape. He just keeps on taking from me, and Tier 2 is the only time I feel like my heart might make it through the match.

Nemesis Survivor: Oddly, the worst I've had is Adam!! They often seen all cocky, what with there edumacation and shizzle.

A special mention goes out to The Ghost Face. I don't have so much of a problem against him, but that bumwipe just annoys me.

"good players would play Deathslinger since it's easy to 4k with Huntress."

What you just told me is like saying "Nurse doesn't take skill because she's the best Killer in the game." Better =/= easier; if that were true, Legion would be harder than any other Killer on the roster.

"But my point was that your logic is that of a scrub"

Imagine calling someone a scrub when you main Deathslinger.

"But you've put limitations in your mind about this game that are holding you back."

I have put exactly zero limitations on myself. The hell are you on about?

"Give it some thought."

I've given it plenty of thought. And I've come to the steadfast conclusion that if you play Freddy, Spirit, or Deathslinger, then you want to be able to do well but not have to put in the effort of actually being better than your opponent. You want to win without trying. And as a result, I dislike going against these three Killers because they take incredibly little effort and the skill of the Survivor vs. the skill of the Killer becomes much more irrelevant than against any other Killer.

"Show me a player who can 4k a 4 men red ranks SWF (who play as they should, no mistakes) as Legion or Clown without perks or addons on Cornfields and I'd say that's the most skiller gamer I've ever seen on DBD."

That is literally impossible precisely because both of those Killers are incredibly basic. Against a perfect or even a good team, winning as those Killers is not a matter of skill. Your skill becomes completely irrelevant. Those two Killers are so incredibly simplistic that they physically do not have the capabilities to win against good Survivors. Just because a Killer like Nurse has those capabilities doesn't make her any easier; it just makes her stronger.

Again, saying a Killer is easier just because they're better is like saying handling a Desert Eagle is easier than handling a BB gun because the Desert Eagle packs more punch. Make no mistake, Huntress is better than Deathslinger, but she's also harder. Much, much harder. You must be much better at Huntress to perform well.

Exactly, and Huntress is harder to use than Deathslinger. There are more situations where a Huntress's power works against her (huge TR, locker reloads, etc.) and because of her much longer rev, there is significantly less room for error as Huntress. However, learning not to make mistakes grants you a powerful chase tool that can be used up to 5 times in a chase at base.

Meanwhile, Deathslinger is the opposite: He has a smaller TR with quiet music that allows him to be stealthier, and his rev is so incredibly fast that the simple act of him having a gun is usually enough to psych the Survivor out, even if the Deathslinger isn't using it. In multiple ways, his power does the work for him, whereas Huntress's power forces her to work harder. He also has the advantage of ironsights, a less clunky hitbox, and a projectile that is immune to gravity, making his gun much easier to aim than Huntress's hatchets. He also doesn't need to reload at a locker and can do so in the middle of a chase.

However, Deathslinger has some hard limitations that make him worse than Huntress, and these limitations are completely and utterly irrelevant to his skill. Those two limits would be his range, and his reload—it does not matter if you are the best shot in the entire universe; the range of your gun does not exceed 18 metres. In addition, no matter how well you use your power, how clutch of a shot you landed, whether you hit or miss, you have no choice but to reload after every single shot. Huntress's limits can be overcome, but Deathslinger's cannot. However, that does not mean he is more difficult. You cannot compare the difficulty of a limit that can be overcome with the difficulty of a limit that can't.

That is why Deathslinger is easier than Huntress, despite being worse: His skill ceiling overall is much, much lower as he suffers from far less disadvantages, but the disadvantages he does have do not go away as the Deathslinger becomes more skilled. You cannot master what cannot be mastered.

To bring back the analogy of guns: If I had to learn to shoot right-handed guns when I'm left-hand dominant, but by learning to do so I become more accurate with a gun than a right-hand dominant individual, that does not mean it was easier for me to do. It just means I'm better. Similarly, just because Huntress is better does not make her easier. It is much more difficult to verse Survivors equal to your skill with Huntress than it is with Deathslinger until you get to high levels, at which point Deathslinger's limits give him the same issue Clown and Legion has: His kit just isn't good enough for his skill to be relevant. You cannot bring skill into a matter of a legitimately insurmountable challenge. Deathslinger is much easier to pick up than Huntress, and you will hit Deathslinger's skill ceiling much faster than Huntress's. This makes Deathslinger easier, but overall it makes him worse.

There's a term for this in video games: Skill vs. reward, sometimes referred to as risk vs. reward. Deathslinger is a low-skill, low-reward Killer: Easier to learn, but can only do so much. Conversely, Huntress is high-skill, high-reward: Capable of doing much more when played well, but actually getting to the point where you're playing her will takes much more time.