I am gonna quit soon if u don't fix this
Camping. Guys, its so stupid. I get camped like every match, literally every match. If not, someone else of my team get camped. Its just no fun anymore. I dont even care about my rank anymore, cuz the rank is bullshit. When i play killer i mostly don't even use his abilities like phase walk or ghostface's stalking. I do that and still get my 4k in high purple or red lobbies. I just dont wanna play survivor anymore even tho i mained survivor. You get camped, 3 minutes of searching wasted for 2 min of playing. Amazing
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Going to be honest mate, it's a tactic, and aslong as the team isn't over altruistic, it doesn't work.
The devs have said before that they've got no intentions on changing camping.
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Dude, it literally works, 2 guys get camped. All gens are done. Both survivors who escaped depip cuz the only thing they did is doing gens. Think about it. its like with an afk Wraith. U dont get any points. Its so stupid. The killer gets 28k points at the end, the both camped get like 5k and the both who escaped get 10k. Its fcking stupid. I won't discuss with this community, its such a waste of time. We all just quit this game.
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28k points from camping? Mathematically impossible.
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Yeah, gonna be real with ya mate, nobody cares if you stay or leave. If you wanna leave, go.
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He had 28k last match, camped 2 of us and then slugged the last one. Got 2 Gens in this time. Amazing game
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In 240 seconds you only got two gens? Did the guys he camped suicide on the hook or something?
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only a 2 man party, told my mate to do gens, but he got camped after me. the other mates just waited next to the hook and did nothing ^^
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And no, we both didn't suicide. We gave them time but they didn't understand
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Well, duh, when you get teammates like that, you're gonna get crushed. Happens to my SWF too.
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Yea cool, thank u for that great answer, but getting camped 3 times in a row doesn't feel like fun ^^. Its just a waste of time. Getting camped over and over again. Most of the killers don't even regret it or something. One of my friends literally gets camped every match. Really every single match. He just depips everytime and gets like 2-5k Bloodpoints. Its just not fair. No one understands it. They say just do gens. Nice, still a depip and around 10k bloodpoints, amazing. Destrike doesnt help cuz they just wait till its over. So ######### should we do then???
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- Rush gens when someone is being camped.
- Hide when the killer comes around, so you don't get camped.
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Its stupid. It doesnt work. That was what i meant. Its stupid to discuss with this community, i am just gonna quit
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actually, they've said that they want camping to be a bad strategy, and if they believe camping is not actually a bad strategy, they will work to change it
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It works for me and every survivor who tries it. Maybe you're just too new and facing killers who are also too new (which would explain all the camping).
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"too new". Rank 1 survivor. Rank 1-4 killers. everyone camps
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Not possible. I'm sorry, but your story doesn't add up. If killers camp, they get very few points and depip, yet you claim they got 28k and are high ranked.
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Yea okey, dont believe me. Like i said, a waste of time to discuss with this community ^^
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I get that you're frustrated, and I am sorry you're not having fun. We can only go by what you are telling us here though, and the idea that every game is a facecamp-fest does not gel with the normal experience of playing this game at higher ranks.
Right here, you say that your other two teammates were -- I'm guessing from your phrasing -- swarming the hook. Any savvy killer is not gonna leave the hook if they know other people are right there in the area. This sounds like bad teammates sandbagging you, more than anything else.
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I've been here long enough to know what you describe is not possible. If you're constantly depipping as well, how are you still rank 1?
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I honestly can't really comment on people that claim to find a "camper" every match or two. Because I myself at red ranks only find like one out of twenty games a genuiouly malicious camper. In every other case its just the killer seeing scratch marks, or other overconfident survivors screaming "Chase me" with their flashlights or spam-vaulting, etc. In which case I am not mad at the camper, but instead mad at the survivor, because they don't punish it.
If I see someone claim to find campers that often I either I assume:
1) Entitled survivor main that purposely exegerates to get killers nerfed, or
2) Low rank survivors.
At high ranks camping just simply doesn't pay off, especially with the Borrowed Time meta. And if someone is just doing it for their personal amusement, they will depip very quickly as camping is heavily punished (both directly, and indirectly) by the ranking system.
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I am not that low rank tbh (although I'm kinda convinced ranking doesn't mean more than experience right now, so it's good that they're changing it), but I run into a camper maybe once out of every 3 or 4 games.
It's not exactly ineffective. It's probably hella ineffective against people who live and breathe dbd, but spoiler...that's not actually everyone, and it's certainly not everyone who gets into red ranks in the current system.
I feel like:
- a) someone who's trolling you in game - via perfectly legal game mechanics - maybe gets more out of the game than you do when you're in that situation, and that's sort of an issue (since you're a captive audience, lol)
- b) people still earn more bloodpoints than the enemy team for this (granted not collectively, which should not be dismissed)
- c) killers sometimes do it because there's not something more fun and more advantageous that they feel they could be doing
And I don't really know what to do about all that. Should killers get more bloodpoints so they don't feel cheated and penalised and angry when people escape? Should killers get less bloodpoints to discourage this kind of behaviour? Do bloodpoints have any affect at all?
Should there be changes to the hooking system to discourage camping (e.g killers can't stay close, or the entity takes possession, or the survivor is moved to a different location, etc)? Should there be perks developed and added instead that discourage this? Should it just remain as something (pretty imaginable) that a killer would do?
Do killers feel...mis-matched and disadvantaged too much that results in this behaviour? Is that a legitimate concern? How can actual camping and "camping" be managed individually? How can survivors come away without feeling cheated?
I don't really have answers, but clearly the borrowed time/decisive strike meta exists and it exists to fill a need. Those perks have a long history of being tweaked and growing with the game. Is it just that the current incarnations aren't quite right or is it a real flaw in the game that needs to be addressed?
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Borrowed time being nerfed and changed (same thing) has not helped the camping situation at all.
Camping is flat-out bad behavior and is a cheep tactic just like slugging. (never picking up a survivor). This game's had 4 years to address this. With no results. I guess players just get mad and find other games to play. It is unfortunate.
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Regular Camper here, If done correctly Camping can be used to net you 32.000 bps.
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I believe you! I am a red rank survivor and although face camping in red ranks is pretty rare, I see proxy camping and tunneling in every single match. I have not escaped a match in 2 days, probably 20 matches and have not deranked because I am pipping just no escaping. Generally because at least the first 2 survs hooked are tunneled out of the game w/ 5k and then me and the other guy spend 15-20 min workng on gens at a snails pace because we do not want to be tunneled out of the game. If there are too many gens to do, it becomes who can hide better and make it a hatch race. I wish I could DC myself back to rank 10 or higher where this kind of hard, sweaty behavior was not nearly as common. But unfortunately I am just stuck playing games until I am pissed enough to turn it off for the night. Hope springs eternal I guess though, because I will turn it on the next day all hopeful that I will have at least 1 good match. Maybe tomorrow will be better.
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They want to discourage camping. So like emblem/bp rewards/penalties probs.
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Take care! May you find better times elsewhere!
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O look another survivor threatening to quit to get their way
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With offerings and BBQ, I think campers can get it. Correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't know.
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Then stop discussing.
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Ive never threatened to quit to get my way or for any reason
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Talk about the pot calling the kettle black
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Camping is 100% intended gameplay. Dbd = camping and camping = dbd. If you don't like it, you should try another video game, seriously.
When I first started playing this game, many many game hours ago, this forum had complaints about how toxic Looping is.
Putting that into perspective, it's really clear to me that other players like OP need to better understand what they sign up for before committing time and skill into a game like this, which is primarily comprised of hiding, seeking, camping, tunneling, genrushing, and bodyblocking.
Personally, I hate bodyblocking between survivors. Makes no sense that I can't shove past a toxic survivor trying to hold me for the Killer.
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