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Killer Adept Achievements Need Change

As for the Survivor Adept achievements, you need to use the Survivor's 3 original perks and escape, correct? Why is this not the same for killer with killing all 4 Survivors? The Survivor Adept Achievements are way more easier than the Killer Adept ones. You don't need a merciless game as Survivor to get the Achievement, so why do you need to with Killer? If the 3 perks on Killer weren't hard enough, you have to make sure you literally have a PERFECT game with not the best perks. People have literally been de-ranking just to get Low-Rank Survivors and get the achievement. If you fixed the Killer Adept Achievements into just killing all 4 Survivors instead of Merciless, there wouldn't be as much of a reason to de-rank. I really think there should be consistency with the Adept Achievements and not have the Killer ones be harder than the Survivor ones. (Upvote if you agree!)

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  • EmpireWinner
    EmpireWinner Member Posts: 1,054

    Agreed, I have been trying to get adept bubba, games went perfect, all kills and lasted a fair amount and only to find out I get ruthless in all of them. It sucks.

  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    Getting an Adept for an instadown Killer in high ranks is hell because you are basically an M1 Killer. Billy and Oni are hit the hardest by this because they cannot use their powers like they should.

  • LastShoe
    LastShoe Member Posts: 1,183
  • APoipleTurtle
    APoipleTurtle Member Posts: 1,274

    This all stems back to a wording issue on these achievements.

    -Survivors have only ever had to "escape with X while using their three personal perks".

    -Killers have always had to achieve "merciless victory with their three personal perks".

    The problem is that the definition of a "merciless victory" has changed. Where it used to just mean the killer successfully sacrificed all four survivors, it now means the killer has to double-pip (which is roughly equivalent to earning 4 iridescent emblems in one match).

    I believe for them to rework these achievements would require doing some extensive coordination with Steam, Microsoft, Sony, etc, which will all have varying degrees of difficulty. As an alternative, it might be easier for them to simply change the victory definitions:

    *Make "Merciless Killer" a post-match bonus earned for sacrificing (not just killing) four survivors in one Trial. Then replace it's former double-pip victory condition with a new title (maybe like "Devout Disciple" or something cheesily evil-sounding). Killers' would get their old Adept requirements back without utterly breaking these achievements (or the game itself, hopefully).

  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    You're right, but she's not really an instadown Killer. She still has to break the Survivor with her power. I was only looking at Killers with an attack that would instantly down a Survivor from the start.

  • bm33
    bm33 Member Posts: 8,274

    I could be totally wrong but I saw somewhere the Devs consider a 2k a win by the Killer and an escape a win by a Survivor. If that's the case then to be fair with the Survivor Adept being their escape win the Killer Adept should be the 2k win.


    They could make it be killer needs 4k and an emblem in each category (should atleast get bronze in each if getting 4k). But they should also adjust the Survivor one to them needing an emblem in each category and escaping so they can't just hide the whole match and earn a trophy.

  • If Adept Killer should be as easy as Survivor's Adept Achivements then it should be like Sacrifice 2 Survivors in a match.

    I dont know if we will see changes to this Steam, is stringy (not impossible tho) about Achivements.

    I have them all ofc, but I still think getting Killer Adept is bs.

    Oh and not forget 'From the Void She Kills' which is impossible to do without the right addons atm.

  • ImColtina
    ImColtina Member Posts: 24

    If you agree, vote up so BHVR is more likely to look at it and make the change.

  • ImColtina
    ImColtina Member Posts: 24

    If you agree, vote up so BHVR is more likely to look at it and make the change.

  • ImColtina
    ImColtina Member Posts: 24

    If you agree, vote up so BHVR is more likely to look at it and make the change.

  • RebelRose
    RebelRose Member Posts: 52

    Unfortunately they cant change achievememts unless they are impossible to get because microsoft amd sony dont like it when devs change achievements the best they can do is change how the game views a merciless victory

    On yhe bright side we are getting a new matchmaking system so maybe with the new system getting merciless will be easier

    If they could change achievements id also want them to make it so survivors have to go out the gates in order to get adept cause the hatch is kind of a cheap way to do it

  • EmpireWinner
    EmpireWinner Member Posts: 1,054

    finaly got adept :D

  • Dr_Loomis
    Dr_Loomis Member Posts: 3,703

    I totally agree.

    They need to be changed.

    There are just too many conditions needed to get a Killer Adept, and I speak as someone who has all but Pyramid Head (he's going to be fun...).

    Anyway, the general rule really should be play as a killer, with their 3 unique perks, get 4 kills by any means = Adept.

    They should waiver the Merciless rule in regards to the achievement. Maybe give a large Bloodpoints bonus for gaining a Merciless.