is NOED ever going to be removed?
NOED is by far the worst perk in the game and any killer who uses it is just so bad, you shouldn't be able to win because you couldn't confirm a kill the whole match. Survivors shouldn't be punished for actually doing a good job and getting to end game - will it ever be removed or changed?
also any killer mains who reply to this defending NOED your comment is being overlooked I don't associate with negative vibes
TOO LATE the negative energy has entered the thread
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Positive vibes and unpopular opinion:
Not all perks are equally strong, but none are broken
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Do bones
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So you don't want to discuss and you want an echo chamber.
If you're not going to listen to people put down any explanation of why no one escapes death may not be that bad then you don't want to discuss this you want to just have a bunch of people affirm your bias.
Is a little idea if you want that just discuss it between your friends
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Just do bones, its not hard. There's many perks in the game with the same nature as NOED. If survivors shouldn't be punished for doing a good job, then doing bones should be associated with "doing a good job."
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The day they ever touch NOED is the day DS also gets a fat nerf.
I'm not okay with either or.
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@BigBrainMegMain I never run DS but it isn't bad as it prevents tunnelling which is a huge problem in the game - the only counter argument to this would lit be bad killers piping up again
also to people saying 'do bones' I only play solo it's a lot harder than you think to clear 5 totems & do gens esp when most the time I get rough teams, or someone disconnects etc but yeah do bones and ignore everything else
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As soon as you cleanse all the totems, yes.
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@Volfawott where did I say I want to have a debate about this? I said will it be changed or removed I've not asked for peoples opinion on the perk itself. I know a lot of people agree with me, it's only the killers who can't confirm kills who don't and some of them are really outing themselves in this thread hahaha
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Do...bones...
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"noed is bad, unfair and should be removed... but if you will give me any reasonable argument why it isn't you are stupid and i don't like you.
That is what i read...
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So everything Killers do to win: bad. Everything survivors do to win, good.
Got it.
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This forum really needs downvote back.
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You do know that is one of the most entitled things I've ever heard.
They have been survivor mains on this forum who have repeatedly stated they don't have a problem with it.
Also without watching the game play of every single person in the entire player base which uses the perk you have no right to determine whether someone has enough skill to get killed or not if they use it.
By that logic anybody who uses any endgame perk is a no skilled champ who can't get kills.
Rancor
Blood warden
Remember me
All of these will fall into that bubble.
However someone who means killer can also say anybody who uses an exhaustion perk is a bad survivor who can't win a chase.
That is still incredibly ignorant logic.
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I can confirm NOED will be removed when the survivor objective is to do 8 gens in order to escape.
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Noed is removed when the survivors do totems.
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The only change I want for NOED is for it to expose survivors the moment the gens are done. That's it. the fact that it comes out of nowhere everytime, just for a cheap unearned instadown is so stupid imo.
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I love how everyone always say ,,everyonr who uses NOED is bad and only won because of the perk"
It only gives you a insta ko hit you still have to chase and hit them bois. Just because we might get 1-2 downs with it, it doesnt mean we are bad or only won because of that.
Also you could just do totem.
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No it wont. Devs rightly believe its fine, so there is no reason to change it. Here, thats your answer. (survivor main btw)
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@Volfawott you really sat and wrote an essay for this one huh, you sound really defensive you deffo slot the perk in with every killer you play. Those other perks are perfectly fine as they still give the survivor a chance, to insta down someone end game when there's barely any pallets left is a joker
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Ds is by far the worst perk in the game and any survivor who uses it is just so bad, you shouldn't be able to win because you couldn't loop the killer. Killers shouldn't be punished for actually doing a good job and getting hooks - will it ever be removed or changed?
also any survivor mains who reply to this defending ds your comment is being overlooked I don't associate with negative vibes.
See how dumb that sounds?
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There are many perks that are upsetting to one side or another killers hate survivor perks and survivors hate killer perks its just part of the game. In my mind most of the time if the killer can lose the game by limiting their perks to 3 for the whole game in return for cutting their losses a bit at the end its fine. It's not something that everyone enjoys but they likely will be shooting themselves in the foot just to run noed and get half the kills they could have had without it. If you dislike noed why not give up 1 of your teams 16 perk slots to use small game or detectives hunch, bring a map with totem detection abilities or just straight up check common totem spawns to deny the killer the perk they shot themselves in the foot for.
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Let's play a game. Find the difference.
NOED is by far the worst perk in the game and any killer who uses it is just so bad, you shouldn't be able to win because you couldn't confirm a kill the whole match. Survivors shouldn't be punished for actually doing a good job and getting to end game - will it ever be removed or changed?
Dead hard,DS,unbreakable,for the people,BT,adrenaline are by far the worst perks in the game and any survivor who uses it is just so bad, you shouldn't be able to win because you did a mistake and then press a button to fix it during the whole match. Killers shouldn't be punished for actually doing a good job and killing survivors - will these ever be removed or changed?
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Bones are fwends
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When is DS gonna be removed. Any survivor who uses DS is just bad and has no strategy. The killer shouldn't be punished for doing his job, killing people.
See I can do it as well your not special. They won't remove noed and they won't remove DS. So what do we do? We stop bitching and start playing the game and developing new strats. Just do bones man.
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Rancor is literally an instadown and a mori rolled into one. For obsession in question it could be worse than that no one escapes death in fact.
Also who cares if I run perk or don't, it doesn't change a single one of my points. In fact you blindly assuming my playstyle proves my point.
However did you just try to use the fact that I might use a perk as a way to discredit my argument. Darling, I don't even know what to say to that level of ignorance.
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Cleanse totems = no Noed.
Survivor = naw I'm about to gen rush then teabag the Killer near the exit gate.
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I haven’t used NOED since it was an archive challenge but it that hard to do bones. And the “i play solo so i dont have time for totems is BS. I play solon and i rarely see NOED
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I hope NOED gets changed - back to it's original state.
Permanent instadowns after the last gen is completed. That'd give you something to complain about.
As is you can just cleanse 1 totem after the last gen or cleanse 5 before it and suddenly the Killer played the game with 3 perks.
Or you can just leave through the very openable Exit Gate - it's not like the Killer can pressure both gates at the same time, assuming all four Survivors are alive. Just don't crowd together after the last gen and NOED shouldn't be "giving" them anything more than a 1 or 2k.
Current NOED, like Unbreakable, is a perfectly fine perk that has it's strength balanced by it's limited versatility and it's ability to be countered.
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Nah. Do bones.
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Whenever I vs a killer with NOED they usually only get 1 down out of it. For going the entire match with 3 perks, and the possibility of it not even activating due to survivors cleansing dull totems, it doesn't seem very good.
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It won't get deleted, lol
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As a survivor main it may suck to see NOED pop up or being made the first victim of NOED, but if you know you're still going to gain pip because you were doing gens, being altruistic, and evasive throughout the trial then you won't have too much worry about, but I would prefer to stay nearby the exit gate, instead of being made the first victim of NOED.
As a part time killer I also get 4Ks without the aid of NOED. I only use NOED with deathslinger. For me that pair is a nice counter with survivors who prefer to stay at the exit gate to teabag repeatedly and doing gestures instead of taking their leave and ending the match when they have every chance to.
It's like saying this, "If you don't want to leave the match and take your victory, then it seems like you want to stay here."
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As i know BHVR, they will remove it, but NOED isnt that bad, you cant even activate that ######### sometimes, so stop crying and go do some totems
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Ned gives the killer an opportunity to punish bad gameplay when because they're all running multiple second chance perks and have gotten too overconfident because they're accustomed to their training wheels.
Noed is a great counter to survivors who unhook in your face at the very end because they know they have borrowed time and decisive strike, and possibly more.
When the exit gate is open the killer has very few options and survivors become exceedingly toxic. The killers objective remains the same, but the survivors no longer have anything to do, so all pressure is lost.
Noed replaced the pressure, and reminds them that if they had only taken a few moments to cleanse totems they wouldn't be in this predicament.
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Ok in your opinion noed reward bad killer that mean you think DS, unbreakable, BT , delivrance and adrenaline (work when you are hook) should reward bad suvivor or its fine for the survivor to have those bad play rewarded because you main survivor
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Or.. We could always cleanse the totems.
Use small game perk or a map.
Or ya know.. Every survivor for themselves.
>Survivor main
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Isn't there a loading screen quote that says "Do bones"?
Take that advice and NOED won't be a problem and if you fail to cleanse all totems than guess what? GTFO OF THE TRIAL AND STOP TRYING TO BE A HERO AND SAVE EVERYBODY!!!
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Who killed you and now you're mad
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The funny thing is, if you’re a good survivor team you will remove it if it’s there.
The mere existence of NOED gives a reason to do totems. And lots of the games i’m in I run inner strength so I rarely see NOED.
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You're saying there are a lot of bad killers outing themselves. I just think you're a bad survivor outing yourself
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Won't be removed. At most I can see them removing the haste effect but even that I highly doubt
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I'm a survivor main, cause my wifi doesnt agree with me when I play killer. Tons of lag with a 99% chance of "get better wifi idiot" messages. I see nothing wrong with NOED. It gives a sense of urgency to us survivors once its activated if we didnt find and break the totem beforehand.
So we either try to escape while avoiding killer, or one searches for it while everyone distracts.
On the good days where I can play killer, I dont use NOED anyway. I still get enough lag to know I wont get everyone even if I use it.
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Well Jeffrey has got the awnser for you! (And before you go on about you being a solo player, so am I. Run Small Game and do all the totems)
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You said it yourself you got punish for not doing bones and you finish a gen in front of the killer in all honesty you play really well but what is an extra 14 sec to do a totem in that scenario its not much your game was already 10 minute long doing 1 more totem could have save all of you because no way the killer can stop 3 survivor opening the exit gate whitout noed or a instat down perk/addon
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Knowing when a killer is using NOED is pretty easy to spot. They're typically really bad, easily juked, etc... Very rarely, if ever do good killers run it. So when you come across a killer like that, do totems.
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LFMAOOO
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If it's such a bad perk, then why do you wanna nerf it? Just do totems and boom, you get rid of NOED. Other Perks use the instadown mechanic and happen at end game, so why not nerf or remove those? It just sounds like you don't like it because you don't know how to counter it
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The best piece of advice I could give is:
watch how the killer plays while they chase. If they never pressure gens and are not trying to control the flow of the match then it's fairly obvious they have noed. You can tell the difference in the way people play; that comes with time played. It is unfortunate when you solo queue and get rekt because nobody does totems, but, it be like that sometimes.
"Rush them gens boi" - NoEd (probably)
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Saw this and I have to share
If they have issue I deserve it but this is so funny
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