Counter to Rancor?

@projecteulogy said:

@PigMainBigBrain said:

@projecteulogy said:
Not Sole Survivor.

I can't seem to find any counter to it. At all. With the exception of SS... And telling anyone to run this trash perk is like telling a Wraith or Mikey to run Distressing...(unless you're purely farming BP)

It took them how long for Calm Spirit to help counter The Doctor... but.. I'm sure I'm going to regret asking any type of questions regardless of my playtime. I feel like the dev is constantly kicking Solo players in the nads while doing nothing to SWF as both Killers and Solo players have mostly crappy games when paired against SWFs(the sandbagging etc)

The counter to ranchor is to get the hell out...immediately. Don't dance around at the gates, don't go back looking for boxes, when the gates open leave. Counter it the same way you counter noED...LEAVE!

cant leave with 4 gens left to be done.

When the gen is popped, im a sitting duck for 3 seconds. downed and hooked then camped and/or tunneled OR i'm slugged. Then if all gens are powered lol rip. There's so much aura reading now that in combo with Rancor makes it beyond brutal. If i get hooked after seeing i'm the obsession and rancor, i hook suicide. There's no fun to be had. Being on the ground or on the hook the whole time nets no points.

Now... if BHVR majorly boosted struggling and gave points for distance crawled i'd be less bitter.

Can we get a "Crawled x MILES" achievement? lol I would have that in a day

Its no different than if they had bitter murmur if you're talking about the aura half of the perk. Best way to counter it is the same way you counter the mori half of it....run. Get out, hide. Its only 3 seconds. You make your choice, either get up and move and live. Or mope around in the same position and die. If you're getting slugged, you can always run bills perk. And like someone said above, if you're the obsession every round because you're running obsession perks....just stop running them so often. Obsession perks on both survivor and killer are insanely risky to use. And with Ranchor you're feeding free information to the survivor for the equivalent of a weaker bitter murmur with a mori attached.

Hope is counter to Rancor.
small game is counter to Noed.

Calm down, if you prepare, they cannot get you.

Most of my obsession died because they tried opening the exit gate. Wait til every killer have this perk  8-)

Omg imagine billy coming your way 

Pretty convinced none of the people terrified of rancor have actually played a killer with it.

Already I see OoOs are learning not to piss around at the Gates. I mostly just catch the odd one on their run to the doors (although they've mostly been dead by the time the Gates open anyway).

Stop panicking people - play some games and you'll see it's no big deal.

Leave as soon as you can. Rancor won't be much use until then anyway. In other words, actually fear the Killer.

When you're not the obsession? Hide after every gen.

When you're the obsession? See where the killer is going and hide after every gen. Let someone else open the gate/find the hatch if your teammates are bad.

It's not BBQC where they can see exactly where you're going. It's like a half-baked Doctor scream notification. Use a stealth perk or two and you'll be fine.

@Jack11803 said:
When you have no obsession perk but still got rancor.

FEELSBADMAN

Bad RNG. Someone has to be the obsession.

@Jack11803 said:

@Orion said:

@Jack11803 said:
When you have no obsession perk but still got rancor.

FEELSBADMAN

Bad RNG. Someone has to be the obsession.

When it’s 3 games in a row.

FEELSREALLYBADMAN

Play Killer. You can't be the obsession then.

Thanks for all the advises, although they were obvious. It saddens to see how quick people get upset if they do not get catered for enough.

This perk is situational and people complain too that it works while the killer carries them, because they also want to relate it to the reverse bear traps for no reason.

Sometimes I think killers and their perks shall be anything but dangerous, even when they become dangerous only under certain conditions.

@Jack11803 said:

@Orion said:

@Jack11803 said:

@Orion said:

@Jack11803 said:
When you have no obsession perk but still got rancor.

FEELSBADMAN

Bad RNG. Someone has to be the obsession.

When it’s 3 games in a row.

FEELSREALLYBADMAN

Play Killer. You can't be the obsession then.

Honestly, I’ve used this reasoning to play killer on PS4; in that, I can’t lose progress from a killer closing app like a ######### if I’m killer

On PC I had to deal with an Obsession who DC'd just as I was trying to use Rancor's Mori on his ass. It's such a cool animation, I dunno why Survivors DC.

Saving pallets might be viable when in SWF. Body blocking too.

I don't find that perk useful. At all. I'd rather take bitter murmur or bbq. And there is a counter, it says clearly in a perk description = as an obsession you see the killer. When the last gen is done just run the opposite way.

Orion said:

@Jack11803 said:

@Orion said:

@Jack11803 said:

@Orion said:

@Jack11803 said:
When you have no obsession perk but still got rancor.

FEELSBADMAN

Bad RNG. Someone has to be the obsession.

When it’s 3 games in a row.

FEELSREALLYBADMAN

Play Killer. You can't be the obsession then.

Honestly, I’ve used this reasoning to play killer on PS4; in that, I can’t lose progress from a killer closing app like a ######### if I’m killer

On PC I had to deal with an Obsession who DC'd just as I was trying to use Rancor's Mori on his ass. It's such a cool animation, I dunno why Survivors DC.

I had two survivors left in the game. And I found my obsession but he hasn’t been hooked the entire game. I was going to hook him but I dropped him after the other survivor finish last gen. He dc’d because I was going to mori him but I realized after the game that I didn’t use rancor it was dying light 😂😂😂. So I wouldn’t even be able to have mori him in the first place. 

Let's think about the actual requirement for rancor... all gens need to be completed right?... this means the killer may have what? Maybe 25 seconds to find the obsession?... 1 out of 4 possible survivors still being alive... if all are alive that's a 25% chance of running into them at the end game if at all.. the end game has been boring and BS for more then 2 yrs now... if all are alive and ya have 1 on a hook what's the killers point in leaving the hook? With rancor you have some what of reason now since its insta death.. it's some what of a counter to DS as well.. maybe just maybe the devs could make DS now allow the obsession only to get off the killers shoulder because 4DS is still too strong...

@PigMainBigBrain said:

@projecteulogy said:
Not Sole Survivor.

I can't seem to find any counter to it. At all. With the exception of SS... And telling anyone to run this trash perk is like telling a Wraith or Mikey to run Distressing...(unless you're purely farming BP)

It took them how long for Calm Spirit to help counter The Doctor... but.. I'm sure I'm going to regret asking any type of questions regardless of my playtime. I feel like the dev is constantly kicking Solo players in the nads while doing nothing to SWF as both Killers and Solo players have mostly crappy games when paired against SWFs(the sandbagging etc)

The counter to rancor is to get the hell out...immediately. Don't dance around at the gates, don't go back looking for boxes, when the gates open leave. Counter it the same way you counter noED...LEAVE!

NOED can be broken and even if you are hooked you can be saved. Rancor cannot be broken, reveals everyone for 3 seconds and allows you to be moried instantly.

I never use obsession perks and for the most part some random player using D-strike will get it, but I have had games where I was never even seen until the VERY END of the game and instantly got moried because I randomly got selected for obsession. I do feel like it seems unfair if you become the obsession without having used any obsession perks.

I don't think the perk is over powered just a very anti-climatic/un-fun thing to have happen to you during a match. Something that can instantly kill you simply because the game chose you as obsession. Its different if you bought d-strike in and gambled with the possibility.

Uhh.. exhaustion add-ons counter exhaustion perks, but I get not everyone has those. Coulrophobia and Sloppy Butcher counter SC pretty hard as does Nurse's.

I'll give you that DS doesn't really have a (reasonable) counter though. "Don't pick up the survivor" is not a counter just like "don't get found" isn't a counter. That's why they're nerfing it someones soon.

How are the things listed not counters? What do you think a counter is?

@lyric said:
BigBlackMori said:

@lyric said:

DeadByFlashlight said:

@lyric said:

I’ve been noticing some killers leave the obsession down like a fool and never pick them up because they are running rancor and don’t want to waste it , lol that’s supposed to be a last line of defense at the end game, I don’t understand why they would let the game get to that point to use one perk and totally ignore the main objective



Thats what I have done pre-patch too. Usually its better to slugg the DS instead of losing momentum

No way man you’re way better off to try to finish everyone before the gens are done, when you leave someone down you’re offering second chances you don’t have as a killer, leaving the ds down and letting them get back up everytime is the equivalent of getting ds and them getting away everytime you catch them , you might as well give them a chance to waste it and hook them to put more pressure on the survivors.

You are, again, wrong. Most Killers slug or ignore obsessions because moe than likel they're using DS. Sometimes I just get the DS out of the way if i'm not using rancor, buy if I am i just ignore or leave them on the ground. i can always just kill them later.

But my point is that leaving them down is just like DS because they get back up and get away again and you didn’t even make them waste it and didn’t hook anyone, literally you are wasting time with a chase if that’s how you’re ending it because of a perk that can only be used once.

In that you are mistaken.

While the hook would be preferable, downing somebody and leaving them has the same effect on the generator game as hooking somebody - somebody needs to leave a gen to pick them up again.