This game is so Survivor sided, it literally makes no sense!
The devs love to nerf any halfway-decent killer and killer perks, but it’s okay for survivors to have: Adrenaline, DS, BT, Soul Guard, Unbreakable, and the most op perk of all... SWF. Killers get called toxic for camping and tunneling But there is nothing you can do about getting he gen rushes, or not be able to catch and hook not a single survivor. The devs won’t increase gen time, the won’t touch SWF, they keep nerfing killers that are actually viable, they nerf killer perks. Like old ruin, even if they didn’t nerf it, how that compare to the survivor perks they got now. The killer meta is very weak compared to the survivor meta. What can killers do when they get gen rushed? What can killers do against SWF. What can killers do with very lackluster perks. Devs, Do you truly play your game. Can you say that the Killer is an actual Killer, or is he trying to survive against the 4 killers. I mean look at Pyramid Head’s perks compared to Cheryl’s perks. Devs, PLEASE PLAY YOUR GAME!!!
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You know, have you ever stopped to think maybe with all these complaints that you're the one that needs to improve a bit more? The game isn't perfect, but if you properly understand killer you're going to win the majority of the games you play.
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Is this a joke or is it genuine ?
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For 2 years I have played this game, I’m decent at both sides. Clearly survivors are way more favorable to this game
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Serious
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They said they're happy with where Billy is right now yet they're nerfing him a lot. That means to them that killers ideally should be weak and not balanced.
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I'm sorry, but if you were a somewhat good killer player, I doubt this would be a complaint. I'm not trying to sound mean here.
"or not be able to catch and hook not a single survivor"
If you're struggling to even hook 1 survivor in a 6 plus minute game, you may need to reevaluate your play, rather than blaming the game.
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Should you consider gen rushing a problem, or just survivors doing their job, or both?
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Yea, but if you do play both sides and have for 2 years, you'd know most Survivors aren't masters of looping talking on comms with their friends like their lives depend on Escaping as fast as possible.
Quite a lot of Survivors flat out suck. And even those that are good aren't good every game.
I agree the SWFs who do shouldn't have so much of an advantage, but they're far from everywhere. Most games as Killer you'll face a group of Solo goobers just trying to have fun, and most games quite a few of those goobers will die.
There are problems with this game, and they need solutions to be sure, but they don't ruin the overall experience IMO and ranting vaguely about perks isn't going to solve anything.
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devs want the game to be survivor sided, I'm fine with it, it's marketing.
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Hey Hulk.
They buffed killers a lot, maps are way more killerfriendly now, many strong things survivors had got nerfed or even removed...
I dont have trouble winning as killer, its more stressful then playing survivor, but in general not really harder. Said that, its FAR from beeing impossible to win.
Also keep in mind that survivor mains are usually more experienced then killer mains since they only have to learn one model and thats it. As a killer main, you have to learn 20 killers, all of them come with unique power and their peculiarities. It takes longer to master them, unless you only play one certain killer all the time
My honest suggestion: Try to improve first before complaining. Go watch strong killers on youtube. I recommand you FunGoose.
Kind regards
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I personally hardly ever deal with "gen rushing". I win the large majority of the games I play. I find I control gens pretty well.
But, to answer your questions doing gens efficiently is just survivors doing their job.
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Yes but what about perks, SWF, Gen Rushing. Yes I’m a decent on both sides, I know the ins and outs of being both a killer and survivor. Striving to be greater is all I do. But getting gen ruse should by SWF with meta perks makes it very tough. Also some survivors are really good at looping, I would’ve won if all of them were really good at looping. I’ve seen this a lot, I’m not the only one with this problem, and I’m definitely pretty good at playing this game.
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I dont know if I would say a majority. But quite a lot of games at least. Piggy, legion and myers arent considered top tier to say the least(although myers might be mid tier) but I still have pretty damn good games on them with a ton of 4ks and very few 0-1ks.
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Are you playing both survivor and killer equally? If not, you cannot see the problems survivors have.
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Other than tunneling, camping, trash teammates, the need for dlc perks, the need for learning to loop. The killers just have more major problems than survivors.
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By the way, dude, I am intersted in trying to play killer against you. If you think that this game is so survivor sided, then you should win, right? Well then, prove your points by defeating me. I will let you choose 3 teammates, since swf is so op, you should win, right?
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The thing is the devs have changed a lot of things during these four years the game exist.
If you compare the killer experience in year 1 and now then you can clearly see the devs of course care about the killer community.
Yes, nothing is perfect but they are still trying to improve the game for Both sides. So you know what I think?
I think they did a pretty good JOB so far!
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You said yourself that you're only decent at the game. If that's the case then there is lots of room for improvement. I do pretty well in red ranks as killer and I do okay in purple ranks. I don't think killers are that bad off.
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Obviously not if you are complaining that gens are going too fast, and you can't get one hook. I was a killer main, but switched to survivor because killer is too easy for me. If you are good, genrushing isn't a thing as you should have lots of pressure. Sounds to me like you should play better, if you think gen speeds are too fast. And you won't win every game, either. Just take the loss and use it as a learning experience. I'd recommend recording every game, and when its over watch it and see what needs improvement.
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Defeating me will only prove my point. What’s your point.
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So you don’t gen rushed, or go against SWF. You are telling me, you have never had all 4 survivors escape.
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No I actually havent since grey ranks. Its relatively easy to at least 2k every match.
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Then you would be decent as well. I was saying “decent” to not be cocky. There is lots a room to improve, but that goes the same with the devs.
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@GamingHulk123. Here is my developed answer.
1) Killers being under-powered. They are a lot of decent killers: Billy and Nurse, if playing correctly, are strong. Hag can be good if played correctly and Freddy is also viable. If DS and BT did not exist, the tunneled survivor would have literally 0 thing that he can do to escape. I get that 1 kill is a lost for the killer, but the question is: is it ok for one survivor to lost without being able to do anything? And before you say `do not get caught`, then send me a video of a 10 games streak with no cut and no smurf team&your not allowed to smurf. See how many times you do not get caught. And unbreakable is very situational. Also, swf is rarely a sweat squad: they are a lot of them who do not talk to each other and a lot of them are just 2 man swf. A lot of them are to altruistic. So you are fine most of the time. And before you say that the game should only be balanced around the top players, this is an arcade game, not a competitive one.
2) Killers that get called toxic: this does not show that survivors are op, just that some of them are mean.
3) Old ruin was not necessarily balanced: lag could impact your skill check, and not everyone is lucky enough to have a super computer. If you wanted to play solo or with 1 friend, most of the team would not do gens in a lot of cases. Trying to find the totem would, in 1 out of 3 cases, result in a lost due to wasting time. And balancing around pro players that can do everything perfectly is not a good idea, since this is not a competitive game but an arcade one.
4) What can I do, as the survivor, when I get facecamped by a Leatherface? Not get caught? Try to do so yourself. What can I do when I get a trash team? What can I do when the killer is a rank 1 ebony mori Billy that has the best add ons?
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@GamingHulk123 I will be the killer and you will be the survivor. If I win, then the killers are not as weak as you say. If I win as killer, it shows that you need to get better.
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But that’s to one thing, what about the others.
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No matter what’s done, someone isn’t happy. Killers are gonna cry that it’s survivor sided & survivors are gonna cry that it’s killer sided. It’s an endless cycle.
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Yes the game is 100% survivor sided. Got a 3k on disturbed ward on Friday. This was at 3 in the morning and I was extremely drunk so yea it's survivor sided.
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If you are good enough to get downs quickly, you have insane map pressure. Say you down two people. Theyre both slugged or hooked. You now have at least three people off of gens. Two incapacitated. At least one saving. To slow down genrushing you need to have pressure. If all survivors get out, thats your own fault for not having map pressure. Down people, injure people, slow down the game in any way you can as every second longer is in your favor. Use sloppy, dying light, thanatophobia, pop, ruin with surveillance, bamboozle, coulrophobia, nurses, monitor and abuse, forced penance, blood echo, discordance, mad grit, any good perks, and just slow down the game.
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Meh.
Its seems pretty even currently from what I've experienced. I rarely ever get a match were one side complete dominates the other, and of the times I have I can't say if it was more often the Survivors or Killer that has dominated.
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I'm pretty good as killer but decent as survivor. To be more on topic, they nerf survivors too. Both directly and indirectly.
For example, a lot of maps were altered such as rotten fields having been made smaller. Toolboxes were nerfed a few patches ago.
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Yeah yeah killer good survivor bad, we know it.
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Killers also have moris, can close the exit hatch, the end game timer, noed, blood warden, devour hope, pop, bbq, stbfl, and instant downing/killing add-ons. There are powerful aspects to both sides, but they are only noticeable if you play both sides.
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he is talking about 4 man did u see wima and his 4 man escpaing 400 times in a row til someone sniped with an ebony mori and billy with crack addons and still 2 man escaped?... good 4 man are almost unbeatable man, he has a point.
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Nobody sees that
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It is very survivor sided from what I've seen of both sides. I usually start playing killer and then wind down my game session by playing survivor to relax more. I halfway suck at survivor so I die more often than not (rank 16) but I often struggle in a match if there's even one red or purple rank player against me.
I would almost go as far to say this game would probably be way less toxic if the killer was replaced with an AI, then survivors could have their fun without a real human being the punching bag in the process.
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there are some rare cases of teams rushing gen's but that just means the killer isn't putting enough pressure on generators with perks or the survivors are just really good at holding down at gen's while a chase is going. The problem is there's just so many bad survivors out there that when a good team comes along people scream "gen rush".
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Personally I play survivor the most because I used to be a killer main and it was just too mindlessly easy. I win way less as survivor because I have to rely on randoms to do their job or I'm screwed. I also don't play with keys because they defeat the purpose of the objective. if you're that bad at killer to where you have trouble almost every game than you really need to work on your skills or find a new killer main that suits your play style more. I'm extremely good at looping killers in mind gaming and I still get caught 50% of the time. Killers have increasing advantages of winning a chase the longer it goes where as survivors are more likely to lose a chase unless they break it off. The trade off is if it killer stays in chase too long generators will get done. that's where knowing when to break off and went to pursue makes all the difference
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If you are complaining about games where you can’t down and hook a single survivor, this clearly indicates you just aren’t any good.
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Survivor sided??? Are you out your gd mind?? How many times was I 5 steps ahead and to the side and the killers little knife hit me? Got tunneled and camped to where i got 3k or less for the match?? Been 2 steps through a vault and hit??? Almost every match in red ranks, killers are getting 30k a match and survivors don't even come close ( that's 30k with no point offerings too). I don't even play swf most the time, so I'm at the mercy of playing blind. Survivor sided is not even close to being real
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You win every single game right?
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Yes, this game is survivor sided. Dont let buffoons tell you otherwise. However, part of the reason I play killer is for adapting to survivors, and destroying them, by making them play by MY rules, and not theirs. I live for the thrill of destroying someones best laid plan.
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It makes sense when you realize the devs suck at their own game. Nothing really surprises me anymore
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Just wait. It's only a matter of time until they nerf every single good survivor perk.
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Fantastic bait. Killers are pretty OP in this game 😂 have you played survivor solo? You lose like 99% of the time. But they swf and then the complaints start rolling in. As if 4 people shouldn’t be able to work together to beat the killer. Killer is supposed to kill all 4 every time huh? That’s a fun game.
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There is a lot of map pressure that can be applied by killers. Just because you don’t know how to do it, doesn’t mean killers need a buff. Maaaaan I would love to see people stop complaining about gen speed still after the countless hits that’s taken. Any longer staring at a progress bar only to stare at myself on a hook I think I’ll pull all my hair out. It’s not fun waiting to die for you. Nor is it fun if killers are any stronger than a lot of them are now. I’m still blown away at how the huntress’ down speed isn’t being adjusted. It’s too fast. Almost doesn’t allow mind games. There should be some longer recovery time after chucking that thing
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I don't know if you want some tips or builds to not getting gen rush next time or just wanted to rant about it. The game its a 1v4, already unbalanced, don't know what else you can expect.
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No, nobody does. But I win a very large majority of the games I play. Losses are pretty rare for me. Like I said, if you genuinely understand what you're doing you'll do just fine.
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In order to understand what i'm doing, I have to pretend 85% of the killers I can chose from don't exist?
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I have been playing online games competitively for almost 2 decades now. DBD is among the most imbalanced game I have ever seen. The imbalance is appallingly toxic for how long this game has existed. The devs are majorly neglecting the meta and state of the game.
I really like the concept, theme and characters in this game. The execution overall is okay. The polish is okay, but could use some work.
THE BALANCE IS DEPRESSINGLY AWFUL
I hardly get angry at games, but this game is rage inducing when playing killer because it is NOT EVEN CLOSE to balanced.
When I watch good killers like otz get tooled every so often by mediocre survivors, it verifies everything I experience firsthand.
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