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Im already sick of SWF and when finally the Devs realize, that this mode is a way to ez ?
don´t get me wrong, but DBD is designed for Solo players. Carried by SWF ? no thanks... it´s an ez mode. Theres no challenge for survivors and in my opinion to frustrating for killers, specially if they play on red ranks. We have the year 2020 and i think, there has to be a better way to fix this problem.
Oh i completely forgot about that: DBD is a 4 vs 1 and balance will be never happend.
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congrats genius, you have perfect summarised why every killer main under the sun hates SWF...
However you missed out one small problem...Not every single person who plays SWF is a 4 man with comms and every second chance perk under the sun, yes they do exist but they are very, very rare, i know you don't want to hear it but try getting good and finding ways to improve
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SWF in red ranks are almost always composed of two Prove Thyself users (wich spread to either do 2 or 3 ppl on one gen and rush the ######### out of it) with one or two green/purple toolboxes (usually 1 BNP), with (usually) 4 DS + 2 or more unbreakables then one get a perk for information (kindred, OoO, Dark Sense), one runs spine chill + resilience to stay injuried and rush even more gens one get a good medkit so he can be a ambulance and one get a flashlight 'cause, why not?
Then they 3 man bodyblock (when I'm playing against SWF I try to get at least 2 injuried before downing someone so I can at least have just 2 bodyblocking) or sabotage the nearest hook (sometimes).
And there we go, by the time you get your first hook, 2 gens will pop, almost always, any survivor injuried will be healty again 'cause coms. Only one will try the rescue and other 2 will sit on gens (if you get in a chase, one get the rescue, one sit on a gen and another go for the chase, who'll need to strike 2 times again and repeat all the bloody process).
Yeah, SWF is no fun at all in red ranks.
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very very rare ? no that´s not true on red rank, sry. By the way it doesn´t matter if it´s 4 man 3 man 2 man. Fact is they have an Advantage
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Ah again we just generalize SWF into deaths squads. Killer bias never gets old.
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Its true that 3-4man swf is pretty broken, but you never hear killers complain when they’re tunneling a solo team in under a few minutes with their most op add ons and moris
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SWF is not that hard to deal with. Some of you are just legitimately bad. I kill a majority of them and usually take out 2 at the very least of a good team. Not everybody you face is a try hard swf, in 2 years of maining killer I've only run into 4 or 5 of these death squad teams. But of course you didn't get a free 4k so that means SWF is broken. Yes, it is harder than a solo team, but it's not to the degree everyone paints it as. SWF isn't a boogie man that you have no chance against. You need to play better.
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those swf team are not very, very rare there a lot more common then you think because solo can be hard swf is easy mode i mean there no middle ground.
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Dismissing a problem just because it isn't a widespread one doesn't mean that the problem itself isn't severe and needs to be addressed.
Just because only 5% of survivors can be invincible gods that get to bully almost any killer they come across we should just leave it in the game? Just because only a small amount of people are literally destroying the essence of the game? (5% is just an example, I personally encounter a lot of SWF so based on my experience I feel it is at least higher in red ranks)
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The devs have already said they wont use proximity chat or remove it or penalize them. If they did then you're gonna wait a long time for lobbies. They said they were trying to buff solo survivors. Im a red rank killer. Do I get a few who wreck me? Sure. But that's to be expected. I don't expect 3 and 4ks every game. But I do usually do really well against swfs teams. I usually get a 3 and 4k and that's without tinneling and camping.
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They could do like Socom did back in the day. In Game chat (push to chat), say the survivors have walkies or some sort of communication device. when you push to chat, if the killer is in proximity, he can hear it too (direction and static sound of a walkie talkie or phone). It was great in socom.. you could chat with team, but if someone was within earshot of you, they could hear everything you were planning and pretty much know exactly where you were.
I don't see how you'd ever be able to keep people from discord, or PS Party, etc. I only solo lately. it would be nice to have in game chat. i think even with 2-3 person swfs, they might be more likely to use in-game if it means being able to communicate with the 4th player which BHVR could code to where the killer could hear.
I'm not high rank, but as a PS player, i see many teammates running same meta perks, but they are very rarely SWF when I can see their friends lists. If survivors were really concerned with chat, they'd invite me, the solo player, to their party, but I've only ever gotten 1 invite before a match and it was from the killer wanting achievements. At higher ranks they may all be SWFs, but I think many times some killers, not all killers, just assume it.
Also, when my friends are on, we die just as frequently and mostly just chat about non game stuff.. you know, just being friends.. only time conversation stops is when someone yells, 'he's got me!!' Take with a grain though, I'm way more casual than many on here.
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I’m sick of people whining about SWF. People want to play a multiplayer game with their friends. The option to play with friends brings them players and money. They aren’t getting rid of it, so stop. Just practice and get good.
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never intended on dismissing it, just simply saying that you can't nerf the 5% sweats without nerfing the other 95% who just play for fun
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Babykillers have literally ez mode against solo players since ages. Killers in general still get carried by bad servers the higher their ping is and ofc they are abusing it because they know they have an advantage. That's why so many people play Huntress, Deathslinger or Pyramid Head because they know the laggy hits are broken and busted af. Over 90% of matches only consist of potatoe survivors that don't know what they are actually doing or die early on the hook, even on high ranks. And almost the same amount of matches consist only of boring tunneling and camping killers that never had fun in their life. EU servers became the worst trash because literally almost every match I get a toxic sweaty tryhard russian killer that abuses the sh!t out of the game or someone uses ESP and whatever hacks. But all the killer morons still whining here in the forums because they don't get the 4K for free instantly after the match started which is just disgusting. Everything I mention here is just the experience of thousands of hours and by actually playing the game on both sides. The double standards and hypocrisy in this community is freaking huge and it's getting worse and worse and sadly it will never change.
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Lol, just learn to play, killers already have an easy game.Either camping hooks or using the lag to advantage. If youre losing often enough to get mad then its not because "boohoo they talk to each other" its because you're playing badly.
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Agreed. Killer is so easy right now due to how watered down red ranks are. Meanwhile solo survivor is the most miserable and depressing experience I’ve ever had in a game. It doesn’t matter how well you play or how much skill you have, you lose to some shitlord who just sits around a hook as wraith. So much fun. If by some miracle you get the gens done theres NOED to take away your victory because with the average survivors these days you literally dont have time to do totems.
No skill or effort required on the part of the killers, they just need to turn up to get the winZ
I’m convinced a lot of these players sit around a hook, tunnel, and NOED their way to victory and when they come across an actual good team who knows how to play thats when they come crying to the forums about game balance.
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Personally I love going against swf because I can test out my killers and see what I need to improve. And yes while gen rushing is not fun it is good to be able to play with your friends. SWF may need some small tweaks but theres nothing much you can do.
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Exactly this. This pretty much rounds out my post how the game is and became to. Imagine how calm, funny and satisfying DBD was in the early days, now it's only a sweaty tryhard mess.
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Man, I would love to know where these watered down red ranks are. On my region, I get nothing but swat teams. These people run full meta and loop like like gods.
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Oh rly ? ... let me guess: Survivor Main ? Loving carried by SWF ? ...np. Let me tell you something. I play DBD since 2016 both Killer and Survivor on Rank 1 and i have enough experience in this game. You cannot denial that SWF is a way to ez. In my opinion the best player experience is the Solomode. Everyone has his own opinion and i accept it but your Statement is a clap in much player´s face. So ....
SHAME ABOUT YOU
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